Talk:List of allies

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I've honestly never liked the system of categorizing allies that's been in place. A character can be a considered an ally at the drop of a hat (which often includes being kind of helpful to the heroes at one point and being next to the heroes at one point, and more often than not they end up encompassing every supporting character that appears in a game. How that category should be dealt with is a problem for another time, but that really outlines why this page is pointless. The point of these major lists (games, species, items, etc.) is so that we can have a convenient and coherent list of basically every single element. However, what's the point of having a list that cherry-picks a handful of characters from the list of characters? It's retreading what doesn't need to be retread. I really don't see why a character that popped in once to help Mario is worthy of being separated-but-not-really into its own list. Everyone here is already listed on the list of characters, by the way, so it's not like it's unreasonable to have them there. The bottom line is, there's really no reason for this to be separate. Since everything here's already in the same condition on the larger list, simply deleting the list will work out.

Proposer: Time Turner (talk)
Deadline: October 8, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Delete

  1. Time Turner (talk) I support my proposal.

Not delete

  1. Toadbrigade5 (talk) 19:02, 24 September 2014 (EDT) per... oh wait I'm alone wah. But still I want to see all the allies.
  2. Mario (talk) This list helps filter allies to make them easier to find. We have a list of not only characters, but enemies, species, which all overlap in some way. Same goes for this list. Besides, allies, usually allied species, including Bob-omb Buddy, Board (Super Mario Galaxy), Helibird, Huffin' Puffin, and several others, are not on "List of characters", and I'd argue that critters such as Blitty go on this list, not on the characters list. You might as well merge allies, enemies, and species all into the characters list, which I don't really support. The bottom line: this list is not redundant and it serves its purpose meaningfully.

Comments

@Toadbriage5: Can you elaborate as to why you want to see them? Hello, I'm Time Turner.

"However, what's the point of having a list that cherry-picks a handful of characters from the list of characters?"

I wouldn't say this list is redundant with "Characters", as this list filters out the allies from the big general list. Besides, some allies, such as Bob-omb Buddy

All right, a select few of the already-select few are species. That's just reinforcing my point everything here's already elsewhere. Besides, why would you specifically need allies? In what situation would it be beneficial to have all of the friendly people separated and not just a part of the main collection? Also, why do allies get to be separate? What makes the very, very vague description of "possibly helped/was there at some point" worth making a whole list for? Hello, I'm Time Turner.
I don't understand how it's a "select few"; I can make only so many examples at a time, and I don't understand how it reinforces your point. My point I'm making is that this list and the list of characters don't overlap to the point where it's unnecessary, while your point is that it's redundant with "List of characters". I think it's necessary to have allies because it organizes characters the same way the list of enemies do. I consider this list to be the "List of enemies" counterpart, so removing this list would feel uneven. The description is vague, yes, but wouldn't enemies as well fall under a fairly vague definition? Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 21:34, 24 September 2014 (EDT)