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====Oppose====
====Oppose====
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} Per discussion below. Since the attack names refer to a specific item than a move name, it would be better (in this case) to leave information on attacks that involve recurring Mario items to one page. Otherwise, we'd have to bend backward and split a lot of other items because they function differently from the core game (Bullet Bill (item), Blooper (item), Chain Chomp (item), Chain Chomp (special item), Springboard from [[Trampoline]], and other items. Finally, this proposal refers to an item that may not be seen, but the implications of the Fire Flower's existence are strong, demonstrated by the form change Mario and Luigi undergo.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} Per discussion below. Since the attack names refer to a specific item than a move name, it would be better (in this case) to leave information on attacks that involve recurring Mario items to one page. Otherwise, we'd have to bend backward and split a lot of other items because they function differently from the core game (Bullet Bill (item), Blooper (item), Chain Chomp (item), Chain Chomp (special item), Springboard from [[Trampoline]], and other items. Finally, this proposal refers to an item that may not be seen, but the implications of the Fire Flower's existence are strong, demonstrated by the form change Mario and Luigi undergo.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per Bazooka Mario. The info's fine where it is.


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Revision as of 23:23, December 12, 2015

Is it disgusting or delicious?

In the trivia part of this article, it reads:

"Mario even reveals something about their taste, claiming that fire flowers 'taste disgusting, but if I eat them, I can shoot Fireballs.'"

However, the constellation information for Fire Flower in Mario Party 9 states:

"A constellation resembling a lovely flower. Though it makes a surprisingly tasty snack, it's spicy enough to cause any who eat it to breath fire."

Bowser Jr., in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam.Triple K, Skye 10:11, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

Both of them are just one-off lines with no real importance. I doubt the writers of Mario Party 9 went out of their way to check that their jokes are in line with the German comics.--Vommack (talk) 11:32, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

Trivia mess-up

Has anyone noticed that the trivia for the omnipresent Fire Flower just plain makes no sense? Most of the stuff there is repeated information; it could easily be shrunk down to just two or three dot points. PokeMaster33333 (talk) 17:30, 29 June 2015 (EDT)

Split Fire Flower (the Special Attack) of Mario & Luigi series into a new article named Fire Flower (move)

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I do not understand why this section (a Special Attack) is merge with a Item that does not appear in these games. Most Special Attack have their own page so this one should also have its own page. This name was used for a Special Attack and not to mentioned a item. This sould be split in a page called "Fire Flower (move)". (Eg : Goomba Storm is not merge with Goomba, Shy Guy Squad is not merge with Shy Guy…)

Proposer: LudwigVon (talk)
Deadline: December 19, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. LudwigVon (talk) Per my proposal.
  2. Marioguy (talk) Per LudwigVon.
  3. Sonic98 (talk) Per all.

Oppose

  1. Bazooka Mario (talk) Per discussion below. Since the attack names refer to a specific item than a move name, it would be better (in this case) to leave information on attacks that involve recurring Mario items to one page. Otherwise, we'd have to bend backward and split a lot of other items because they function differently from the core game (Bullet Bill (item), Blooper (item), Chain Chomp (item), Chain Chomp (special item), Springboard from Trampoline, and other items. Finally, this proposal refers to an item that may not be seen, but the implications of the Fire Flower's existence are strong, demonstrated by the form change Mario and Luigi undergo.
  2. Walkazo (talk) - Per Bazooka Mario. The info's fine where it is.

Comments

This should also be do for the Red Shell and Green Shell, but I will wait after this proposal (if it passed)--LudwigVon Sig.png(TALK) 17:26, 5 December 2015 (EST)

All of Mario and Luigi's Special Attacks refer to a tangible item while Bowser's refers to a group or an action, so the comparison isn't perfect. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:02, 5 December 2015 (EST)

Also, one more comment: if this proposal passes, are you going to consider Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time Bros. items or are you just going to split that into something like "Green Shell (Bros. Item)". I'm not fully on board with this proposal. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 23:57, 6 December 2015 (EST)
I will just split into something like "Bros. Flower" since in Partners in Time, the Bros. Attack from Superstar Saga was replace with Bros. Item (a different concept) and later replace with special attack in Bowser's Inside Story (also a different concept this proposal is for this one). For Dream Team and Paper Jam, they should just get merge with Superstar Saga's Fire Bros. since they are Bros. Attack. I just make a single proposal for this one, because I wanted to know if there was possibility that it can passed, then after I will make bigger proposal for the attack and where it should go.--LudwigVon Sig.png(TALK) 11:28, 8 December 2015 (EST)
That sounds pretty convoluted. Wouldn't it be just good if all Fire Flower information stayed put in one overall Fire Flower page? Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:00, 10 December 2015 (EST)
After writing this, I thought about it a little , I did some checking on my side and I think you're right, I also think this attack has no real difference between each game.--LudwigVon Sig.png(TALK) 17:42, 10 December 2015 (EST)