User talk:Henry Tucayo Clay

Welcome to my page! -- TUCAYO 18:15, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

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Please refrain from posting lots of images. I used to answer messages on others' talk pages but I found out it makes following/referencing past conversations more trouble than it should be, so I will answer all messages here. Thanks.

Bundle Stuff

Hey Tucayo, I have a question, when a character is announced to appear in an upcoming game, why do we wait till it's released before we add it. What would be the difference between adding it now or when it's released. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 00:32, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

What specifically are you talking about? --™ The 'Shroom 19:50, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

An example is like when y'know how when Paper Jam was nearly released some users put down Starlow's latest appearance as that game, why do we just wait till the game is realeased before changing the latest appearance. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 19:54, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Oh, OK. We wait because technically nothing is definitive until the game is actually released. --™ The 'Shroom 20:00, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Help:Signature

Thanks for updating the signature pages, while you're at it could you maybe change the colours on the "Usage" table in the page? It's hard on the eyes and almost impossible to read with white text on a yellow background. driftmaster130 (Talk • Edits) 20:02, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Sure thing. --™ The 'Shroom 20:05, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Mario Party 2

In light of your recent proposal, what are you planning to do with the minigames from Mario Party 2, which includes TOAD in the Box, TOAD Bandstand, BOB-OMB Barrage, Hot BOB-OMB, and BOWSER's Big Blast? I'm just curious as to what you're planning. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

I would like to move them as well, to be honest. I don't have MP2 so I can't see the in-game context of those being stylized like that or if it's just meaningless as with the boards in my proposal. If it's just random stylization, then I would be very inclined to move them. --™ The 'Shroom 21:32, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Judging by this video, the minigames use the stylized titles when played as normal and when the minigame is selected from the menu (and presumably when it shows up in other modes, such as Mini-Game Coaster and Mini-Game Battle). The Prima guide also uses the stylized names, which you can deem as important as you need it to be. I also agree with you on the random stylization: it kinda seems like they're capitalizing the names of enemies and characters, but other minigames like Shy Guy Says or Bowser Slots don't follow the same rule. One thing I didn't notice until after I linked to it: Hot Bob-omb didn't actually get moved alongside the other minigames, which is a big oversight that you could bring up in a proposal. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

It's so inconsistent I would like to move them all to regular capitalization, but I don't know if I can do that based on my proposal or if some more consensus would be needed. I think the reason Hot Bob-omb is there is because it was written like that in MP1, which is still against our policy since we should use the most recent name and that would be Hot BOB-OMB. It's funny because in that article, the capitalization on MP2 is just disregarded as a stylization and it takes Hot Bob-omb as the actual name. --™ The 'Shroom 21:58, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Personally, while the circumstances are slightly different (board vs. minigame, fully stylized vs. partially stylized), I wouldn't disagree with you if you wanted to use the former proposal as justification. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

I'll check with the admin team to see if I can go ahead and move them. --™ The 'Shroom 22:12, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Protecting Mario Party (series)

Should Mario Party (series) be protected? So far, three anons have made the same false info edit. (And now that I think about it, I guess it was unnecessary for me to block them since you can just protect the page anyway...) Mario JC

I'm not trying to sound rude here but you're a Patroller, can't you protect it yourself? The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 04:23, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

Only sysops can do that. Mario JC

That IP is clearly Fidel. CrashBash (talk) 11:59, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

Yeah, protection would be best. The block is good since they were doing ban-worthy stuff anyway. --™ The 'Shroom 15:40, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

Vandal warnings

I issued a warning to ErrorBuzzerSound2565 (talk) because they blanked a page and then restored it; I couldn't tell if it was trolling or just done as a one-time joke but went with the latter (benefit of doubt). I know that particular user was blocked as a sockpuppet but in that type of case (quick vandalism then revert) are you just supposed to leave them to get blocked? --driftmaster130 (Talk • Edits) 17:27, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

Yes The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 17:29, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

I'd appreciate if you'd let admins answer questions about admin stuff. Yes, users who join just to vandalize are always to be immediately blocked. --™ The 'Shroom 21:13, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

