Talk:Mario Kart Wii/Archive 1

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Wasn't Daisy there?--Aipom_Banana_2.gif Aipom 424.png--

Good Lord, I hope not :P If she is, add her, although it may go against your conscience. Plumber

What are you talking about, Plumber? Anyway, Wikipedia didn't say Daisy was in the game. However, that might just be an error. I'll keep checking back. In the meantime, I won't put her on the page. My Bloody Valentine

I haven't seen her either, and you know I'm a Daisy fan. I think we've pretty much got all the characters.

Plumber: ....
DP: Wikipedia doesn't catch on to most info right away. That's why our SSBB article PWNs theirs.
Overall answer: Don't add her until she is actually seen in a screenshot or mentioned.Knife (talk) 23:05, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

Lol, yeah, Plumbers statement was wierd. Anyway, like I said, do not add her until we see her in a screenshot, or Nintendo says she is in it. Also, our SSBB article is WAY better. MarioWiki pwns Wikipedia :P My Bloody Valentine

"Excuse me princess", but plumber's a hatin' n00b. User:Fixitup

I found an image of the logo alone recently and decided to update the image we used for the logo. Then I uploaded a higher resolution image of Mario & Luigi playing the Wii (check the bottom of the article). My problem is that the logo isn't showing up in it's updated form, but rather it shows the low-resolution image of Mario and Luigi. Anyone know how to fix this? Stumpers! 08:28, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Yes. Ctrl+F5, or revisiting the website. This always happens when you upload newer versions of files. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 08:42, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
Thanks! Stumpers! 14:17, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

Baby Mario and Luigi

Man,I hate those two in this game,and I wish they didn't exist.F gLarrynana.gif

But think of it this way. Nintendo tends to balance out the distribution of lightweight and heavyweight characters. The inclusion of the babies could indicate the inclusion of two very cool heavyweights. You never know. Yeah, yeah... I know it'll probably just be Petey Piranha and King Boo, but whatever. Stumpers!

Just a reminder, post stuff like this on the forum, not talk pages. -- Sir Grodus


Why do people keep on adding Boo to the playable character list? That might as well have been King Boo! I am sure that Boo will stay as an item, it wouldnt make any sence if they replaced the almighty King Boo with just a simple Boo as a playable character...

Why don't we post a "Boo/King Boo" in its place? Stumpers!
I hate Wikipedia. They are the main target for vandalism, which does terrors for us. They still haven't removed Boo nor King Boo yet, so, I suppose they are both true. My Bloody Valentine Why must people vandalize :(
There's no crown. So its definitely a normal Boo. So either Boo isnt an item anymore, or King Boo takes over the role of item.--310898920470920674988d.gif 18:19, 15 October 2007 (EDT)

Wario's Mines

I was just wondering where we got the name for this course. I'm not saying that someone just made it up, but I've seen that happen before, so I'm just double checking! Stumpers! (please don't be mad!)

Baby Luigi?

How do we know he's in the game?

The MissingLinkBowser 2.PNG I saw Baby Mario, but not Baby Luigi.

Baby Luigi has been on the Wikipedia list for about a Month now, probably longer, actually. That's how I know, at least. My Bloody Valentine

I wonder how they know he's in the game?

The MissingLinkBowser 2.PNG Also I havn't seen any comfirm for Koopa.

Waluigi And Wario

Waluigi's and Wario's kart look almost the same, unless waluigis in warios kart.

Master Crash

nope. Waluigi's has that wierd "L" on it. Max2 (talk)

That is most likely Waluigi in Wario's kart, because the only difference is the Emblem, which is probably using the Emblem system like in MKDS... ~Uniju(T-C-E)

I dont know

This game looks great but something tells me it is going to get low score.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drybones2 (talk).

Use the forum for statements like this, please. Talk pages are for discussion about the article, not the game itself. YELLOWYOSHI398

Baby Luigi

Is baby Luigi confirmed for this game, because he is in the list of playable characters. Javier12345 Yes, there were new screenshots that showed him. User:Fixitup

Baby Mario Meadows

Can someone tell me what grounds the conjecture was made on? If it's just personal opinion, it should be changed to something like, "Unnamed Farm Course". Stumpers! 01:30, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Someone can tell me where did you find Luigi circuit and Dk pass within reappearing courses? ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png

Don't know how long ago you posted that, but I believe I found those in the first video, shown at e3 2007. Sorry if I came across as rude, Coin. Stumpers! 21:57, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
Don't worry Stumpers, I saw the proof at some websites, altought they could be beta screens, who knows? the game is so far from being revealed

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png keep with the work.

Mario Circuit and the "Unnamed town"

Look closely at the pictures of Mario Circuit and the unnamed town. They are closely the same, which leads me to believe that the "unnamed town" is just anothe part of Mario Circuit. King Boo, you're a Mario Kart Wii

About the old tracks in MKW...

Isn't there a link, a video, images or something where you can confirm the old tracks in the game or new tracks like Baby Luigi's track?

Some old courses will appear, and as many of them have been seen trough screenshots, someone can consider that all of former tracks will appear (or perhaps some known classic tracks seen in Mario Kart DS), however, we need more information to check it out. That baby luigi's course is a false info, who is putting that? ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png I need a proof, and that is its source.

Deleted Tracks

There were nearly twenty reappearing courses that were posted a few weeks ago, including Donut Plains 1 and Mario Circuit 1, but nearly half of them were deleted a few days later. Does anyone know why?

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I honestly have no idea, but it usually has to do with lack of proof when a game hasn't been released. If you have proof that those courses are in there, please post it along with a re-post of the deleted articles. Generally, if you've found something that wasn't in a mainstream source (, you'll want to site it to save yourself a headache later. Stumpers! 23:23, 6 December 2007 (EST)


Ok, a few weeks ago it said the Koopalings were in it, it also said that dry bones and daisy and goomba were in it? Who said that stuff!

