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#{{User|Time Turner}} The very first thing that I noticed about this article is that there's not a single mentions of items in any useful format. Not a list or table, not a small description ''anywhere'', not even a link to the [[Recipes]] page (speaking of, the ability to cook items isn't mentioned as well). After that, I started to look through, and my biggest complaint is with the story: I'd describe it as [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeigeProse Beige Prose]. Personally, the entire thing is a complete slog to read through, with nothing naturally flowing from one sentence to another and basically no descriptors. I'm not expecting flowery writing like what you'd see from a novel, but good writing is still essential, and something that has me jumping over whole sentences just to get to the end is not good writing. Look at [[Super Mario Sunshine]], [[Mario Party DS]], and [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] for articles that have genuinely-interesting story descriptions. Alongside the items, there are actually quite a lot of stuff that's missing: the [[Letter]]s, the [[Star Piece]]s, the [[Li'l Oink]]s, the [[List of shops in Paper Mario|shops]], the status effects, an explanation of [[Badge]]s, a description of the [[List of Paper Mario staff|staff]] that isn't just a list, [[Koopa Koot's Favors]], images for the boss table, the [[Save Block]]s, the [[Recovery Block]]s, the [[Super Block (object)|Super Blocks]], [[Merlee]], [[Chuck Quizmo]], and I'm positive that there's more that's missing. Seriously, this article is so far from complete. A lot of the things that I've mentioned could scoot away with a small section or a couple of sentences in the right location describing them, but the fact that they're not even there in the first place is definitely indicative of the article's condition.
#{{User|Time Turner}} The very first thing that I noticed about this article is that there's not a single mentions of items in any useful format. Not a list or table, not a small description ''anywhere'', not even a link to the [[Recipes]] page (speaking of, the ability to cook items isn't mentioned as well). After that, I started to look through, and my biggest complaint is with the story: I'd describe it as [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeigeProse Beige Prose]. Personally, the entire thing is a complete slog to read through, with nothing naturally flowing from one sentence to another and basically no descriptors. I'm not expecting flowery writing like what you'd see from a novel, but good writing is still essential, and something that has me jumping over whole sentences just to get to the end is not good writing. Look at [[Super Mario Sunshine]], [[Mario Party DS]], and [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] for articles that have genuinely-interesting story descriptions. Alongside the items, there are actually quite a lot of stuff that's missing: the [[Letter]]s, the [[Star Piece]]s, the [[Li'l Oink]]s, the [[List of shops in Paper Mario|shops]], the status effects, an explanation of [[Badge]]s, a description of the [[List of Paper Mario staff|staff]] that isn't just a list, [[Koopa Koot's Favors]], images for the boss table, the [[Save Block]]s, the [[Recovery Block]]s, the [[Super Block (object)|Super Blocks]], [[Merlee]], [[Chuck Quizmo]], and I'm positive that there's more that's missing. Seriously, this article is so far from complete. A lot of the things that I've mentioned could scoot away with a small section or a couple of sentences in the right location describing them, but the fact that they're not even there in the first place is definitely indicative of the article's condition.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} The article is incomplete, therefore, I support the unfeature. Everything Time Turner has said is correct and this article should get unfeatured.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} The article is incomplete, therefore, I support the unfeature. Everything Time Turner has said is correct and this article should get unfeatured.
#{{User|Mario}} So, in other words, the sidequests need to be explained better. The Boss Battles table is very messy too, and I'd argue that the Star Spirits power table needs some work. The article needs mention on the permanent hammer and shoe upgrades Mario can get. Finally the staff section can't be a mere list on people who worked on the game, per [[MarioWiki:Empty Section Policy]]: "Note that the sections should ideally be original writing (or in the case of galleries, feature a reasonably wide range of material) and not simply consist of random content copied from the target page."


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  1. Time Turner (talk) The very first thing that I noticed about this article is that there's not a single mentions of items in any useful format. Not a list or table, not a small description anywhere, not even a link to the Recipes page (speaking of, the ability to cook items isn't mentioned as well). After that, I started to look through, and my biggest complaint is with the story: I'd describe it as Beige Prose. Personally, the entire thing is a complete slog to read through, with nothing naturally flowing from one sentence to another and basically no descriptors. I'm not expecting flowery writing like what you'd see from a novel, but good writing is still essential, and something that has me jumping over whole sentences just to get to the end is not good writing. Look at Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Party DS, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl for articles that have genuinely-interesting story descriptions. Alongside the items, there are actually quite a lot of stuff that's missing: the Letters, the Star Pieces, the Li'l Oinks, the shops, the status effects, an explanation of Badges, a description of the staff that isn't just a list, Koopa Koot's Favors, images for the boss table, the Save Blocks, the Recovery Blocks, the Super Blocks, Merlee, Chuck Quizmo, and I'm positive that there's more that's missing. Seriously, this article is so far from complete. A lot of the things that I've mentioned could scoot away with a small section or a couple of sentences in the right location describing them, but the fact that they're not even there in the first place is definitely indicative of the article's condition.
  2. Baby Luigi (talk) The article is incomplete, therefore, I support the unfeature. Everything Time Turner has said is correct and this article should get unfeatured.
  3. Mario (talk) So, in other words, the sidequests need to be explained better. The Boss Battles table is very messy too, and I'd argue that the Star Spirits power table needs some work. The article needs mention on the permanent hammer and shoe upgrades Mario can get. Finally the staff section can't be a mere list on people who worked on the game, per MarioWiki:Empty Section Policy: "Note that the sections should ideally be original writing (or in the case of galleries, feature a reasonably wide range of material) and not simply consist of random content copied from the target page."

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