Proposal

Hey Tucayo. I want to have a proposal but it's for two pages, what do I do instead of just having the same proposal on two pages. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 23:01, 22 June 2016 (EDT)

Have it on MarioWiki:Proposals as one proposal, as long as the changes to both pages are of the same nature. --™ The 'Shroom 23:15, 22 June 2016 (EDT)

On an unlikely note, what would happen if the proposal was a tie like there were 7 supporters and 7 opposers. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 18:59, 23 June 2016 (EDT)

It gets extended for a week. It can be extended up to three times before it's declared as a tie. --™ The 'Shroom 19:07, 23 June 2016 (EDT)

Hey Tucayo many people say my proposal isn't very thought out, how can I make my future ones better. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 20:30, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

There's no simple guide to make good proposals. First off, it's indeed vague. You need to explain in more detail why the change is better. You also need to cover all possible consequences of the proposal, such as inconsistency issues. Take a look at articles that have a similar situation and then see if the change makes sense. --™ The 'Shroom 21:39, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

Sockpuppet

I spotted a sockpuppet of many different accounts: KevinSquidy000 (talk). There have been many KevinSquidys before so could you please check his/her IP. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 22:45, 24 June 2016 (EDT)

Image

Hey Tucayo is it okay if I upload a new version of File:Gnaw1.jpg I am 98% certain that mine is better. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 00:32, 27 June 2016 (EDT)

I assume you mean File:Gnaw1.JPG? Please use your better judgement. That image has very poor quality, so it can be definitely improved. --™ The 'Shroom 00:37, 27 June 2016 (EDT)

Though mine is actually png so should I just upload it separately? The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 00:39, 27 June 2016 (EDT)

Yes. --™ The 'Shroom 00:39, 27 June 2016 (EDT)

The image that Fawful's Minion (talk) uploaded is bigger and a little bit better, but has a factor of blurriness to it. File:Gnaw.png A better version can still be uploaded. I am almost never fond of using YouTube or similar as a source. Pretty sure it should be tagged with {{image-quality}}. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 17:04, 27 June 2016 (EDT)

How's this screenshot Gabumon (talk) took? --™ The 'Shroom 18:49, 27 June 2016 (EDT)

Userpedia:File:MvsFF 2 07 11.png It's better but not entirely the best replacement we can do. There's significantly less blur to that image but still a little bit though and there is some jaggedness to it. It's best to be retaken in the latest version of Dolphin (5.0 was just released a few days ago). I've been experimenting with graphical settings and my sandbox screenshot page could use some updates to get even better screenshots than ever before. Where did Gabumon (talk) get that image? Also, what is the purpose of Userpedia? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 00:34, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

Never mind. I went to GameFAQs and downloaded a "powersave" and then converted it with sq-dps (GBATemp) to be readable by either my Wii or Wii emulator. Problem solved. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 01:13, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

I think Edo took it himself but I don't know the specifics. Userpedia is a wiki for user fiction and other types of works that wouldn't fit in the MarioWiki. --™ The 'Shroom 21:39, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

The 'Shroom

Hi Tucayo, I sent an application for The 'Shroom, did you have received it? I think I forgot to mention that I would like a confirmation in my message. --^(TALK) 22:00, 29 June 2016 (EDT)

I did get it, thanks. I'm sorry, I usually confirm receipt on every message but I was on a rush and I forgot. Your application is now being reviewed. --™ The 'Shroom 22:07, 29 June 2016 (EDT)

Languages

Hello how many different languages can a user view this wiki in because I do know how to speak two languages (Macedonian and Chinese). The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 16:50, 3 July 2016 (EDT)

I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. The wiki and the content can just be seen in English. We have a German and an Italian affiliate (links found on sidebar). --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Protect or Block

Hi, can you please block the IP or protect Green Fire, because the same IP always make the same nonsense edit and change the Green Fire from a middleweight Kart to a Lightweight Kart. Maybe both would be a good idea. --^(TALK) 20:06, 3 July 2016 (EDT)

Beaten to it :P --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Signature proposal