Whom even put should show some soures but I think it might be a rumor. (Koopaling in Mario Kart wii I doubt it!) But there a chance for Daisy to appear and maybe Dry bones (Boo partner is Dry bones so maybe....) Princess Grapes Butterfly 16:27, 2 February 2008 (EST)

Release Date

is that releasing date on NA confirmed? ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png it doesn't note a reference or source on it. maybe that's not true then... (by the way, wikipedia puts the releasing date as March 15 -although this neither shows a source or reference on it-).

On wikipedia they changed it back to April 30. I just checked (Is it true that the Mii is playable?) Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:59, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Shroom Ridge?

OK, I've clicked on the link (reference 5, [1]) and I think I've seen a track that looks like Shroom Bridge (middle picture in 2nd row of the screenshot gallery)! What do you think? --PaperStriker 04:24, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Duplicate Images

I see that we have some problems about duplicate images, specialley these images...

The first row shows original pics already uploaded...

And the second row shows images recently uploaded for the MKwii article...

Then, I suggest that some duplicate images must be deleted and others kept... ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png

I suggest about deleting these images...

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png

Here's my image policy.

  • 1. If it's character art, use it only once on the same page.
  • 2. If you find a good image, save it as PNG, NOT jpg.
  • 3. Editing site logos out is easy and quick.
  • 4. If an existing image is a different file type, and you have a better version, upload the better image and replace the previous one.
  • 5. If item artwork is reused for a game, it is ok to display it, character artwork however, is not ok.
  • 6. Even if a screenshot is GOOD it can be low-quality, therefore replace it if possible.


OK, but I think already did that. anyway, thanks for those points :)

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Please only delete the Mario Kart Wii ones. The others are being used in one/two different articles. If you do that, then you can put the image that is already on two articles into MKW, the third article. It will be easier that way. Stumpers! 21:18, 21 February 2008 (EST)
OK, OK don't worry, I already did this, I've decided keep some MKWii-titled images, because they have a good quality as they could stay here. besides, the deletion list is over there, before my second signature

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New Wi-fi Information

Wi-fi information, including online rankings!FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png


where are the sourses for the heavy weight, medium weight, lokced stuff? I think someone should put them on --Blue Koop 09:06, 8 March 2008 (EST)

Wait? I just saw in the playable characters, Baby Wario, Petey, Diddy Kong, Birdo, and others. Then when I refreshed the page...they were gone. Are they confirmed or not? Toad allstar

This is stuff we should be citing for that reason: if real information is put up there that seems like fan speculation, someone's going to take it down. Attach sources, everyone! ;) Stumpers! 15:54, 18 March 2008 (EDT)


I need a source or a pix to see if she really playable! Princess Grapes Butterfly 11:36, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

She is not confirmed to be playable, sorry. Toad allstar


What is this trash about noki? is this true, is she really in the game, i need sources! --Blue Koop 19:26, 18 March 2008 (EDT)!

Doubt its true, BK. Giratinabylydarioss8.jpgPalkia47Palkia.png Dialga.png. Noki is kinda neglected...


Is Birdo confirmed? I don't think so, because she's a lightweight in the article, although Yoshi's a middleweight. Could peolpe stop vandalizing the article? Can the article be protected, like Wikipedia? --PaperStriker 06:39, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

Not handy if a normal user like me would adding something that is officially seen/confirmed. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Respuesta_ Pues claro que si va a salir Baby Birdo yo tengo varias imagenes donde se ven Mario,Luigi,etc y ademas se ven Daisy,Baby Birdo,Baby Yoshi,Birdo y Koppa Paratroppa pero no se como ponerles esas imagenes aqui en esta pagina y creanme que si son verdaderas please como las pongo

Por favor, dimos el URL a los pinturas. Stumpers! 19:14, 19 March 2008 (EDT) (did that make sense?)

Stumpers tu abla spanish?! Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:18, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

O nos puedes dar er "link"/"url" del lugar de donde tienes esa foto. O nos puedes decir el sitio.
Ingles:English: Can't be protected yet. linkswordmi2.gifPaper Jorge ( Talk·Contributions)·linkswordmi2.gif
Well, I have no idea what's going on. Birdoshi just claimed to have a link (if my Spanish doesn't stink), but now I'm being asked to show the link. What's going on? Stumpers! 19:37, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

I have no idea what that spanish or whatever thing said, but I agree this should be protected. Which genius put Baby Birdo (WTF) Baby Yoshi (...) and Baby Luigi (Thats the only plausable one) in the section when there are NO SOURCES. Nor are there for the paratroopa, IIRC. I maybe wrong, so I'm asking BEFORE I make a possibly-contriversial edit. GreenKoopa - Comments or questions? · Koopa.gif

Answer -hears if you do not understand the person to him who writes in Spanish because I recommend you that you see Dora the Explorer jaja and soon they say that those that speak in english they are very intelligent jajaja watches you cannot nor read what this in then Spanish who is the donkey the Spanish or your that you do not know what the one says because that I answer to him the Spanish is definitively the donkey your gringo

Didddy :)

i saw the video that he was in nut how do you know he is medium wieght? Blue35pxKoopC

2 more tracks

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other tracks

Moomview Highway

Koopa Cape

Above artcle confirms 18 characters

Actully it confirms 18 unlockable charactors --Blue Koop 13:55, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

In the link to Moomview Highway new versions of Bowser's Caslte and Rainbow Road are confirmed, which makes a total of 12 confirmed tracks. Also, I've seen Shroom Ridge on a screen shot (as retro track). I don't think there'll be 18 unlockables. But first I should read the article, lol. :) --PaperStriker 20:08, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

The first link also confirmed the Special Cup and Moomview Highway, Bowser Castle and Rainbow Road are in it. --PaperStriker 12:08, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

18 total charactors?

are there 30 total charactors or 18???
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blue Koop (talk).

18, JeuxFrance showed a video showing the select screen and it had 5 ?'s, he had 13 characters (the 12 starting characters + Diddy Kong) thus confirming 18 characters/6 unlockables.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freekhenstra (talk).


The page is just missing and it said yes, my brother did it, i thought he was blocked --Blue Koop 09:42, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Secret Characters?

How do we know Daisy and Diddy will be in this game?

