Talk:Turnip

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Turnips appear in Super Princess Peach, only found on the ending for 1 Coin (at least that's all I've saw). -Flipthenote 16:55, 23 January 2012 (EST)

Redundant articles

Why do we have two articles for effectively the same thing? Most of the information on the Turnip page could be merged into the Vegetable page.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.178.243.169 (talk).

Vegetable seems to cover slightly more than Turnip, but yeah, a lot of the information is shared. A merge could probably be useful... 16:03, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Giant Turnip

Anyone think we could split Giant Turnips from Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker and Super Mario Advance? --DeepFriedCabbage 11:53, August 3, 2019 (EDT)

Move Smash Bros data to "Vegetable"

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So, Peach has this move, called Vegetable (move). What projectile does it create? This wiki says turnips, and nearly everything the move creates is a turnip. but I would argue Smash Bros. own naming is correct. It consistently calls the item the move creates a "vegetable", which means they're vegetables. The data for the move "Vegetable" has no business being on "Turnip" given a consistent preference (across all games, from Melee to Ultimate) toward calling the items vegetables.

• Melee: "These vegetables, which first appeared in Super Mario Bros. 2, can be plucked from the ground and hurled at enemies. Unlike regular veggies, they often sport eyes or even faces; in fact, when Princess Peach plucks them from the ground to use as projectiles, the expressions on their faces dictate how much damage they'll do."
• Ultimate: "Of the eight types, the wrinkle-faced vegetable is the strongest. If you throw it while tapping a direction, it can do over 30% damage!

And really, of course the move called "Vegetable" is supposed to create "vegetables". If the developers and writers wanted the items to be turnips, the move would be called "Turnip". Salmancer (talk) 03:47, August 20, 2025 (EDT)

• Melee manual: "Pluck vegetables from the stage and hurl them at enemies.
• Ultimate: "Plucks a veggie while on the ground. The veggie's power depends on its mood." Salmancer (talk) 04:32, August 20, 2025 (EDT)

So, it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck but is apparently not a duck? PrincessPeachFan (talk) 07:51, August 21, 2025 (EDT)

Yes. The duck test fails to account for a very important part of fictional works: unlike the real world, where the topic is up for debate, in fiction the existence of a greater power who decides what everything is classified as is a proven fact. Its the person or people who wrote/drew/recorded/etc that media. In this case, its Nintendo! Or.. well I believe for a topic from Melee this is under HAL Laboratory's jurisdiction. Anyhow, we follow names even if they don't match the visuals. See Denture Popgun, a gun that is never seen or displayed to the point the article itself says "his alleged popgun is never shown and instead he appears to fire his dentures with his cane". According to the duck test, we should instead have an article on "Cranky's cane". But we don't because the subject has been given official identification and its clearly a Denture Popgun. In as similar vein, heavy redesigns! Sometimes something gets redesigned so thoroughly that it's only the same subject if you squint. Doesn't matter, if Nintendo makes X, redesigns it to be Y with almost no resemblance to X, but calls it X, then Y is X. The projectile for this article is identified as a "vegetable", therefore it is a vegetable. Salmancer (talk) 15:21, August 21, 2025 (EDT)

Also, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker uses "turnip". This means the word choice between games is being done with intent! The move in Super Smash Bros. is based directly on the move in Super Mario Bros. 2, whereas the move in Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker is only inspired by the move in Super Mario Bros. 2. To put both of them on the same page with no disclaimer is flattening away valuable nuance. We're supposed to be highlighting nuance like this.Salmancer (talk) 02:18, August 22, 2025 (EDT)

Rechecking, the article for Vegetable fully explains what it does. I don't see any harm in keeping the mention here because while they have been called Vegetables, their design is supposed to be the Turnips from Super Mario Bros. 2 PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:52, August 22, 2025 (EDT)

The harm is that the article for Vegetable (move) links to Turnip. That's why we have to move this article's writeup to Vegetable, then change Vegetable (move) to link to Vegetable, then make a new truncated writeup for Turnip. Salmancer (talk) 14:39, August 22, 2025 (EDT)