Talk:Crystal Stars

(First topic)

I don't think that all of the Crystal Stars need their own article. We should merge all of them into this article. Master Lucario The Aura is with me...

Was about to propose this myself. Each of the individual Crystal Star articles are about the same length and don't offer anything notable save when and where they're found, as well as a picture. Grouping them all here makes more sense, since they're not characters like the Star Spirits and barely even count as items. Redstar 08:29, 19 December 2009 (EST)

/* Very annoying */

Someone keeps removing the other fact of the Garnet Star from it's page.

The fact that is removed is that all of the Crystal Stars have the name of a Pokemon game, besides the Garnet Star.

The Diamond Star later shares the name of Pokemon Diamond, a game that came out in 2007. The Emerald Star later shares the name of Pokemon Emerald, a game that came out in 2005. The Gold Star shares the name of Pokemon Gold. The Ruby Star and the Sapphire Star share the names of Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire. The Crystal Star shares the name of Pokemon Crystal.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Diddy Kong vs Bowser Jr. (talk).

Merge the 7 CRYSTAL Stars into Crystal Stars

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no merge 1-11
If you were to look at each of the pages for the crystal stars, you'll see that they all contain pretty much the same info: which number it is, where it is found/how you get it, what special move it teaches, and what the move does. if you'll do some poking around, however, you'll see that every bit of this, save some minor, barely significant details and trivia, can be found somewhere else on the wiki. Therefore, I dont believe that these are deserving of their own article, unless some more information can be pulled together that is not here now.

Proposer: Iamthedude (talk)
Deadline: August 12th, 2011, 23:59 (UTC)

Merge

1. Flaming Pianta The seperate crystal star articles are limited in what they say and each article has to be accesed seperatly. I vote to merge

Keep seperate

1. Toad85 I want to do the exact opposite. I want to move the information from Crystal Stars to the other stars, and make this page a disambugation page.
2. Reversinator (talk) Different items with different uses, different locations, and different looks, deserve different pages.
3. Zero777 (talk) Though I would of like to do that, per Reversinator.
4. Goomba's Shoe15 (talk) Per All
5. Reddragon19k (talk) Stay there and that's... PER ALL!
6. Mario4Ever (talk) Per the fact that individual Star Spirits have their own articles. To clarify, they have different names and grant different powers which require differing amounts of Star Power to use, just as the Crystal Stars do. Sorry, but my logic on the Giant Banana proposal does not apply here.
7. BoygeyMario (talk) Per All! :)
8. Tails777 (talk) Sorry, but after reading the comments, I'm changing my vote.
9. mario Bros.! (talk) Per ALL
10. PyroGuy6 (talk) stay seperate and that's that.
11. Bowser's luma (talk) Per all.

Comments

Reversinator, I know that they are different items, but it's like Mario4Ever said in the Giant Banana Proposal (let's just ignore for now the fact that I voted against that logic before, I had my reasons..) There aren't many significant details any of the subjects in question, and most, if not all, of them can be found elsewhere on the wiki. that's why Giant banana is currently merged to banana, and for consistency's sake, I say that THAT is why this proposal should be passed. Iamthedude

The Crystal Stars all have specific names, need certain amount of star power to use, and all have different abilities also (this also goes to Tails777). The pure hearts do not have specific names as far as just their color and they cannot be used in a battle of any sort. Zero777 (talk)

Alright, I see the point. you people are right, this is unnecessary. I'm removing my vote. However, I do still think the only thing seperating these from the pure hearts is that they grant special moves upon their recovery. Iamthedude

Pokemon reference?:

anyone notice the paper mario series is full of pokemon references: petalburg the crystal stars (diamond, crystal, ruby, sapphire, emerald) the star pieces look like revoves and several others i cannot name at this time
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meekl24 (talk).

Petalburg shares the name of a town, but the crystal stars' material isn't really an influence. For your information, Pokemon Diamond came after this game. I don't know what a Revove is, so I can't answer that. Otherwise, I don't see it being "full of Pokemon references".
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 19:35, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

Merge the Crystal Stars, revisited.

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So, I stumbled across this page earlier, and noticed the fact that we have pages for both the Crystal Stars as a whole, as well as every single Crystal Star found in the game, which feels somewhat excessive, as well as being highly inconsistent with our treatment of the other plot Mac-guffins found in this series. ...Well, perhaps the Streamers from PMTOK aren't quite the same thing, but I digress.