The MissingLinkBowser 2.PNG TML Rulez

well i saw them in a couple trailers, i don't have the sources though, someone else might but how do we know there weights? Blue KoopC

Japanese Official Site, but if you don't have sources, I don't belive you, you may be lying..... But probaly not! Can you PLEASE try to find the sources.....

The MissingLinkBowser 2.PNG TML Rulez

I'll try Blue35pxKoopC

this might be one of them Blue35pxKoopC

Daisy is in the IGN Flower Cup video on the map (Youtube has low quality, go to IGN itself), and Diddy was seen in the character selection in a video of JeuxFrance. Don't have links. FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

Weight-class karts and bikes

I've read on the GameFAQs Message Board of MKW that the karts and bikes will be divided into weight classes, that means everyone in the same weightclass shares his/her karts and bikes with the others of the same weight class. --PaperStriker 12:11, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Birdo y Toadette?

Y donde quedaron Birdo y Toadette? Al parecer se estan olvidando de ellas ya que no las pusieron como playable characters en : Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games tambien en: Super Smash Bros Brawl, de hecho en este juego no salieron ni de assist trophies solamente salieron de simples trofeos que ni sirven para nada esos trofeos - nosotros queremos usarlas como playable characeters jugar con ellas pero no no las ponen y ahora me encuentro con que en Mario Kart Wii empiezas con 12 characters y solamente sacas otros 6 characeters esas son chingaderas y por si fuera poco no se han visto entre esos 6 characters la Birdo y la Toadette que son personajes clave en los juegos de Mario ya que ellas han salido en bastantes juegos de Mario y ya ahorita ellas deberian ser como Daisy que siempre la ponen bueno no es justo que solamente pongan a Daisy en Mario Kart Wii tambien queremos que pongan a Birdo y a Toadette todas parejas para que asi esten Peach Daisy Birdo y Toadette las 4 juntas como deberia ser siempre en todos los juegos de Mario pero eso es lo que Nintendo no quiere entender ya que hacen unos juegos bien divertidos y nosotros solamente estamos esperando a que salga el juego para comprarlo y jugarlo y luego con lo que salen QUE NO PONEN A BIRDO Y TOADETTE y luego la larga espera de que nos sirvio de que nos sirvio estar pensando en el juego de que como se jugaria y de como seria y luego para que te enteres de que no salen Birdo y Toadette o tu personaje favorito en el dichoso juego pues logico que te enojas y te decepcionas una vez mas de Nintendo y acabas por no comprar el juego esa es la verdad Si van a hacer un juego haganlo bien y pongan a los personajes basicos que son Mario Luigi Wario Waluigi Peach Daisy Yoshi Birdo Toad Toadette Boo y Dry Bones esos son los personajes que no deben faltar en cualquier juego de Mario ya que son muy importantes y cada uno de ellos y ellas tiene millones de fans asi que ahora espero que les haya quedaddo entendido que al no poner a un personaje decepcionan a millones de fans y se que solo es un detalle lo del personaje pero ese detalle determina si se venda mucho el juego o no ahora espero que reflexionen sobre esto y ahora si pongan a Birdo y a Todette en Mario Krt Wii ya que todavia se pueden agregar por que todavia no ha salido y si es por eso pueden retrasarlo unas semanas mas total si nos esperamos mucho tiempo en que saliera Super Smash Bros Brawl por que no podemos esperarnos unas semanas mas para jugar Mario Kart Wii total la espera tiene sus recompensas y no como otros juegos que por hacerlo rapido al final cuando lo estan jugando en sus casas dicen a etaria bien padre el juego si pasara esto o si saliera un personaje y asi se queda el juego asi que mejor hagan los juegos con calma y no se apresuren por que todos se pueden esperar un poco mas digo ahi tienen mas juegos con que entretenerse mientras esperan el juego nuevo.

In English:

And where they were left Birdo and Toadette? Apparently they forget them since they did not put like playable characters in: Mario & Sonic AT The Olympic Games also in: Super Smash Bros Brawl, in fact in this game did not leave nor assist trophies only left simple trophies that nor are used for anything those trophies - we want to use them as playable characeters to play with them but does not put you and now I am whereupon in Mario Kart Wii you begin with 12 characters and only other 6 extractions characeters that are a stupidity and to top it all have not seen between those 6 characters the Birdo and the Toadette that is characters key in the games of Mario since they have left in enough games of Mario and or right now they must be like Daisy that always puts it good is not right that they only put to Daisy in Mario Kart Wii also we want that they put to Birdo and to Toadette all pairs so that they are Peach Daisy Birdo and Toadette the 4 meetings as it always must of being in all the games of Mario but that are what Nintendo does not want to understand since they match affluent amused and we are only hoping to that he leaves the game to buy it and to play it soon and with which they leave THAT THEY SOON DO NOT PUT To BIRDO and TOADETTE and the long delay as which serves to us as which it serves to us to be thinking about the game that as gambled and of like sera and soon so that you find out that Birdo and Toadette do not leave or your character favorite in the happy then then game you get angry and you are disappointed once again of Nintendo and you finish not buying the game that is the truth If they are going to match is necessary to make sure that this good and this complete one and put to characters that they cannot lack that they are Mario Luigi Wario Waluigi Peach Daisy Yoshi Birdo Toad Toadette Boo and Dry Bones those are characters that do not have to lack in any game of Mario since they are very important and each one of them and they has million of fans asi that now I hope that to them it has been understood that when not putting to to character they disappoint to million of fans and that single the one of character is a detail but that detail determines if much is sold the game or but now I hope that they reflect on this and now if they put to Birdo and to Todette in Mario Kart Wii since if it reaches the time to be able to add them so that it has not even left the game and if it is for that reason they can delay it weeks but total if we were expected long time in that Super Smash Bros Brawl left so that we cannot wait for weeks to us but to play Mario Kart total Wii the delay has his you compensate and not like other games that to make it in the end fast when they estan playing in its houses say that there was been or father the game if it passed this or if it left to character and asi the game is had left asi that better the games with calm do and they do not hurry so that all can be waited for a little but I say ahi have but games whereupon to entertain itself while they wait for the new game.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birdoshi (talk).

