Talk:Mario Kart Wii

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Mario Kart Wii Discussion Archives
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PAL to NTSC

Hello there everyone. :)

Now that I've got almost every character and nearly a * rank, I'm turning my attention to this article. I notice that PAL players have already got the basics down, but according to the Manual of Style, we must use NTSC as the main and mention any PAL differences as the side. This doesn't just affect DK's Snowboard Cross to DK Summit, mind you:

• Quite a few vehicles have different names: Rapide --> Zip Zip, Nitrocycle --> Sneakster, etc. Stats are still the same, though.
• Competitions on Mario Kart Wii channel are called Tournaments

I would think there are other small tidbits as well. If I could get some more NTSC players to find all the differences between this and the PAL version, that would be great. :) Wa _T^C_@^Y 11:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Argg! I have said it 2 times before and I will say it again. Use both the PAL and NTSC names. PAL names aren't less official than the NTSC names. If we use only NTSC names it will be confusing for PAL readers. And if we only use PAL names, it's confusing for NTSC readers. rend (talk) (edits)

I said NTSC as the primary names and PAL as the secondary. We can't treat them equally, but close to it is fine. Wa _T^C_@^Y 14:52, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

I agree using both names is MUCH better as this was one of the only european pages as everyday this site is becoming more of an american site than an american AND a european site we should do a vote to decide what to do BEFORE we take action Superluigigalaxy 18:43 8 May 2008

Finally, something has been done to deal with this. I think we should change the WiiVehicles template to NTSC naming. For PAL people, we can have a redirect. I've already seen a redirect from the Bon Bon to the Sugarscoot. That way, both can be happy. EnPeached 15:36, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

I think I have to agree with superluigigalaxy, because until something is officially chosen, the articles are going to keep on changing. I just saw someone add both names to the main article, and that really can't be done. Maybe we should make it a proposal? EnPeached 16:20, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

The new vehicle chart is a step in the right direction but having two versions of the chart for PAL and NTSC is not gonna work. Names are the only difference, and the two big obnoxious charts is a lot of extra space for a simple difference of naming. Wholahay 15:56, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Tricks? Stunts?

What are they called in the game & manual in English? My version only knows stunts. The article seems to know both. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:13, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

They're called tricks :) EnPeached 16:18, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

I checked back my German manual and it still reads "Stunts". Maybe add a note to PAL difference and use "Tricks" on the other parts of the article. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:21, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

Tricks, stunts both have nearly the same meaning. I don't think we need to go out of our way just the note that.Knife (talk) 12:29, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

I lost you in the second sentence. What should we do exactly? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 12:33, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

Do nothing. Its fine to use them interchangeably.Knife (talk) 14:51, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

twinkle stars an item?

when i clicked on the twinkle star i came up as the shooting star "item", can someone tell me why this has been done please! Superluigigalaxy

Sounds like you are referring to the pipe trick. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 05:32, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

-- 19:55, 12 May 2008 (EDT) Baby Luigi:Unlock 8 Expert Staff Ghost, but like!!? I do not understand!

It means that eight of the staff records for Time Trial must be unlocked, but I'm not sure how you unlock those. Stumpers! 23:22, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

-- 16:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT) Thanks stumpers!

-- 16:33, 13 May 2008 (EDT)Hello!, well, and the mode: Bob-omb Blast of Mario Kart Double Dash!!, return in Mario Kart Wii?

Not that I am aware. Stumpers! 23:22, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

-- 16:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT) uummm..

There are two kinds of Staff Ghosts, Juniors and Experts. After you select a course on Time Trials, you can see your Ghost and the Junior SG. If you get a certain time, which is about 4 seconds faster than the Junior SG on most courses, it will say "You have unlocked an Expert Staff Ghost". If it says that, the Junior SG will be replaced by the Expert SG. And it doesn't mark the courses where you got an Expert SG. And the only Battle Modes are Coin Runners and Balloon Battle Freekhenstra

-- 16:44, 14 May 2008 (EDT)Aahh,is easy!.

-- 16:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT)Oh buuu, I like the mode: Bomb-omb Blast,mmmm, well, Thanks, thanks, boys!!

Trivia

I'm putting this up EARLY, cuz I see a horrible edit/flame war coming up between Garlic Man and ForeverDaisy09. Talk it out here before you choose to start an edit war. My Bloody Valentine

Size classes America-only?

I checked the manual, and I checked the game, and they both use Light - Medium - Heavy for me. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 11:45, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

No. The manual uses the weight-class system. But when I played the game and I unlockt a kart or bike, it said for example You have unlockt the Large kart Aero Glider. rend (talk) (edits)

Read the title. My version, the European one, definitely uses weight classes, in manual and the unlock screens. I figure that the weight classes were changed to size classes in the American version, which was released later on. This would also explain why the manual uses weight classes nevertheless. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 17:35, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

Yes – on unlock screens it says "You unlocked a small size kart, the Blue Falcon". Wa _T^C_@^Y 17:49, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

Please note, Cobold, that Arend is European. :| My Bloody Valentine

But from where in Europe? Stumpers! 17:56, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

I am Dutch (Nederlands). But in almost every Nintendo game (and all Mario games), there isn't Dutch language option. The game uses the English language. rend (talk) (edits)

Gotcha. Thanks very much! So what we might be looking at is that the English language versions use the big/little classes. I wonder if just German version uses the classic system or if the French/Spanish/etc. versions do, too? Stumpers! 14:10, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

My version says that I have unlocked the "Blue Falcon (Leicht)". The game uses Leicht, Mittel and Schwer, which definitely translate to Light, Middleweight and Heavy and not to size classes. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 14:26, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Don't worry, I wasn't doubting you! :) Stumpers! 17:46, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

If you change the language of the Wii, the language of the games change too (I don't know if it works on American Wii's). There are 3 language options (6 on PAL Wii's). English, French, Spanich, (German, Italian and Dutch). It's only possible to choose the Japanese language on JP Wii's. You can change language in the Wii option menu. rend (talk) (edits)

Staff Ghosts

Shouldn't we make a table for the normal staff ghosts and the expert staff ghosts? The staff ghosts were listed in Mario Kart DS, I think we should list them here unless we list them on the courses' main articles. Is this a good idea? EnPeached 21:37, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I think they fit best on this page. We should list the driver and time of the junior staff ghost, the unlock time for the expert staff ghost and the driver and the time of the expert staff ghost itself. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 13:17, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

We should also list what kart/bike they use. The kart/bike that the staff use is different for the juniors and the experts, although the character stays the same. Also, I'm not quite sure how to find out the unlock time because usually you have to get about 5 seconds more (just an average), but none of it is exact. Should they be combined with the courses, or have their own section? EnPeached 13:21, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

There should be a separate section for the ghosts. Also, some people at GameFAQs (scroll far down) seem to have found the unlock times. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 15:42, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

That's actually just the time they got. I did some of the ghosts with a time that wasn't as fast and I still unlocked the fast ghost. EnPeached 18:49, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

I've actually already started work on a normal staff and expert staff table. The unlock times shouldn't be included because they aren't real times. Those are just the times the person who made the faq got. EnPeached 20:55, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, the unlock times on the faq aren't official or exact in any way. I got worse times on some courses, but still unlocked it. I think a table with the normal times and expert times, along with the character and bike/kart, and the driver's name would be sufficient.Marcelagus (T • C • E)

Don't do unlock times, they are all subjective right now. It would take a poll of thousands of drivers (who actually remembered their unlock times) to narrow it down. Wa _T^C_@^Y 10:59, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

I just finished the tables, but the section I made probably needs alot of editing EnPeached 20:11, 24 May 2008 (EDT)