Talk:Piranhacus Giganticus
I noticed that the Piranhacus Giganticus in the left picture has different colored lips than the one in the right picture. Does this mean that they might be different species? Is there any proof that they are the same? A Link to the Present 03:23, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Merge
I think we should merge this with Super Piranha Plant. Who agrees? Astro3000
- I don't think so, they're diffirent. Piranhacus Giganticus comes from pipes, while Super Piranha Plant don't. World10 (talk) 12:45, 30 December 2012 (EST)
We really should merge this page with Big Piranha Plant
There is no reason to have them split because a) Piranha Plants in recent games have appeared both in pipes and out of them and b) they both have the same Japanese name (でかパックンフラワー (Deka Pakkunfurawā)). Piranhacus Giganticus is a name that I think was used in official guides for SMB3, and that has been turned obsolete by recent translations. SmokedChili (Talk) (Thoughts) 12:36, 22 January 2014 (EST)
- I could start a proposal in a while if needed, sounds sensible to me. Lord Grammaticus (talk) 13:43, 22 January 2014 (EST)
Piranhacus Giganticus / Giant Piranha Plant
In the Nintendo Power Strategy Guide for Super Mario Bros. 3, this enemy is brought up exactly twice, and has a separate name in each instance. Are there any other sources that give preference on Piranhacus Giganticus or Giant Piranha Plant (excluding the debatable Big Piranha Plant, which is split on basis of pipe)? LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:42, 11 April 2015 (EDT)
- I'm not exactly sure what the difference is between the Giant/Big Plants, but if it helps, the NSMBU and NSMB2 Prime eGuides use "Big Piranha Plant", and the NSMBW guide uses "Super Piranha Plant" for the same thing. They're rather vague about where they appear, though, but NSMBU mentions pipes ("Big Piranha Plants can’t be stomped and won’t withdraw into Pipes like regular Piranha Plants"). Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Do the NSBMU & NSMB2 guides differentiate between the basic potted and grounded Piranha Plants in any way, and is that quote referencing them in a specific level or in general? I just find it to be a bit of a discrepancy when the regular-sized ones (plus the uprooted walkers from SMRPG) are both considered garden variety and part of the same article, but the larger ones of approximately the same size are split. I guess the idea here is that Piranhaci Gigantici/Giant Piranha Plants are slightly too large to fit in pipes, neverminding that the pipe-dwellers in the Galaxy games totally eclipse what we call Big Piranha Plants and that the ordinary potted and grounded Piranha Plants also have a similar mild model difference in the NSMB games. LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:44, 11 April 2015 (EDT)
- Like I said, they're rather vague. I grabbed the names and the quote from the big enemy lists at the start, and there's only mention of one larger-than-normal Piranha Plant species. NSMBW seems to only reference Plants that dwell outside of pipes (as seen here and here), as does NSMBU (as seen here, here, and here). I haven't found any references in the NSMB2 eGuide yet. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Ok. In that case, can you please add the reference from the NSMBU guide that states that Big Piranha Plants don't use pipes? Since potted and grounded big Piranha Plants coexist in that game, that quote is probably the best reason to keep them separate. LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:10, 11 April 2015 (EDT)
- I haven't played the game, so I wouldn't know, but the guide only makes reference to one Piranha Plant +size. I scanned through the guide for places it was mentioned, and the name was always tied to the non-potted ones while I didn't see a single one inside the pipes. Are you sure they're in the game? Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Yup, the pipe-dwelling big ones are in Jungle of the Giants...although, since they're only in one area, is it possible that Prima mistook them for the regular-sized ones in that level? LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:24, 11 April 2015 (EDT)
- I haven't played the game, so I wouldn't know, but the guide only makes reference to one Piranha Plant +size. I scanned through the guide for places it was mentioned, and the name was always tied to the non-potted ones while I didn't see a single one inside the pipes. Are you sure they're in the game? Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Ok. In that case, can you please add the reference from the NSMBU guide that states that Big Piranha Plants don't use pipes? Since potted and grounded big Piranha Plants coexist in that game, that quote is probably the best reason to keep them separate. LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:10, 11 April 2015 (EDT)
- Like I said, they're rather vague. I grabbed the names and the quote from the big enemy lists at the start, and there's only mention of one larger-than-normal Piranha Plant species. NSMBW seems to only reference Plants that dwell outside of pipes (as seen here and here), as does NSMBU (as seen here, here, and here). I haven't found any references in the NSMB2 eGuide yet. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Do the NSBMU & NSMB2 guides differentiate between the basic potted and grounded Piranha Plants in any way, and is that quote referencing them in a specific level or in general? I just find it to be a bit of a discrepancy when the regular-sized ones (plus the uprooted walkers from SMRPG) are both considered garden variety and part of the same article, but the larger ones of approximately the same size are split. I guess the idea here is that Piranhaci Gigantici/Giant Piranha Plants are slightly too large to fit in pipes, neverminding that the pipe-dwellers in the Galaxy games totally eclipse what we call Big Piranha Plants and that the ordinary potted and grounded Piranha Plants also have a similar mild model difference in the NSMB games. LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:44, 11 April 2015 (EDT)
- Hm. The guide doesn't mention any Piranha Plants being in the stage at all, though the guide understandably only covers how to get Star Coins and the like. Would the pipe-dwellers happen to be in other stages? Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- That's the only stage, unless they were added elsewhere in New Super Luigi U (which I'm sure the guide doesn't include). From the sound of it, it seems Prima borrowed some of the more general information from their previous guides, and neglected or glanced over the one level that the big pipe-dwellers make an appearance. Given the context of the coverage, on second thought, that quote probably wouldn't be the best reference to use in favor of keeping Big Piranha Plant and Piranhacus Giganticus mutually exclusive...which makes their actual differences back to square one, unfortunately. There was a proposal a short while ago that suggested a merge (and would've solved my original question of whether this article should use Piranhacus Giganticus or Giant Piranha Plant by making the issue nonexistent), but it failed. I think the reasons could have been stronger on both sides, though... At this point in time with current knowledge, I believe there should be reconsideration between merging these articles or splitting the regular-sized in and out of pipes ones as well... LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:01, 12 April 2015 (EDT)
