Talk:Prima Games

Who owns the NSMB2 one? --Hiccup (talk) 15:36, 21 September 2014 (EDT)

Is Prima really all it's glory?

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Now we all know that Prima is pretty good. But in a few places across this wiki I've seen some of you saying something like, "The Prima guide states this name, so that's official." But I want to say that Prima gets quite a few things wrong, like: The Mario Kart Wii guide says in several places that you can actually place Shells on the track so that they are stationary. If you just play the game a little bit you can find that this isn't true. The Super Mario Galaxy 2 guide doesn't even mention Amps, and calls the Scuttlebugs "Spoings" and "Spanglers", and the Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story guide doesn't say anything about Bowser X. Just saying. DarkBowser777(talk) 21:22, 2 March 2017 (EST)

Prima guides are filled with errors, but they're licensed material. Prima can be wrong about the game mechanics of Mario Kart Wii but it can't be "wrong" about the names of Sir Domino or Heavy Para-Beetle when no other material give name for those things. Hence why it's usable (and mostly used) for sourcing names.

That's my take on it at least. --Glowsquid (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2017 (EST)

I remember the MKWii guide saying Daisy is Peach's cousin or something as well...

While the Prima guides are official as of 2007, the games themselves should be the main source of information. If Prima says you can place stationary shells on the tracks, but the game doesn't allow that, the game mechanics take precedence and the Prima info is chalked down to trivia.

In terms of names, yeah, like Glowsquid said, if Prima's the only source, then we go with that. However, any Nintendo Power guides that say otherwise, we go with those instead. It's all in MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable sources for naming. 22:55, 2 March 2017 (EST)

I question its credibility being considered as a reliable source for MarioWiki:Naming in general. I have the most disdain for trusting it with King Bill (New Super Mario Bros. Wii) and its on-going proposal. The look of it looks like a Banzai Bill but has the abilities of a Bull's-Eye Bill. It doesn't even look like a King Bill. This case in particular makes me question Prima Games as a reliable source of information. However, for this discussion revival, I want to see how many inconsistencies can be spotted be logged here so that way we can discuss further if we should drop Prima as a reliable source for naming. Right now, its valid, but we need to gather evidence right now before we can decide if Prima should still be valid. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 17:57, 23 August 2017 (EDT)

One thing to keep in mind is that even the games themselves get stuff wrong, like SSBWiiU saying you can get a point for K.O.ing Metal Face. You can't. Human error is a usual thing. 18:01, 23 August 2017 (EDT)

I think Prima Games has more human error than official sources. I can't prove it yet because I only have one piece of evidence. I need way much more. Not to mention it will be 2:1 if we count Ostro and Birdo in the Super Mario Bros. 2 manual. Another mention is the very controversial Rocky Wrench Koopa debate. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 18:05, 23 August 2017 (EDT)

If it's officially licensed, it's been approved by Nintendo, and I don't see a reason to doubt that. For every mishap within the Prima guides, there are also plenty of names for enemies and other subjects that would go completely nameless otherwise. It's not like the Nintendo Power guides are immune to mistakes either; for example, the guide for Luigi's Mansion says that there are no ghosts in the Observatory and calls the ghosts inside "Falling Stars". Prima gets this one right. Dismissing Prima entirely would do far more harm than good. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 18:07, 23 August 2017 (EDT)

What I meant was, in terms like these, proper judgement should be used. To restate what I said a few months ago, what you do in the game may be completely different that what a guide says. The games, instruction manuals, Nintendo Power, Prima... Nothing's perfect. For naming, yes, them calling two different enemies by the same name is confusing, but if that's all we have to go off of... 18:10, 23 August 2017 (EDT)

Right now, let's just focus on how many errors we can spot and log. Can't conclude anything yet. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 18:11, 23 August 2017 (EDT)

Why? Are you trying to score which guides have more errors tag the others? Never mind the fact that at this point, Prima has released plenty more guides than the now-discontinued Player's Guides, our naming policy already dictates that Prima takes lesser precedence to the NP guides. What do you want to change about that? Hello, I'm Time Turner. 18:14, 23 August 2017 (EDT)