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#{{User|BeeBop!}} Per my proposal
#{{User|BeeBop!}} Per my proposal
#{{User|iggykoopa}} -per all
#{{User|iggykoopa}} -per all
#{{User Paperphailurethemariomonster99}} Per BeeBop!


====Keep it Merged====
====Keep it Merged====

Revision as of 17:46, October 20, 2008

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}. Signing with the signature code ~~~(~) is not allowed due to technical issues.

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
    1. Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
    2. Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
    3. Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
  4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
  5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
  6. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  7. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
  8. There are two topics that cannot be decided on through a proposal: the first is sysop promotions and demotions, which are decided by Bureaucrats. Secondly, no proposals calling for the creation of Banjo, Conker or Sonic series articles are allowed (several proposals supporting them have failed in recent history).

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 11:09, 22 September 2024 (EDT)

New Features

None at the moment.

Removals

None at the moment.

Splits & Merges

L Block

I was stopping by to check on blocks recently, and I saw that L Block had almost no info. I have a feeling L Block should be merged with M Block.

Proposer: Pink Boozooka (talk)
Deadline: October 23, 2008, 17:00

Merge

Paperphailurethemariomonster99 (talk) - I'm Paperphailurethemariomonster99, and I think M Blocks and L Blocks are the same!!!!

Don't Merge

  1. Stooben Rooben (talk) - I have 3 reasons why it shouldn't be merged. 1) It is officially named, 2) It affects gameplay differently, no matter how slight a difference it has from the M Block, 3) It is almost the same length as the M Block. With an expansion, the articles will be fine separate.
  2. Stumpers (talk) - I agree with Stooben's third point. Plenty of articles on this Wiki are short and would, in their current states, be better merged, but there's so much potential for those articles that it would be a waste. I'm thinking of minor characters from Mario Tennis: Power Tour for example. Yeah, I know that after I voted for the merging levels into world articles it probably seems weird that I'm opposing this, but that was a presentation thing, whereas this is not.
  3. Super-Yoshi (talk) - Per all.
  4. iggykoopa (talk) - No way there two differnt boxes.
  5. InfectedShroom (talk) - Ay. Per all. L Block can be expanded into a good-sized article. And iggykoopa, I do believe you are voting in the wrong section.
  6. Princess Grapes Butterfly (talk) *sigh* There are different blocks that are officaly named. They can't be merge those blocks aren't the same.

Comments

Mame Block and Bagubagutchi

I recently passed by Mametchi's page and found a user had merged Bagubagutchi and Mame Block in to the one article. We need the pages as someone might need the info.

Proposer: BeeBop! (talk)
Deadline: October 24, 2008, 20:00

Spilt

  1. BeeBop! (talk) Per my proposal
  2. iggykoopa (talk) -per all
  3. Template:User Paperphailurethemariomonster99 Per BeeBop!

Keep it Merged

  1. InfectedShroom (talk) - Fine. I didn't want to do this, but I oppose because there was already a proposal about this last month, and it merged the two.
  2. Stooben Rooben (talk) - Per IS. Besides, the more stubs we have on this site, the less professional it looks.
  3. Princess Grapes Butterfly (talk) Per all. Ugh we have a past proposal to merge then because they're stubish. And stub aren't good for this wiki.

Comments

Umm I think they have a proposal to merge all those items together since they're stubish. Princess Grapes Butterfly (talk)

Yes. And it passed. Besides, you can find all the info... In the one article. This proposal is not necessary. InfectedShroom (talk)

I was looking over the archived proposals and there is no one up there about these two items but i know there was a proposal but to your point InfectedShroom it did not pass i know that for a fact because i lead the charge ageinst it i belive win it dissaberd the tally was 11-8. iggykoopa (talk)