Is this related to the article in any way? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 19:42, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Is not necessary that supporting characters (birdo, toadette, dry bones, or somebody else) don't have to get in the game, so, don't write something that, unless it's factible - ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png

Respuesta: Para tu informacion Birdo y Toadette si son muy importantes en los juegos de Mario y no se a veces no las ponen yo no se se les olvidara ponerlas o que se yo pero si se que deberian ponerlas y las cosas que puse son ciertas pero bueno ya no voy a poner cosas asi en la pagina de discusion de Mario Kart Wii que de hecho si puedo escribir eso por que es una pagina de discusion daaaa pero ya mejor ya no escribo eso para que te calles la boca coincollector y descanses tus lindos dedos de seguirme contestando ok
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birdoshi (talk).

Se bueno con Coinollector. No podemos agregar la informacion de que Birdo y Toadette estan en el juego asta que tengamos prueba. Tienes una prueba de que estan en el juego? Como una foto? linkswordmi2.gifPaper Jorge ( Talk·Contributions)·linkswordmi2.gif

Respuesta: La verdad no tengo ninguna imagen que confirme a las 2 (Birdo y Toadette)en Mario Kart Wii, bueno tengo una imagen de Baby Birdo pero ya la pense y no creo que sea real aunque se ve muy bonilla la imagen y bien trabajada pero no creo que sea verdad y no se como poner un link o algo parecido para que la veas bueno el caso es que puse lo de Birdo y Toadette por que queria que ustedes le dijieran a las personas de Nintendo que estan trabajando en Mario Kart Wii que pusieran a Birdo y a Toadette como playable characters en Mario Kart Wii pues yo pense eso por toda la informacion que tienen en esta pagina (Super Mario Wiki) y todas las cosas acerca de los juegos, personajes, y como se supieron la informacion de personajes y todo eso de Super Smash Bros Brawl antes que la de Smash Bros Dojo! y toda es cierta pues pense : esta es una pagina buena y ha de tener alguna relacion con Nintendo porque como para tener toda esa informacion de Mario Kart Wii, Smash, Stadium Baseball, entre otros antes de que otra pagina entonces Nintendo les ha de dar la informacion,entonces puse lo de Birdo y Toadette por que queria que ustedes le dijieran a Nintendo que pusieran a Birdo y a Toadette como playable characters en Mario Kart Wii entonces Nintendo les pasa la informacion y la pagina es buena o es como cualquier otra pagina y la informacion de donde la sacan que o que pasa aqui responde Paper Jorge
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birdoshi (talk).

Para tu información, toda la información que sacamos de esto es a partir de varias páginas web que hablan de esto. usamos ésas páginas de internet como fuente de información o referencias para desarrollar los artículos que hay en este wiki. ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png Ojalá que tuviéramos un vínculo o un acuerdo con la Nintendo, pero la verdad no tenemos nada que ver con respecto a la compañía.

Eso es cierto. Nintendo solo da la informacion por su pagina web o las revistas de Nintendo. Y Nintendo todavia no a confirmado ni a Baby Birdo, Birdo o a Toadette. No savemos si estan en el juego o no asi de que no podemos poner la informacion asta que estemos seguros. En que sitio esta la imagen de Baby Birdo? linkswordmi2.gifPaper Jorge ( Talk·Contributions)


Hey Paper Jorge ya te dije que la imagen de Baby Birdo la tengo yo en la carpeta mis imagenes por que la vi en un sitio y me gusto la imagen y le pulse al boton (Imp Pan) luego puse paint y le puse pegar y guarde la imagen y el sitio donde estaba se me olvido como se llamaba pues como ese dia visite muchisimos sitios ya ni me acuerdo y luego ese dia borre el historial porque era un monton de paginas y era un revoltijo asi que borre el historial y nadams tengo la imagen y no tengo el link o algo parecido.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birdoshi (talk).

Dun talk Spanish, I don't understand anything. :( Anyway, from the translation: "characters that they cannot lack that they are Mario Luigi Wario Waluigi Peach Daisy Yoshi Birdo Toad Toadette Boo and Dry Bones those are characters that do not have to lack in any game of Mario since they are very important and each one of them and they has million of fans". Neither Bowser nor DK are included in this list, because the listed characters are the characters that appear in MP7. I don't think (though I hope) Toadette and Birdo are included and that fanon text doesn't make it more likely. PaperStriker
Mira PaperStriker se me olvido poner a Donkey Kong y a Bowser pero es obvio que tambien tienen muchos fans al igual que todos los personajes de Mario y respecto a que esos personajes solo aparecen en Mario Party 7 es una mentira muy grande ya que tambien salen en Mario Superstar Baseball,Mario Party 8, Super Mario Strikers Charged,Mario Super Stadium Bseball, Mario Kart Double Dash,y en fin en muchos otros mas y ojala y que Mario Kart Wii sea como Mario Kart Double Dash y que tenga todos los personajes de Mario Kart Double Dash mas Dry Bones y uno que otro nuevo y para que entiendas el español ponte a ver el programa de Dora La Exploradora te aseguro que con ella y su amigo el chango aprenderas el idioma español aunque eso te va a llevar tiempo pero de todas formas te repito lo anterior en tu idioma el ingles.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birdoshi (talk).

PaperStriker sight I forget to me to put to Donkey Kong and Bowser but it is obvious that also they have many fans like all characters of single Mario and with respect to which those characters appear in Mario Party 7 is a very great lie since also they leave in Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Party 8, Super Mario Strikers Charged, Super Mario Stadium Bseball, Mario Kart Double Dash, and in aim in many other but and desire that Mario Kart Wii is like Mario Kart Double Dash and that has all characters of Mario Kart Double Dash but Dry Bones and one that another new one and so that you understand the Spanish I recommend to see to you Dora the explorer. I assure to you that with her and its friend the monkey you are going to learn the Spanish language although that is going to take time to you but in any case already I said to the answer in your language english to you. hey brother you are not created the one of Dora the Explorer single joked sorry
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birdoshi (talk).

Um...? <_< I don't think I'll learn Spanish that quickly... But I speak German. :P PaperStriker

babe birdo

was baby birdo a fluke or april fools joke??? or what, there WAS a image of her.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blue Koop (talk).

