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Status: Back to normal from the 23rd.

I am a current wiki bureaucrat and 'Shroom staff member.
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Tuesday, January 24th 2017, 02:56 (GMT)
Monday, January 23rd 2017, 21:56 (EST/EDT)


I've been thinking that the wiki could hold a contest to design a brand new logo for the Super Mario Wiki. It's a new year, and as far as I know, the current logo is the only one to ever be used (again, as far as I know). --EldritchdraaksSig.png TCS 02:08, 3 January 2017 (EST)

We've actually had this logo previously to our current one (I think it was changed about eight years ago). Anyway, it would depend entirely on whether there is enough community interest to change it again. Recently, the banners at MarioWiki:Maintenance and MarioWiki:Proposals have been redesigned, due to the strong community interest at the wiki's forums (see here and here). So I think that any pitch to change the wiki's logo would require that same involvement. If you wanted to pursue it, then I'd suggest bringing up within the "general discussion" topic on the forum's collaboration board. Because ultimately, the admins wouldn't really organise it without that pre-momentum from the community. – Shokora 06:04, 3 January 2017 (EST)
I'm not really the type of person that can handle building momentum, i.e. I'm not a leader; I nearly didn't do the bestiary proposal. Someone else should head to the forums for this, not me. What were the circumstances around changing the logo the first time? I also came up with a couple of design logos: Imgur (I like the second one more). --EldritchdraaksSig.png TCS 15:00, 3 January 2017 (EST)
I'm not sure on the process of how the last logo was changed, I wasn't even around that far back. Your logos are nice; it would just be a matter of you asking people for their yay/nay opinion on them, and then tending to any suggestions for improvement. And then if there was enough support from other people, then perhaps they would be willing to help you take it further. – Shokora 07:24, 4 January 2017 (EST)
Is it too late to add on The 'Shroom under Discussions Seeking Input that there's an ongoing discussion about the wiki logo?

Not at all! I'll update it once I get home. – Shokora 20:12, 21 January 2017 (EST)

Thank you! It's important that it gets recognition. Right now, almost everyone over there has said they support the mushroom logo design.--EldritchdraaksSig.png TCS 20:23, 21 January 2017 (EST)

Done. – Shokora 07:09, 22 January 2017 (EST)

a whatchamacallit term...[edit]

Hi. Do you happen to know if there is a term for an easy-to-recognize concept in RPG games? It's this: when the player moves in the field, usually the camera moves as the player does, but sometimes the camera stops moving when the player reaches the edge of a certain kind of region, and if the player crosses the region, the screen turns black and then resumes with the player in the next. (In Partners in Time, the Lakitu cameraman speaks of "rooms", but this doesn't always work. In Bowser's Inside Story, such regions are denoted by rectangles on the map and uncovered one by one.) Does "screen" work, or maybe there is a better word for such "regions"? --A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 10:23, 3 January 2017 (EST)

I've asked around, and it seems that the smaller, split-up areas within RPG games are appropriately referred to as "chunks". And I think the action of darkening the camera when moving from one chunk to another could just be called a "transition". – Shokora 07:51, 4 January 2017 (EST)


Sure! I wasn't aware at all that you are working on those articles. Sorry for that! Also, what do you think of Horned Toady? Is it written well? -- Super Radio

Alright, I listened to your suggestions. Said and done. Thanks! -- Super Radio
Also, let me know when you finish your work on VBWL. I am curious too see the results because there's so much content from that game that has missed coverage on the wiki... -- Super Radio

Deletion of Upload Wars (Continued)[edit]

You never got around to deleting a lot of the file history for these files before archiving the discussion! Also both the edit history and file history of File:Pnp-logo.png need removal of certain edits pertaining to piracy websites. I think it is against policy to link to or reference such locations on the internet. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:52, 4 January 2017 (EST)

I'm sorry about that! I'll get around to them as soon as I can. – Shokora 00:24, 5 January 2017 (EST)
It's fine. We all forget to do something occasionally. Thanks for getting it done. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:46, 5 January 2017 (EST)

File:SM64 BitDW M25.png - Megadardery (talk) reverted once. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 18:47, 8 January 2017 (EST)

A few mistakes on Help and Mariowiki pages[edit]

There are two pages that have mistakes and I can't edit them because they are protected so only admins can edit so I want you to fix them. In Help:CSS, in the last section it says If you want to add comments (text that the CSS won't read), put it inbetween /* and */. There should be a space in between inbetween. In Mariowiki:Bots, you will find that there should be the letter s after the word email at the end (the second email). Mr Squid sig.PNG Mr squid Talk Edits 10:00, 5 January 2017 (EST)

Thanks for pointing those out! They've been corrected. – Shokora 08:03, 6 January 2017 (EST)

RE:Shadoo Reversion[edit]