Ever heard of using periods? And it seems that the fact that a proposal passed or not is irrelevant, because the proposal was deleted without being archived. I'm looking for a history now, though... InfectedShroom (talk)
Here. The proposal was removed, but it was not decided. I guess this proposal is valid. InfectedShroom (talk)
If this is the case, doesn't that mean that a lone user acted on a failed proposal? Stumpers (talk)

So that means somebody merged the items together after the propasal falied. iggykoopa (talk)

Yeah, so if the proposer just cancels this proposal, no action is taken, just like the previous proposal. In short, the proposer could have just undone the user's edits instead of making another proposal and gotten what (s)he wanted. Stumpers (talk)
So, perhaps the proposer should just do that? Stooben Rooben (talk) 16:20, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

Changes

Sightings: Change to References?

The Sightings pages are currently listings of outside references to the Super Mario series. For example, Movie Sightings includes information about Super Mario Bros. 3 in The Wizard and Game Sightings includes information about the Mario statue in Animal Crossing. Now, the term "sighting" has many meanings, including, from Dictionary.com, "1. The ability to see. 2. The act or fact of seeing: hoping for a sight of land; caught sight of a rare bird." among other, less prominent meanings. As you can see, sightings refers to one person viewing something in reality, not something in fiction. Someone could make a "sighting" of Charles Martinet, but could not make a "sighting" of Mario. For our purposes, the term "references" is much more appropriate. Therefore, I propose that we rename the Sightings pages in this matter. At the same time, I'd like to make the titles more professional (Game --> Video game, Movie --> Film). Note that because of the new naming, we will be merging comics, books, and magazines into one article, because they all are print/literature sightings.

Proposer: Stumpers (talk)
Deadline: October 27, 2008, 17:00

Support

  1. Stumpers (talk) - My reasons are detailed above.
  2. Ghost Jam (talk) - Per Stumpers.
  3. Stooben Rooben (talk) - Per Stumpers.
  4. Princess Grapes Butterfly (talk) Per Stumpers.

Oppose

Comments

The full title change would be as follows:

  1. Advertisement Sightings --> Promotional references
  2. Animation Sightings --> Animation references
  3. Book Sightings --> Print references
  4. Comic Sightings --> Print references
  5. Game Sightings --> Video game references
  6. Magazine Sightings --> Print references
  7. Movie Sightings --> Film references
  8. Musical Sightings --> Music references
  9. Television Sightings --> Television references
  10. Theater Sightings --> Theatrical references
  11. Website Sightings --> Internet references

Please debate these. Any debated changes will only be altered to reflect the sightings --> references change (ie Game Sightings would become Game references if people debate changing it to Video game references). Stumpers (talk)

Good changes. :) Though, I'd like to suggest merging Comic sightings into Literary references, since they both are a form of literature. "Theater references" could be changed to "Theatrical references"; And "Online references" could be changed to "Internet references" perhaps? Stooben Rooben (talk)
I like. I don't know if there is even material that would apply to this, but I had a sudden thought that a subsection to 'Internet References' could be 'Memes'.
Noted and changed... GhostJam, make sure you're also cool with the changes I'm going to make (it's still early enough to do that... so now we have a three-way merge (Stooben, you're absolutely right, and magazines are technically literature as well, so I've merged the three into "print references." Sound good? Stumpers (talk)
Agreed; print references sounds great. Stooben Rooben (talk)

Also, if this goes through, we will be capitalizing the 'r' in References for these titles, yes? I don't guess it matters, just my personally obsession with symmetry. -- Ghost Jam (talk) 13:47, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

Hmm... maybe, maybe not. Capitalization should really only be used when you have a proper noun... so it's kind of like, whose obsession do we go with? Yours with symmetry or mine with proper capitalization? It could really go to either side. Since we're trying to make it more professional, I think lower case is the way to go. Stumpers (talk)
Aye, capitalizing the "r" doesn't make much sense. Just look at Wikipedia. Symmetry is one of my biggest pet peeves (as seen in many templates and pages I edit :P), but the lowercase "r" seems the best way. Stooben Rooben (talk)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.