It's false, the image was altered as if she were another character... :|

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png but looks like pretty real though.

Your wright, it does look real, but i read somewhere it was based off her mp8 look --Blue Koop 21:27, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Koopa Cape and Daisy Pier

What do you think about this image? Left one is from Koopa Cape, right one fron Daisy Pier (Daisy's circuit) Should we add some info. about them? Mariokartwiipics.jpg
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amaral (talk).

Where did you find this? (and specially, those names) ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png then, you can put here.

Koopa Cape was confirmed above in a review (along with Moomview Highway, Bowser Castle and Rainbow Road). --PaperStriker 06:01, 28 March 2008 (EDT)


If you go to this site [2] and start playing the 2nd video you can see on 1:05 to 1:08 Toadette in the last place on the map. You can also see the Daisy and Koopa tracks and a Wiggler course in this video. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Are you sure that was Toadette??? User:Blue Koop/Sig

I'm very sure. Who do you think it is? I can't see an other character in it. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

OK, Toadette is confirmed. But are the others (like Birdo, Toadsworth, etc.) in the article confirmed, too? PaperStriker (forgot to add my sig...)

Shroom Ridge deleted?

Um, who has deleted Shroom Ridge from the Retro track list? In citaion 8, 2nd picture, 2nd row in the gallery, you can see something that looks extremely similar to Shroom Ridge. It has the same street and the same walls, both are rather unique to this course, so it's clearly Shroom Ridge. Any comments? --PaperStriker 06:18, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

It was the new Mario Circuit. Not Shroom Ridge. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

OK, thanks. :) PaperStriker


I've put the link that confirms Moomview Highway, Bowsr Castle and Rainbow Road, but I don't know how to merge the references. They're all three seperate from each other at the bottom of the page (named [2], [3] and [4], lol). Can someone help me? :( Never mind, have done it. :) --PaperStriker 06:53, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Aw, too bad I wasn't on when you needed help! I just did that for the new Dr Mario. Stumpers! 17:13, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

??? Desert

are you sure thats not Yoshi Deasert from MKSC?? --Blue Koop 11:45, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

No, because all retro tracks are confirmed in the link. BTW, if anyone wants me to translate that info, just ask. :) PaperStriker

]] i'd like you to, you know translate it to english --Blue Koop 14:51, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Hmm, let's see:

The new courses in detail

That's only here: We have played Mario Kart Wii and present the MAN!AC-controlled track guide. How do the new circuits look like? Where are the meanest traps hidden, when should you best overtake the others and which course is especially short, really difficult or exceptional beautiful?

Mushroom Cup

Luigi Circuit

A typical "Mario Kart" introduction course: You drive short laps on the asphalt circuit between succulent grass. Long straightaways dominate the track. You can pass some drivers on the boost pads before the finish line.

Moo Moo Meadows

64-drivers know the peaceful farm-scenery, but the new track is better than the classic. You grab cool items at the big jump, then you should avoid the braking grass - and on the course tere are some moles.

Mushroom Gorge

The first highlight: The colorful circuit surprises with great mushroom-jump passages, two branchings and a hairpin turn shortly before the finish line. Whoever falls into the pit at the trampoline mushrooms, loses the joining quickly.

Toad's Factory

We liked especially this course at the test session: Many conveyor belts move you sideways, others brake or accelerate you. You'll rarely be squashed by the big crusher, you shouldn't miss the boost pads in any case.

Flower Cup

Mario Circuit

Directly after the start, the town drivethrough becomes narrow, avoid the wrangling at your best - then the simple course shouldn't be a problem for you. Either pass the Chain Chomp with a competent drift or just race away behind its back.

Coconut Mall

This mall is crazy: You race for the victory on different levels - but choose the right escalators. After a monster jump and a 90° curve you turn to the mean finish straightaway - the cars there will stand several races on their heads.

DK Summit

Whoever liked the mountain rally from the Cube, will love the Summit. A cannon shoots you to to the top, then you drive into the valley. Stunts help you through the braking snow in the halfpipe, on the hump circuit you shouldn't miss the ski-jumps - you'll fall down more than once at the hairpin turn.

Wario's Gold Mine

Do you recognize this track? Here we had the first pictures of the game. You race over tops that would be good enough for a rollercoaster. The one who gets past the bats and waggons can beat everyone on the finish straightaway with a stunt-turbo.

Star Cup

Daisy Circuit

Don't let you distract by the huge gold statues or beautiful sunsets, but concentrate on the mean zigzag curves - good drivers race almost straight here; but else it's an unspectacular course.

Koopa Cape

Welcome to the water-fun paradise: You race, or better raft down the mountain brook and master many jumps - careless drivers will be dragged along by the current at the end. You make a mega drift in the underwater pipe - the energy barriers don't pose a threat.

Maple Treeway

This track is inspired by "Super Mario Galaxy". Race through the heap of leaves and let you be charm by fall-like colors. Be careful at the field with the two Wigglers and some narrow passages on tree trunks - whoever drifts competently and doesn't fall down, wins!

Thundering Volcano

Graphically the course isn't that impressing, but great drivers can prove their skills. Avoid the meteorites, curve around the hopping Lava baddies and get the right branching. Wanton drivers land in the fire lake and can forget the victory, though.

Because we can't give out information about unlockable drivers and courses until the release termin at April 11th on instruction of Nintendo, you have to dispence with descriptions of the 4 new courses. But we really would have liked to explain how to get from the sandy ruins over the Highway and Rainbow Road to the Castle of the big baddie...

16 classic "Mario Kart"-tracks

Here you get to know whether your favorite courses from "Super Mario Kart", "Mario Kart 64", "Mario Kart Super Circuit", "Mario Kart Double Dash!!" or "Mario Kart DS" are playable. The following courses are in "Mario Kart Wii":

Ghost Valley 2 (SNES)

Mario Circuit 3 (SNES)

Bowser's Castle (N64)

DK Jungle Parkway (N64)

Mario Raceway (N64)

Sherbet Land (N64)

Bowser Castle 3 (GBA)

Shy Guy Beach (GBA)

DK Mountain (GC)

Mario Circuit (GC)

Peach Beach (GC)

Waluigi Stadium (GC)

Desert Hills (DS)

Peach Gardens (DS)

Delfino Plaza (DS)

Yoshi Falls (DS)

Gosh, that was much work... I'm not that perfect at English, so excuse me if it wasn't translated exactly, but I've tried my best. :D PaperStriker

good job traslating this into english, but which language was first? reading the section, they describe the racecourses by their opininons. ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png I want to know where did you find this.