Ah, okay. Yeah, Glowsquid (talk) explained that pretty well. The section was removed back in May and wasn't undone since until yesterday. I saw it as a bunch of speculation as none of it is truly confirmed, but there does seem to be a significant amount of backstory to this, doesn't there? Apologies for all the confusion. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.pngPower Master Logo.png 12:41, 6 January 2017 (EST)

RE: Super Mario Galaxy game guide[edit]

Hey! There's no enemy list in the SMG1 guide (at least for the Premiere Edition; not sure about the Collector's Edition), so I had to look through the levels they appeared in to see if they'd mention "Metallic Goombas" or "Octobeetles". So far, I haven't found any mentions of these two names (The RPG Gamer (talk) added the "Octobeetle" name; might want to ask him when his block expires), but I did find these:

  • "Watch out for the robot Goombas on the planetoid's surface. Mario can spin to knock these little menaces into the black hole or tip them over with a stomp on the unguarded underbelly to earn a coin." (pg. 83; level is Bowser Jr.'s Robot Reactor)
  • "These robots wander around a warp pipe. Spin to knock the robots on their backs, then stomp their vulnerable undercarriages." (pg. 268; level is Dreadnought Galaxy)

The Buoy Base Galaxy section doesn't seem to mention them at all. If I do run into any of those two names, or if there are any more levels they're found in that come to mind, I'll let you know.

As for Kingfin, the guide does indeed only refer to it as "the Bonefin" (odd considering the mission is called "Kingfin's Fearsome Waters"). Some references:

  • "When Mario splashes down on the planet, the Bonefin swims into view." (pg. 248)
  • "After Mario lands two hits on the Bonefin, the behemoth calls in reinforcements." (pg. 248)
  • "After landing the fifth hit on Bonefin, the leviathan crumbles and all his skeletal minions disappear." (pg. 249)

Hope this helps! SMB Smallmario.png Mario JC 07:03, 7 January 2017 (EST)

Found one of them!
  • "Watch out for the metallic Goombas on the twin discs. They'll try to needle Mario as he explores the area." (pg. 104; level is Battlerock Galaxy)
There doesn't seem to be one definitive name for it, as the guide goes back and forth exclusively between names with generic descriptors like "robot" and "metallic". (Also on the same page: "Robotic Goombas wander the discs, complicating Mario's mission.") SMB Smallmario.png Mario JC 08:00, 7 January 2017 (EST)


Hey, congrats on the promotion! I knew you'd be one one day. (Sorry I wasn't there to lend my support!) SMB Smallmario.png Mario JC 17:36, 7 January 2017 (EST)

Way to go!--EldritchdraaksSig.png TCS 17:40, 7 January 2017 (EST)

Thanks, guys! – Shokora 17:42, 7 January 2017 (EST)

I go to see Star Wars and I come back to see you've been promoted! Way to go! I was only gone three hours Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.pngPower Master Logo.png 18:53, 7 January 2017 (EST)

At first, I thought it was a demotion (wanted, not deserved), but I guess the ranks were different than I thought. The reason the misconception was occurring is that administrators were doing most of the work that regular users or patrollers couldn't do. Rarely did I see a bureaucrat do those things for the time I was active here. Guess order at which it appears here matters. I'm so dumb Paper Mario Dizzy.png. Anyways, congrats! --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 01:06, 8 January 2017 (EST)

  • Step 1: Called you Shokoroach for real in the proposal.
  • Step 2: You get sad.
  • Step 3: You get promoted.

Therefore, I shall hereby call you Shokoroach from now to promote your good fortune. ;) Mario Green.pngKaBoom! 01:19, 8 January 2017 (EST)

Archived Talk Pages Protected[edit]

For the proper archival of talk pages, I think that Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Petey Pirahna Ground Idle.gif should be looked at and associated pages be edited to use File:Petey Piranha Ground Idle.gif instead. This was all caused by a move and redirect deleted. I can't edit these. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 01:26, 8 January 2017 (EST)

All done. – Shokora 23:36, 8 January 2017 (EST)
Thank you! I didn't expect you to do the edits for user pages though. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 00:25, 9 January 2017 (EST)

Proposal passed[edit]

The proposal I made about creating a template for appeal outcomes has passed, so could you temporarily unprotect the archive pages so that I can apply the necessary changes? P.S.: There's also a template that might will need permanent protection, considering that the feature it was used for was shot down around five-and-a-half years ago. MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 11:14, 8 January 2017 (EST)

I'd prefer to avoid having to protect-unprotect the two archives, so I've just went and did it myself. Also, the Featured Image template has been now protected. Thanks. – Shokora 20:38, 9 January 2017 (EST)

Wiki Maintenance things[edit]

I have some ideas on how to improve the writing on some of the category listings on the Wiki maintenance page, along with some typos I've found:

"Articles that are yet to be created will be shown as a red link. New articles must follow the Manual of Style, and may only be created by autoconfirmed users."