I know it's been a while since my proposal passed but I'm wondering why you decided to make a strong point of "encourage" instead of "mandatory". The signature guidelines already said that a datestamp is encouraged so that action would make the proposal ineffective. The proposal's goal was that a new rule should be added (maybe it wasn't clear enough in the proposal itself but I did say multiple times in the comments) making the timestamp (which, I don't see why is a big deal, it's not that hard to set up or can be inputted manually) a requirement for signatures, and that it would be enforced like any other signature rule (e.g. images, text, etc.) and would warrant an informal message at most, not a warning. With all of this, why did you choose to keep it toned down? I'm just curious over this; the current situation is perfectly fine and I'm not demanding to add that but I just want to know why the "enforce" part was quickly shot down. driftmaster130 (Talk • Edits) 20:32, 3 July 2016 (EDT)

It's basically still a requisite but it's how I preferred it to be worded and seemingly how most other people did as well. I didn't like making it strictly mandatory to have a datestamp but rather make it strongly encouraged. A matter of semantics, if you'd like. --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Ah ok, thanks. By "strongly", though, does that mean important but still not enough to warrant an official rule? driftmaster130 (Talk • Edits) 21:34, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

What specifically did you have in mind? Rule 4 already mentions signatures should be followed by a datestamp. --™ The 'Shroom 21:51, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Exactly that; I didn't notice the specific at the end of Rule 4. driftmaster130 (Talk • Edits) 21:56, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

romanization of Japanese names

I found that editors sometimes come up with different romanizations for Japanese names that include kanji. For example, ゴツゴツ山 could either read "gotsugotsu san" or "gotsugotsu yama" -- both are correct. Does the wiki distinguish "ゴツゴツ山 gotsugotsu yama", which means Nintendo has specified a reading of the kanji and the romanization is done accordingly, from "ゴツゴツ山 gotsugotsu yama", which means the romanization is conjectural?

By the way, when making edits like this, is it a good idea to upload a screenshot as a "proof"? A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 22:02, 3 July 2016 (EDT)

It's not officially distinguished but it's good you are doing it that way to there is no doubt as to the romanization. It could be implemented in MarioWiki:Japanese so that other editors start doing that.

It wouldn't hurt to have a source backing that up so that other editors know where it's coming from. --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Thanks. By the way, when should there be parenthesized Japanese name following the English name in the intro text? I'm confused as the Mario article doesn't have it but the Luigi one does. A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 02:53, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

There's no solid guideline but the best would be if articles had it in the same manner as Luigi. --™ The 'Shroom 11:28, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

Um... what about articles like this? If there isn't any etymological relationship between the English and the Japanese names, should the Japanese name still stay that way or be moved down to its foreignname section? A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 11:40, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

If there is no relationship at all, I'd say move it down. Take note, this is only my take on it. Maybe a discussion on MarioWiki talk:Japanese could give us more opinions. --™ The 'Shroom 11:49, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

Old User Personal Pages

PrincessJojora (talk) has three personal pages that don't serve MarioWiki. I only noticed this as I was replacing Super Paper Mario images. Should those pages be deleted? There could be more, but I could only find three when typing User:PrincessJojora into the search box. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 20:41, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

They should indeed be deleted, yeah. They are indeed the only such pages. --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:54, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Fantastic! Thanks for deleting those pages. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 20:55, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Pages

• User:PrincessJojora/Kidnapped
• User:PrincessJojora/Fleepsa Characters
• User:PrincessJojora/Fleepsa

Shroom Images and Not Unused Images

Remember a while back how I said some images tagged with {{shroom-image}} and images tagged with {{not-unused}} were showing up in Special:UnusedFiles (probably unintended), reducing that special page's usefulness? YoshiKong (talk) implemented an ingenious way to fix that problem! See our talk pages to find out how the problem was solved. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 17:44, 6 July 2016 (EDT)

Yes! I remember it and I actually was recalling it when I saw YK and 22's solution; I'm glad it could be done! It goes to show all the things one can do in MediaWiki. --™ The 'Shroom 21:19, 6 July 2016 (EDT)

