Talk:Slurp Guy

Biology

The rules of biology of the Mushroom World must be written either in crayon or on a Magnadoodle if simply sticking a straw in its mouth is enough to make it a new species. Then again, I'm probably taking this more seriously than I need to. 9:12 AM 7/25/2019 (EST) MarioLover54

"Species" isn't really all that defined in the the context of wiki organization. We treat this as separate from Shy Guy not from a biology standpoint but from more of a gameplay + appearance sort of thing. Just as how Beach Koopa is its own "species". It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 14:47, July 25, 2019 (EDT)

This is why I use "variant" whenever I try to make new wikis for similar franchises. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:03, July 25, 2019 (EDT)

Paper Mario: The Origami King?

In Paper Mario: The Origami King, there is one Shy Guy that appears drinking with a straw, and the articles have called it "Slurp Guy" just because of the straw. The name "Slurp Guy" does not appear anywhere in this game, so I really don't think we should use that name for it and keep all mentions of the name "Slurp Guy" restricted to Paper Mario: Color Splash, including on the Slurp Guy article itself. Does anyone else think so? Nightwicked Bowser

It's definitely meant as a callback to Color Splash, so I think we should at least mention it in the article, though maybe without calling it a Slurp Guy outright. Niiue - Who has lost his tail? 08:12, August 22, 2020 (EDT)

There is the name "Slurp Guy" present as a string in the game's data. I think it could be referring to this specific Shy Guy. Dino Rhinos also aren't referred to by name in-game, and yet are named in the text data. Scrooge200 (talk) 14:57, May 4, 2021 (EDT)

That could also be a left-over file from Color Splash. The Dino Rhino however is clearly meant to be a Dino Rhino. Nightwicked Bowser 15:04, May 4, 2021 (EDT)

It's in glossary.msbt, which contains names and such terms commonly used in-game. There's names for the Vellumentals, Legion of Stationary, TOK-exclusive areas, and no CS leftovers (the only other name that's in CS but not TOK is Poison Blooper). I can check the teahouse's scripts to see if this Shy Guy is given a specific name as well. Scrooge200 (talk) 15:08, May 4, 2021 (EDT)

Double-checked, here's some evidence:

• Japanese glossary.msbt contains the text "ストローヘイホー" labeled as "Name_HEIST". English equivalent text is Slurp Guy.
• Sprite names for Slurp Guys in CS are STHEI.bfres.lz; same initialism, but moved to a different place.
• The straw is a 3D model under the name P_HEI_Straw.bfres.zst. It still uses the regular Shy Guy textures, P_HEI.Red.bntx.zst.
• \data\map\W2G2_TeaRoom\dispos_Npc.elf.zst creates this character with the object name P_HEI_ITEM_01 and the shape P_HEI_Straw. For reference, the other Shy Guy in the room is P_HEI_01 and P_HEI. Scrooge200 (talk) 15:31, May 4, 2021 (EDT)

That looks very complicated to me, does that mean it's being labeled as a Slurp Guy or a Shy Guy? Nightwicked Bowser 16:04, May 4, 2021 (EDT)

It has the same name, the same filename initialism, and looks visually the same (a red Shy Guy drinking from a straw, except the straw is 3D). The Shy Guy being created specifically with the straw means that it is a part of the character as well, making it a Slurp Guy. Scrooge200 (talk) 16:31, May 4, 2021 (EDT)