Talk:Mousersaurus Rex

Merge this article to Mouser (The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!)

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It is said that Mousersaurus Rex is a dinosaur version of Mouser. But why should Mousersaurus Rex have its own article? It's basically an alias for Mouser himself. If Mousersaurus Rex should have its own article then maybe King Koopa's aliases, like Pirate Koopa or Darth Koopa should have their own articles as well. I suggest we merge this article to Mouser's article and include Mousersaurus Rex as an alias to Mouser himself.

Proposer: Char89Charizard (talk)
Deadline: October 10, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Char89Charizard (talk) Mouser's aliases shouldn't have their own articles. They're basically the same character, much like King Koopa is with his aliases. I don't remember seeing any other article about any of Mouser's or King Koopa's aliases.
2. Niiue (talk) Per proposal.

Oppose

1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) One's a Mouse, the other's a Dinosaur-Mouse. That's a big enough difference to me. Even moreso than Thunder Birdo. How is it an "alias" to be 70 times the normal size and of a different biological class?
2. Time Turner (talk) There's a very clear difference in appearance and behaviour between this guy and the regular Mouser, far more than King Koopa's alter egos. The show is hardly a stranger to one-off alternate forms, like the Shy Guy Lion and the Goomba Mummy; claiming that they are actually the exact same as their counterparts is speculation and nothing more.
3. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
4. LinkTheLefty (talk) This is more of a stand-in than an alias - the Toad character takes his book near the beginning of the episode, opens to Cowazaurus and then flips to Mouseraurus (which he audibly reads as "Mousersaurus Rex"), so it's supposed to be a documented species of Caveman Land.

Comments

@Doc: Not everything is revealed behind the scenes. Besides, Mousersaurus Rex has a face like Mouser's. He has hands like Mouser's. Heck he even has Mouser's signature sunglasses. Coincidence? I think not. And to top it off he follows Alley Koop, another alias of King Koopa. It's possible Alley Koop uses magic to turn Mouser into a dinosaur for that particular episode.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Char89Charizard (talk).

And it's possible that it's an entirely separate entity. Speculation is easy to do and ultimately meaningless. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 12:19, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

While we're on the subject of Mouser, why was the Super Show! version separated from the main article? It seems others like Toad and Tryclyde could've easily followed suit, so Mouser looks to be the odd one out. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:30, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

I think it stems from this discussion from 2007, and nobody's bothered to question it since. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 12:35, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

The point of the split probably was that Mouser is a Species and a character, much like Toad and (in Japan) Kamek. In the games it's seemingly a species, with the 8 bit games having a grey one with pink ears and a grey one with green ears, along with Doki Doki Panikku's white one with red ears. Also, there was a second Mouser in the Beanstalk episode, the character was commonly addressed as a specific individual, and then there's all the "mice" in that one Nintendo Comics System issue...I wouldn't have a problem splitting the DiC character articles from the main ones, like we did with the movie articles so long ago. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:05, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

Being individualized isn't necessarily enough to be worthy of having a separate article (note that the passed proposal's about the Mario Kart 7 Lakitu. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 13:20, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

Already read through that mess......how did Superstar Saga even.....gah. Although the other talk page you posted before had also noted Klump and Krusha, which could also be merged, particularly as Klump is referred to as "General Klump" in the DK64 manual... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:49, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

@LinkTheLefty: While you're right about Mousersaurus Rex being a documented species, but I still think he should be placed in Mouser's page. Besides, calling it a species is like calling Mouser a species and not by name. Also, wasn't the character credited as Mouser in the end credits of the episode? Char89Charizard (talk) 12:50, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

The end credits only name the character roles for the live action segments, not specific character voices. Also, as Doc mentioned above, Mouser was once shown as part of a species of "Mice" in the Nintendo Comics System. Really, I think the Super Show! and main Mouser articles should be reorganized into Mouser and Mouse (Nintendo Comics System); as far as I know there's no evidence for the "Mouser" species (on the contrary, the Japanese name, Don Churuge, indicates otherwise). LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:53, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

Well I still feel the Mousersaurus Rex article should merge with Mouser though. if its not the same character as a lot of you have claimed, it could at least be labeled as a subspecies or something, right? Char89Charizard (talk) 14:03, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

The wiki gives separate articles to derived and related species. There's a reason the species templates have so many links. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 14:06, 26 September 2017 (EDT)