One of the reasons for this, as mentioned in the original proposal from 2011 is "the fact that individual Star Spirits have their own articles. To clarify, they have different names and grant different powers which require differing amounts of Star Power to use, just as the Crystal Stars do." But I think that, with 15 years of hindsight, the Star Spirits are the exception, rather than the standard. Unlike most collectibles in the Mario RPGs, The Star Spirits have:

• Appeared in more than one game. (Not counting ports and remakes.)
• Noticeably different appearances, personalities, and are also sentient characters. To quote one user from an even older discussion: "Grouping [the Crystal Stars] here makes more sense, since they're not characters like the Star Spirits and barely even count as items."
• Had differing roles and functions during one of their appearances. Specifically, their roles in Mario Party 5 as the "Star Guards."

Most of that cannot be said for the Crystal Stars.* Now, you could also argue that the different powers they give Mario would easily merit them receiving separate pages... except for the fact that each of those abilities also have pages of their own now, so that counterargument doesn't quite hold up against this issue.

Most of the info on the Stars' individual pages feel like they could just as easily be covered on this article with a bit of reworking, so I think it may be time to reconsider the state of these shiny Star-shaped stones. Any thoughts or objections? (*Allegedly, Super Mario-kun depicts the Crystal Stars as "characters" unlike their sole game appearance, but from what little info I could find on this wiki, that situation may be more analogous to the Big Paint Stars than the Star Spirits.) Wandering Poplin (talk) 00:57, April 19, 2026 (UTC)

I disagree. There is a lot more info on each individual Crystal Star than the other objects listed, plus they have actual names and abilities tied to them. Technetium (talk) 17:47, April 21, 2026 (UTC)

Also note that many of the arguments listed before are outdated now, since more info has been added in the years since. I see no issue with covering the Crystal Stars on one page along with a brief summary of their history, then getting into more details and names in other languages and gallery images on their own pages. It's not like these pages are 3 sentences long or anything. Technetium (talk) 17:50, April 21, 2026 (UTC)

What makes the Crystal Stars special compared to the other plot-relevant collectibles in the franchise, then? As far as I can tell, aside from the Star Spirits, no other story-progressing items like this have received this kind of treatment on this wiki. I do not feel that any of the individual Crystal Star articles are (currently) covering any information which couldn't just as easily be mentioned here instead.

I also don't see why we need 8 different articles for what is effectively the same subject, plus an additional 8 articles for the special moves they grant Mario in combat. (Specifically, Sweet Treat**, Earth Tremor, Clock Out, Power Lift, Art Attack, Sweet Feast, Showstopper, and Supernova.)

(**Granted, Sweet Treat is a move granted by the Magical Map, rather than a Crystal Star.) Wandering Poplin (talk) 18:46, April 21, 2026 (UTC)

Names and abilities, as was said before. That's more than can be said of the Star Pieces, Beanstar parts, Cobalt Star parts, Pure Hearts, Star Cures, Royal Stickers, Big Paint Stars, Streamers, etc. Also, for that matter, we split the Ultibed parts, which are also all separately named. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:07, April 21, 2026 (UTC)

The fact that the Stars all have separate names is a factor I'd largely glossed over when writing. It's certainly an unusual situation compared to their typical naming schemes for these kinds of subjects. But on the other hand, those names are generally only used in the menus, and these subjects are more primarily referred to as "Crystal Stars" in most of the game's writing. (As far as I can remember.)

As for the part about their "abilities", I'd already mentioned how their gameplay-related powers already have separate articles, so I don't believe that resolves regarding the Crystal Star articles themselves.

There is the matter of their story-related powers, which were not mentioned in any of the above sections. However... those powers are very interchangeable. From what I've seen, no individual Crystal Star in the game has a specific story-related power in the game which one of the others six don't. (With the possible exception of the Gold Star, but even that situation is a bit ambiguous.) Wandering Poplin (talk) 06:34, April 22, 2026 (UTC)

If I'm being honest… I think you're overthinking this. There's nothing wrong with having multiple pages like this inherently, and trying to combine them just to be "consistent" could just lead to issues. Technetium (talk) 11:00, April 22, 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps you're right, but I personally feel that having 15 different articles for the Crystal Stars is a bit excessive. What are we covering in the article for Crystal Star (In this case, I'm referring to the singular object, not all seven as a whole) which couldn't be covered on this page instead? Wandering Poplin (talk) 16:44, April 22, 2026 (UTC)

I just don't see what the issue in having multiple pages is. Plus, names in other languages would be a mess for a combined page imo, at the very least. Technetium (talk) 18:26, April 22, 2026 (UTC)