It was the link in the ??? Desert section and it was in German. :) PaperStriker

Princess Rosalina!?

An user put a link that one secret character viewed from the official nintendo magazine Italy, is coming from Super Mario Galaxy... Sua Splendidezza ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png Will be Rosalina? I don't put anything of this if someone have considered that rosalina has been a recognizable character...

Rosalina, I think, because the bosses can't drive and Luma is unlikely. Bowser Jr. (if he counts) is even more likely, though. PaperStriker
There's no reason to jump to conclusion about it being Rosalina. It could very well be Kamella or even King Kaliente for that matter. After all, Petey Piranha and King Boo were added after their boss appearances in Mario Sunshine, it'd make sense if the character from Mario Galaxy is a boss. UrsulaBoi 15:34, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
Yes, but imagine Major Burrows, Topmaniac or Bugaboom driving around. If the unlockable character appeared in SMG, it would be Bowser Jr.. If he or she debuted there, it would be Rosalina. --PaperStriker 15:58, 29 March 2008 (EDT) Too lazy to add my sig. :P

Well, I never put that she will surely appear, however some user(s)are being brain-washed by false and speculative info, that might be false in the future. ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png However, if it means Sua Spledidezza, means to woman or girl - because, Bowser Jr. is not so splendid...

I have readed on a web-page that a Dutch magazine N-Gamer said A girl with twinkle eyes will be playble. It looks to me like Roslalina, but again, it's not sure if this is true. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

@Coincollector: I don't speak Italian, so I couldn't know... And if the character is female, then it's either Rosalina (very likely), a female Luma (very unlikey) or Kamella (also very unlikely). PaperStriker
It's still speculation, we can't put most-likeliness as a source. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 09:51, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
I can understand (a bit) of some italian words, because they have certain similarities with my language. therefore, that therm could tell about a woman. --

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png 13:17, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

It could be Queen Bee, but it's most likely Rosalina. But you never know, I live in the Netherlands and some magazine's here search on the internet for information, find a fake roster and use it. FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

I think some user vandal Rosalina page because a user post that she is playable but this is uncomfirmed. Should I remove this info untill we receive a trustful soucre or a offical artwork? Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:56, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

Ummm... Someone just upload a image is this offical! (It's show that Rosalina is playable.I don't know if it real.) -> Image:Rosalinainmkwiifj6.png YS Grape Artwork.pngGrapes YS Grape Artwork.png

I have to admit that looks pretty good...but again, everyone just wait until April 10th and the full roster comes out. Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 15:42, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

I dunno... i'm afraid that this image is a sort fake, because rosalina is driving on a (magenta) kart - it should be a light-blue kart, isn't it? and why she looks big-headed ? ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png where did you find that?

I found it on Rosalina page I didn't upload it. YS Grape Artwork.pngGrapes YS Grape Artwork.png

I see. well, looks like a mere evidence she will appear in the game (although that kart... X( [?] )

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png thanks :)

I hope this mere evdidence isn't false. But Wayoshi is right it best to wait untill the game is release to see if it true or false. YS Grape Artwork.pngGrapes YS Grape Artwork.png

Ummm bad news that image is an hoax! YS Grape Artwork.pngGrapes YS Grape Artwork.png

She looked like (and maby was) a fotoshopt Mii. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Post-Release To-Do List

This game launches very soon. Please post obscure stuff that should be done when the game is released here. Stumpers! 18:40, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

  1. Delete this image, as secret characters only need reference until the game has been released. Stumpers! 18:40, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
Your request's done -

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png I think I'll wait for the game too for substantious info.

Missions, how you unlock stuff, karts & motorcycles and course maps. I'm gonna get it April 10th. FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

Bedoel je niet 11 april? Het spel komt op die datum in Nederland. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Weet ik, maar hier ontvangen ze spellen op woensdag en zetten ze het in de winkel op donderdag, dus 10 april FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

18 or 24?

When I saw a video at JeuxFrance the character select screen had 18 characters (13 characters (Starting + Diddy) and 5 ?'s). The first six are light weights, the middle six are middle and weights the last six are heavy weights. I thought it confirmed 18 characters, but now some say it's 24. If it is true that there are 18 characters, There's only one unconfirmed and that's a heavy weight (I don't count Rosalina). So if Rosalina is confirmed and there are 18 characters, she must be a heavy weight (which she is most likely not). What I'm trying to say is if there are 18 characters, Rosalina is very likely not playable. FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

There are 24 (excluding Mii) because Nintendo confirmed it in a Japanese trailer. If you have not unlocked anything you will see no ?'s. If you unlock more, more ?'s will appear. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Yeah, I'd not trust the ?'s, Super Smash Bros. Melee also had more unlockable characters than ?'s on the screen. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 10:26, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

What trailer? EDIT: I found it :) FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

Track order + Yoshi Desert

In this link someone posted the (speculative) track order and the name of the desert. Since "content of speculative nature is allowed" (see the template on the top of the page), I'd suggest we'd add that order of tracks. There's also a (again, speculative) character roster. What do you think? Should we add that info? PaperStriker

1)I think you can add the track order and/or name. We can always change names of tracks and track orders if we find more info about it. The name of the track Maple Treeway isn't also confirmed, but it sounds and looks like it is the real name. 2)Can't we make a suspected characters section on this page? 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

1) OK, I've added it.
2) I think this would be a good idea, since many people keep adding fake characters to the character section. PaperStriker
BTW, Maple Treeway's name is confirmed here. PaperStriker

Toadette on video (not icon)

click!Go to around 40. At around 41/42 Toadette passes Peach on Peach Beach.Darth waluigi 13:32, 2 April 2008 (EDT)

Well, this "toad" (as a species) has a pink cap with white spots, perhaps she is toadette, although i can't watch very well, because it's blurry ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png wait a little more, uhm... until we get the game?

