MarioWiki:Featured articles/N2/Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

Support

1. Megadardery (talk) This Article is very clean and very good
2. New Super Yoshi (talk)
3. Super Candy (talk)
4. Kelton2 (talk)
5. Electrical Bowser jr. (talk)
6. Mariobros1985 (talk)

Oppose

1. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) The story section is written badly. It should use a rewrite. For example, it calls Excess Express the "beautiful train". That's a serious no-no, plus a hint of bias.
2. Glowsquid (talk) - Per BLOF; said plot summary is overly long and falls into most of the pitfalls descried in Mariowiki:Good Writting.

Removal of Opposes

• Megadardery (talk) I've fixed what BabyLuigiOnFire said.

Comments

• Megadardery (talk) First of all: the fifth support was on 17:10, December 1, 2012. and that was before the first Oppose 22:45, December 1, 2012‎. and other than that: I've fixed what BabyLuigiOnFire said.

"First of all: the fifth support was on 17:10, December 1, 2012. and that was before the first Oppose". That's completely irrelevant, if there are any good-faith oppose, the article can't be featured. Automatically featuring anything that gets 5 supports would make for an hilariously broken system, lol.

The plot summary as it is now, is way too long. It shouldn't be chapter-by-chapter and it certainly shouldn't be 5.000~-words long. The chapter-by-chapter summaries are nowhere near as bad as some of the horrors the wiki had in the past, but it's still full of poor, flowerly writing ("and the heroes are off once again. " beurk) and is unecessarily verbose in spots. For example, this part of the Prologue section

The adventure begins when Princess Peach goes on a cruise with her steward, Toadsworth. The two arrive in Rogueport, the home of rogues and thieves. Peach slips away from Toadsworth and meets a hooded woman, who persuades her to buy something. After a moment of thinking, Peach sees a box which she describes "pretty". The hooded woman says it is a box with a map to a legendary treasure. She claims that the chest can be opened only by "one with a pure heart" and explains that a person such as herself cannot open the chest. She states that if Peach can open it, she can have whatever is inside. The Princess eagerly opens the box and discovers that it contains a Magical Map. She decides to send it to Mario, knowing the plumber would be able to help her find it.

could easily be shortened to two or three instances without losing any plot-relevant informations, this also applies to most of the rest. In that respect, your "fix" doesn't improve anything and infact makes thing marginally worse.

However, I do think there'd be some merit to having a separate page (which admitelly, might contradict what MarioWiki:Subpages Policy says about pages being "not just as an extension of an existing page " - but this can be talked about later) for a reasonably well-written chapter-by-chapter summary, as the chapters in the Paper Mario series are essentialy self-contained stories in themselves. This'd leave the main TTYD page with an actual plot summary, and then I might get behind this nomination- but with the plot summary as it is right now, yeah no. --Glowsquid (talk) 12:43, 2 December 2012 (EST)