Talk:Handstand
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In certain Super Mario series games that feature trees, characters can perform a handstand by climbing to the top of a tree. In Super Mario Maker 2, this handstand has prominence as a requirement in the courses Treetop Fireballs and Master of the Trees. Jumping while performing a handstand is distinct in way that resembles the Handstand Jump described in this article. Should this handstand be covered in this article? B700465189a9 (talk) 20:36, October 23, 2026 (UTC)
- If I'm correct, I do think it's pretty common to have this particular move in the 3D Mario games. You can trigger 1-Up Mushrooms to spawn in Super Mario 64. The description for this image is a handstand, after all.... Worthwhile to mention in this article.
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 03:58, October 24, 2026 (UTC)
- Mention? Maybe. Coverage? No. Its a bit of a paradox, but doing handstands at the top of climbable objects is in so many games, it would completely bury the information about doing a handstand on any surface as a form of defense and means to set up the Handstand Jump. We might even have to use a different infobox image! My general rule is "if the conjectural merge would take up over half of the article's contents, it probably shouldn't be done". And make no mistake, it is a conjectural merge, since doing handstands at the top of climbable objects existed long before Mario vs. Donkey Kong we know for sure that it takes no influence from Mario vs. Donkey Kong. Salmancer (talk) 04:14, October 24, 2026 (UTC)
- Sure, the action is in many games, but is sheer amount in of itself a barrier to coverage? We cover basic actions like Jump and Swim that surely have appeared in more games. I suppose you can argue that coverage from other games would obfuscate the original page's focus on the action in Donkey Kong for Game Boy and Mario vs. Donkey Kong, but it's not entirely clear that that was the page's focus. I'm not sure if you can call the incoming hypothetical merge "conjecture" either; simple actions usually don't need a precise name for these to be recognized as such. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:55, October 24, 2026 (UTC)
- Sure, the action is in many games, but is sheer amount in of itself a barrier to coverage? We cover basic actions like Jump and Swim that surely have appeared in more games. I suppose you can argue that coverage from other games would obfuscate the original page's focus on the action in Donkey Kong for Game Boy and Mario vs. Donkey Kong, but it's not entirely clear that that was the page's focus. I'm not sure if you can call the incoming hypothetical merge "conjecture" either; simple actions usually don't need a precise name for these to be recognized as such.
- Mention? Maybe. Coverage? No. Its a bit of a paradox, but doing handstands at the top of climbable objects is in so many games, it would completely bury the information about doing a handstand on any surface as a form of defense and means to set up the Handstand Jump. We might even have to use a different infobox image! My general rule is "if the conjectural merge would take up over half of the article's contents, it probably shouldn't be done". And make no mistake, it is a conjectural merge, since doing handstands at the top of climbable objects existed long before Mario vs. Donkey Kong we know for sure that it takes no influence from Mario vs. Donkey Kong. Salmancer (talk) 04:14, October 24, 2026 (UTC)