The "are" should be changed to "have" and "may" should be changed to "can" (as "may" suggests an option otherwise).

"Users who have created stub articles should receive a {{new stub-reason}} reminder, so that they can understand how their future articles may be improved."

Should this instead say the following to be clearer?

"Users who have created stub articles without marking them as such should receive a {{new stub-reason}} reminder, so that they can understand how their future articles may be improved."

"Articles that are tagged with the {{construction}} template are not fully finished"

The "are" is missing.

I think it should be noted in the "Orphaned Pages" box that a majority of them are disambiguations and don't exactly need a link to them.

That's all I caught right now, but I'll let you know if I find any more. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.pngPower Master Logo.png 19:11, 8 January 2017 (EST)

Thank you, those are all very good suggestions. They've now been applied. – Shokora 06:25, 10 January 2017 (EST)

Unlicensed Images is missing a link to its category.
Maybe it should be noted that only Autoconfirmed Users can vote in talk page proposals in the Pending discussions section?
Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.pngPower Master Logo.png 13:16, 14 January 2017 (EST)

Unlicensed images don't actually have its own maintenance category, hence why that entry just listed categories that unlicensed images wouldn't appear in. Nethertheless, I have noted the exception. The autoconfirmed part has also been added. – Shokora 17:57, 14 January 2017 (EST)

PMTTYD bestiary help[edit]

I'm going through and replacing the enemy templates with the proper code to transclude from the bestiary, but for some reason all the PMTTYD enemy templates are transcluding with hp=2}} afterwards and I can't seem to find the source of it.--EldritchdraaksSig.png TCS 15:24, 9 January 2017 (EST)

I've had a quick skim through the page's coding, and I didn't spot any issues yet. Perhaps check if the <includeonly> and similar tags are all closed properly? – Shokora 06:25, 10 January 2017 (EST)


Thank you so much, i only created this account about 2 hours ago after being a long time fan of Nintendo and the Super Mario Wiki and was having a bit of trouble with adding things such as text. Now I know what to do and probably wont encounter that problem again.

Thanks again, Alex

What the...?[edit]

So I was looking at the bureaucrat list and I see the normal ones, Glowsquid, Walkazo... SHOKORA!? Then I went here and saw that you were promoted 3 days ago. Therefore, even though I'm late compared to some other users, CONGRATULATIONS!
Luigi 64DD.png(talk·edits) 23:44, 10 January 2017 (EST)

Why thanks! :) – Shokora 00:31, 11 January 2017 (EST)

Late Birthday Present Please[edit]

NSMB Warp Pipe.PNGHi, Shokora!NSMB Warp Pipe.PNG

Please PM your Pipe Plaza section(s) to me on the forums (our forums, which one did you think?) by no later than January 19th (I'd even suggest sending it in by January 17th). If you can't then contact this dino and we'll work something out! *cough* overtime *cough*.¸

Yours truly,

The Numbered Yoshi
Yoshi876 (talk)

Re: Partners in Time screenshot[edit]

Whoops, sorry about that. I guess the answer is yes, according to Wildgoosespeeder. Is it possible to restore the JPG that got replaced? DeSmuME's OpenGL rendering option doesn't play well with my Windows 7 environment. In any case, I'll try Linux soon and maybe I can retake the screenshot free of emulator glitch. --A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 05:18, 12 January 2017 (EST)

RE: On issuing warnings[edit]

Perhaps I am a bit uptight about how things are run on MarioWiki. I feel this way because I think some things that happen here are too relaxed compared to other Wikis I have edited. Or maybe I am so used to tighter control that it bugs me more than it should and other people get annoyed by my actions. Whatever the case, I am sorry for that though.

I had a feeling I was overusing those templates considering that many of them I issued are getting overturned within the past few months. I thought I understood how to use them and understood policy enough to issue them. The warnings I have been giving were mostly related to images, if I remember right. The overturning records tell a different story though. I started to issue them less frequently with the introduction of {{uncategorized}}. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) was an example where it was doing more good than issuing warnings. As for templates such as {{aboutfile-reminder}} and {{imagecategory-reminder}}, I will continue to issue those because they are more instructional than for keeping a track record of performance, unless you feel differently of course.

The last warning I gave at this time, which was for Toadette the Achiever (talk), I thought was more justified than the previous ones I was issuing because I think they were aware I was in the process of archiving. I don't know where the user was coming from where they said it was just a few minutes in between. I saw hours. Oh well, have to let that one go.

Anyways, thanks for confirming with me that I am being too harsh with my warning issuing. I hope that I can improve how to spot real behavioral issues instead of perceived ones. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:30, 12 January 2017 (EST)

I have flooded the recent changes page! >:D[edit]

Thanks! Had some spare time today. :) SMB Smallmario.png Mario JC 23:50, 15 January 2017 (EST)


It is possible for you to enable "change visibility" in order to remove the vulgar contents?

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