It could be the Radio Contest Toad. ;) PaperStriker

Good point, paperstriker <D. By this, since we heard that at least, 24 characters in total (excluding Miis) are going to appear, there is the possibility that any character of the mario-verse could appear -besides the most known characters... ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png

I've watched a sharper version of the video and it looks like Toadette. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Found She's right at the beginning.Darth waluigi 14:32, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

^That one was Baby Peach for sure, not Toadette -Pikatwo

  • Wow... The Baby Stroller Kart makes it look like Toadette's head...Darth waluigi 21:03, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

The official JP site has the same vid (Opening Cinematic), but with better quality. I'm 99% sure it's Toadette. FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

Iwata Asks: Mario Kart Wii

There's an "Iwata Asks" about MKW now:

It revealed some things about MKW:

  • If you only use the Wii Wheel and never use another controller, you get a Golden Wii Wheel next to your name, but if you use another controller, it will change back to a white one.
  • There's a new mode called Ghost Battles where you race against ghosts.
  • There's another new mode that looks like "100-Man Brawl" from SSBB.
  • There will be a new character from SMG


That new character may be Rosalina, I'm 50% sure. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Who else I wonder could it be? Toad is there, so another member of the Toad Brigade is unlikely... Stumpers! 10:29, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Maybe it's Queen Bee (Imagines Queen Bee on a motorbike). It'll be Rosalina, 70% sure. What could the 100-Man Brawl-like thing be? FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

The only other character that could be from SMG would be a Luma and I doubt that. It's probably Rosalina. Mcoolister Coolister2.png T, C, R

Actually, It coulld also be Kamella. Mcoolister Coolister2.png T, C, R

Also, I saw some european pages that talk about using classical controllers in mario kart wii: although you can play with these controllers, you can't perform so many moves (as tricks or speeding up the bike) as you can do with the Wii-mote

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png by the other hand, I guess it should be Rosalina, a luma is not very possible, although it could be magikoopa too, because she was a classic character that made a -prototype- appearance in MK64.

It is a character debuting in SMG! Not just appearing in it, that's what I meant with "new". FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

It could be a boss, there was petey from sunshine in Double Dash --Blue Koop 13:56, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

According to IGN, the GameCube controller can pull of those tricks with the + control pad. Stumpers! 14:00, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

  • It doesn't mean they're new and came from SMG, they mean it's new to Mario Kart.Darth waluigi 14:05, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
  • It does, if they mean Magikoopa they wouldn't have said it came from SMG. They said this: "By the way, a new character has joined in from Super Mario Galaxy, so I hope you look forward to it…". If it didn't debut in Super Mario Galaxy, they wouldn't have said that. FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

Ok, I was just thinking. they only said that you cannot perform certain moves with classical controllers. ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png Now, it's time we stop talking who is the secret character from SMG here. talk that in the chat, don't you?

American site

It is a small site but the intro movie of Mario Kart Wii is very large. The adress of the site is 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Not to sound offending, but that is the same video as above (with Toadette), but in higher quality... :/ PaperStriker

It's without doubt Toadette in that video, look at this. Maybe we can use it in the article. FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png ToadetteMKW.png

I knew it was the same video but I said the quiality was good. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Arend, you've done great! Stumpers! 18:34, 7 April 2008 (EDT)


Does the trivia really belong there? I think it's just trying to say that it's oh so special that a game is released in PAL before and thus, that Nintendo doesn't care about us Europeans... PaperStriker

removed trivia: Super Mario Strikers and Mario Strikers Charged are mario-games that were released first in Europe --

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png 23:04, 4 April 2008 (EDT) also, someone has seen that a part of the mirror mode appears in the intro video of the game? koopa racing in the mirrored yoshi falls.

--Birdoasw.gif 21:24, 5 April 2008 (EDT)== Koopa Paratropa ==

--bpdt 17:45, 5 April 2008 (EDT) Hey that is not obvious that koopa paratropa is going to leave in mario kart wii then in the list items this its item the three red shells
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birdoshi (talk).

Wha? sorry, but I don't understand... --

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png 19:10, 5 April 2008 (EDT) there is no evidence if paratroopa will appear, so we'll wait...

It's too late too wait, anyway we've got five more days till the game releases in japan.F gLarrynana.gif

Well, perhaps someone pre-ordered one (or obtained the game before time), and now, that guy's playing

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--bpdt 21:08, 5 April 2008 (EDT) The game is going to leave first in Japan or first in Europe?

--Birdoasw.gif 21:27, 5 April 2008 (EDT)y la imagen que puse coincollector la de mario kart wii donde vienen todos los personajes y ustedes le cambiaron el nombre a racers apoco esa imagen va a ser la portada dela caja del juego es que escuche rumores.

King Boo

  • click The second time it pauses you can see that "Boo" definitely has a crown.Darth waluigi 22:30, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

I don't see anything but thats because the video is unsharp. I search for more info. EDIT: I found an other video on this web page It will load very slow. Wait until the Ghost Vally track. You will see a staff ghost of KING Boo (if you watch closely, you will see a crown). 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Bowser Jr is in --> click

That link doesn't work, this is a shortened version of an URL. FH-sprite.pngFreekhenstraFH-sprite.png

I searched the last things and I found it! [3] But, it looks like DK or Diddy, you know? Well, DK is it not. That are showing the pics on this page (and no, not my account: [4] Now is the question: is it Diddy or is it Jr? Oh yeah: the up-sides of Bowser Jr. are from Double Dash for comperation. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

  • Last I checked, Diddy's hat is red.=P I'll add Bowser Jr. to the list.Why are you reading my siganture? 20:33, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
    The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darth waluigi (talk).

Wait, so is Bowser Jr confirmed or not? Toad allstar

  • Yes... And who put heavyweight up for Bowser Jr.? All we know is his icon.Why are you reading my siganture? 20:33, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
    The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darth waluigi (talk).