Forum PM

Hi Tucayo! I send you a PM on the forum about the suggestions that you send me with the message about my applications. I made some changes and I would like if you can look at this. Thanks! :) --^(TALK) 23:27, 10 July 2016 (EDT)

Hi! I actually just replied :) --™ The 'Shroom 00:07, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

Hi! Sorry to disturb you again, I give you a new PM. :) --^(TALK) 19:06, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

Replied :) --™ The 'Shroom 20:51, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

Appealing Archive Warnings

Hey Tucayo I have a question, can you appeal warnings on archives. I personally feel I didn't deserve one of the warnings (definitely not the one you gave me) but another one, I checked both the warning and courtesy policies thrice and it isn't mentioned anywhere for the action I did, even though it's archived can I still appeal it as it wasn't deserved. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 03:40, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

Yes, you can appeal those as well. --™ The 'Shroom 15:53, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

Who Cares About Outdoors When You Can Write Your Pipe Plaza Section?

Hi, Henry Tucayo Clay! Hello there! Please be sure to get your sections done and sent to me through either the forums or my email by July 16. If you need more time or aren't able to send your section in and you have a valid reason for doing so, please let me know!! We'll work something out. If you have any questions, do let me know as well! Enjoy the month~ Zange

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Vandal IP?

Special:Contributions/73.143.232.75 --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 19:05, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

This IP is at it again. The block is still enforced but the IP slipped through. This is weird. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 21:34, 12 July 2016 (EDT)

Got it, thanks. --™ The 'Shroom 21:36, 12 July 2016 (EDT)

Giant Bowser and Giant Luigi

I have a quick question why is it Giant Bowser is a redirect to Bowser but Giant Luigi is it's own article? Shouldn't They both be split or merged either way doesn't really matter but it is just bizarre seeing this. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 22:27, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

From what I can gather, there's not enough info about Giant Bowser as of now. Should there be enough info to put together an article, it should be split as well. --™ The 'Shroom 22:35, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

Main Images in Infoboxes

I noticed an IP changed the image of two pages on the Infoboxes for their respective articles. Back before when the other M&Ls came out we didn't change it (did we)? So the question is does the image in the infobox have to originate from the main series only or can it be like cartoon images as well? The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 18:07, 12 July 2016 (EDT)

Main series images are better as they are more representative. --™ The 'Shroom 21:30, 12 July 2016 (EDT)

IP adding false information

I just saw an IP add false information on two pages here is the said IP. (108.30.53.16) EDIT: I already told him to stop. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 18:31, 13 July 2016 (EDT)

There's no point in telling them since they're just random vandals, it's best to just go straight to an admin. --™ The 'Shroom 21:35, 13 July 2016 (EDT)

Edit File For Me

I was going to edit File:NintendoClassicNES UK.jpg by inserting Category:Nintendo Entertainment System Images, but it is protected. Please do it for me? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 14:51, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

Sure thing. --™ The 'Shroom 15:18, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

Thanks! --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 16:39, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

Why, yes!

I know I have to do that! Is there any page whose information I forgot to update, regarding my moving an article's name to another? In this case, I am sorry for my lack of attention. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 06:25, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

Skeleton (enemy) and Squid. Don't worry, it happens :) --™ The 'Shroom 11:28, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

Recent Issue

The user DEJAPIERRE (talk) has been adding unnecessary (final appearance) trivia mainly on this page. Most of his edit history consists of adding that same trivia about it being the final appearance of a character in the game, the main article he's been doing this to is Mario Party 7, he did it to more earlier just so you can see here is a list of his contributions. I gave him a reminder earlier telling him to stop but he did it again a month later, he's also targeted Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 16:30, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

He hasn't done it since you last told him about it so there's nothing that should be done. --™ The 'Shroom 17:54, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

Anonymous Vandal 2

I saw an anonymous person vandalize an important template here is the IP 97.92.33.126 The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 18:31, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

Done. --™ The 'Shroom 19:19, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

Green Fire

You wanna protect the Green Fire page or something? Anonymous users keep changing it to be a lightweight when it very clearly isn't... EDIT: Seems it was protected earlier, but it expired. 15:51, 19 July 2016 (EDT)