Talk:Electro-Koopa King

Perspective

Why is this written as a species article when it's an individual, recolored, enlarged, asleep example of the red variety? It should probably be rewritten as a character article. Do the Prima, Nintendo Power, or Shogakukan guides indicate it's actually a species? Because unless they do, there's no reason for this to be formatted this way. Particularly with the Japanese name indicating it's a "King" of sorts. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:52, 7 July 2018 (EDT)

Name

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So, if it isn't named in-game, i guess it's in the Prima guide? -- FanOfYoshi 02:08, April 12, 2019 (EDT)

And besides the Prima guide, do any guide mention it at any point? -- FanOfYoshi 08:02, May 4, 2019 (EDT)

It's basic inference what the name is. Why do we need a citation needed? It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:46, May 9, 2019 (EDT)

Because it's a specific entity and the JP guide distinguishes it with a boss-like name. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:03, May 9, 2019 (EDT)

Versus Books calls it the "Giant Koopa" on page 70 and Prima Games calls it the "Huge Red Electrokoopa" on pages 21 and 96; BradyGames refers to it as the "Denki Nokonoko" and "Koopa" on pages 82 and 83, respectively, but those would seem to generic terms for any given Electro-Koopa, and Nintendo Power simply calls it "the turtle" on page 72. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:21, May 11, 2019 (EDT)

I don't think we should really adopt Prima's name. I think this is a case where common sense beats a source. I'd go for Giant Koopa if we really have to use such source, but I like the older name of just Electro-Koopa with a green identifier more. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:38, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Technically though, it is a huge version of the red ones....it's just not red itself. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:56, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

I'm with BM on this. There is no reason an obviously green thing would be called red in a more credible source. Prima never ceases to amaze me with their baffling incompetence. 23:12, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Giant Koopa is taken as it's already an older name for Big Koopa Troopa, and the alternatives mean the title would have to use an identifier, which the current situation avoids (also, in my opinion, Prima's guide is the best one out of the four, and it wouldn't be the first time I'd say they have Nintendo Power beat, either). LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:22, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Normally I'd agree with an anti-identifier mentality, but not when it requires that we use an outright misleading and confusing name. If we wanted to avoid an identifier that badly even just using the Japanese name would be an improvement. 23:36, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

But as Doc says, it's a huge version of the red ones in particular. If anything, the name is really too literal, though I think seeing the "Huge" in front of "Electrokoopa" should make it mostly self-explanatory which of the three types it's actually referring to. LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:50, June 24, 2019 (EDT)