Birdoasw.gif 16:28, 7 April 2008 (EDT)Bowser Jr is not heavy weight character.He is a light weight character, simply so that he is very small and it does not have as much weight.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birdoshi (talk).

Did you see him in SMG? He's taller than Peach there. Also, that pictures looks clearly (like, 100%) like Bowser Jr. PaperStriker

Rainbow Road

Is there a Rainbow Road in the game? (Rumor has it that its not appearing in this game. I just wanted to know.) YS Grape Artwork.pngGrapes YS Grape Artwork.png

  • It's in the full list of tracks...Darth Waluigi 20:59, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

It is I didn't see it. (Yikes 0_o >_< I feel so dumb. ) YS Grape Artwork.pngGrapes YS Grape Artwork.png

It's some logic that every mario kart game features its classical (and risky) rainbow road -- ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png 21:50, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

Watch this Its Rainbow Road on wifi with King Boo 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

OH EM GEE!!!!1



clickDarth Waluigi 21:24, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

Doctored photos FTL. GreenKoopa - Comments or questions? · Koopa.gif

Pretty factible, sure, are not they "fotoshoped"?

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png rosalina as heavyweight (?), funky kong and dry bones bowser - and another type of bike by the funky monkey... dixie kong could also appear?

I don't think Rosalina's a heavyweight only because Bowser's bike is next to her. PaperStriker BTW, the pics look really, well, real, but they seem to be fake to me (why should Nintendo put in Funky Kong and Bowser Bones?).
Well, they put in Koopa Troopa and Baby Peach... --Trogga 16:12, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

How could Rosalina be a heavy weight?

Just because she used a bike that would belong to a heavy weight doesn;t mean she herself would be a heavy weight. Why not just put her in the ? Weight class for now?AmFlip25 23:33, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

Well, I really dunno the reason, although, it might be possible she is a heavyweight character. there is a similar case with waluigi: it's suppossed that he is a mediumweight but he's classified as heavyweight in this game... ¢oincollctor rsitem209.png another reason, could be a cheat code or a special unlock that characters can drive all type of karts regardless of their weight class...

Ah, maybe its gonna be like Mario Kart DS with every character using every kart and all.AmFlip25 08:06, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, and adding to the heavyweight, stuff, notice how King Boo is heavyweight. Well, he's big, but he's a ghost; why should he weigh anything? Marcelagus (TCE)
I don't think Rosalina's actual weight has anything to do with it, I think they just wanted to have a female Heavyweight character. Plus, having three princesses in the same class would be rather redundant. UrsulaBoi 11:25, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

I can't inmagine that Rosalina is heavy. I think it's the same as DS. Notice Dry Bones in MKDS in Bowser's kart in MKDS. The weight is only changed. Thus Rosalina on a Heavyweight Motorcycle can also be that the stats are changed. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) Dry Bones is in to! --Blue Koop 09:57, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

But my bro Paul says that the colors of Roasalina's are NOT her colors, but Bowser's colors. Also on the web page of Blue Koop you can see King Boo on Bowsers bike. Diddy Kong is in Mario's kart. Funky Kong and Bowser Bones are sitting on the same bike. You can find lots more of this mixed kart problem. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

mmm maybe is the class of vehicle, but NOT the vehicle's color

¢oincollctor rsitem209.png do you understand me?

The Baby Daisy pic looks strange... Why should she have the EXACT SAME haircut as Baby Peach? Maybe the hair is just recoloured? PaperStriker

Please take Baby Daisy Talk to the Baby Daisy Talk Page. Thanks! Jdrowlands (talk) 11:28, 8 April 2008 (EDT) - Confirms Petey Piranha kart (maybe even Petey himself) And that site Blue Koop posted confirms a Kamek/Magikoopa kart. If both of them are in, There's more than 24 characters, maybe there's 30 of them.

Yeah, how can that be? And why is there so many usless characters in? I mean like baby daisy and that skeleton Bowser. is there more than 24 characters? Toad allstar

Birdo's Confirmation

Birdo was just confirmed by the same person leaking photos of the secret characters. I trust this person and Birdo is believed to be Middleweight. If this is the case, then either Rosalina really is Heavyweight, or there are more characters. MDupont 12:22, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

I didn't see any confirmation of Birdo, could you give me the link? There are 24 playble characters, confirmed by Nintendo. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

If you check the first post of the thread, you can see she is the one posting all the pictures. As you can see, what she says holds water. Later on, on page 26 she says Birdo appears in the credits in a kart. MDupont 13:17, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

I belive Bidro is in. But it is very confusing because of Rosalina. Are you sure Birdo is Midde Weight? In my opinion she is heavier than Rosalina. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) EDIT: Hey wait, Rosalina is probably taller than Peach (unconfirmd). Maby is that the reson she is a heavy weigt.

Birdo can be seen passing Waluigi in the credits. It's clearly her. I think Rosalina MAY be as tall as Waluigi. Waluigi is skinny but still considered Heavy Weight because of his height. Rosalina could be the same way. She looks more slender than Peach and Daisy, so her being taller is possible. Is there a scene in Mario Galaxy where Peach and Rosalina are seen together? MDupont 14:03, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

I saw her on the video, not clearly but I recocniced her. There isn't any sene in Galaxy with Peach and Rosalina together. So Rosalina is on the same hight as Peach or taller (Rosalina is surely not shoter). BTW I saw video's on YOU TUBE with Rainbow Road, Bowser Castle, Maple Treeway, Bowser Casle N64 (more difficult than the orginal) and Moonview Highway. They all look pretty difficult especially Rainbow Road. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Remember youtube is not classed as a relible sorce on this wiki. Jdrowlands (talk) 15:06, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

But you can write down info what we have seen in video's. Arend

Not in the article. Jdrowlands (talk) 15:19, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

I don't understand you because I am not English. All I do know is that the videos I saw on youtube are from the real game and we can get information from them. We could give discriptions from those tracks. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Let's just wait for the release. Jdrowlands (talk) 15:51, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

This information sure isn't false and here is proof Bowsers Castle N64. I don't want to chage anithing on the wiki, I just want to let you guys know I found good information. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) if you look down you'll see birdo.--Lbrun12415 16:16, 8 April 2008 (EDT)