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Anyone know why the IPA symbols aren't displayed correctly? (Or are they? Not for me.) I'm talking about these: [hɔləˈʁøː] The symbols ɔ and ʁ should be bigger. Time Questions 11:29, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

What browser are you using? In Firefox, the symbols are bigger than in IE. -- Son of Suns (talk)
They look exactly the same for me in Firefox and IE. Except for the last one, which is too big in IE. Time Questions 12:13, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
Strange...I'm not sure why they are changing differently... -- Son of Suns (talk)

Do either of these look right? [hɔləˈʁøː] [hɔləˈʁøː] Not understanding the IPA myself, I've just copied the relevent formatting info from Wikipedia... - 2257(Talk) 02:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

The symbols in the second one look consistent, but yeah, it's a different font. I guess the font of our wiki doesn't include those symbols? Time Questions 02:24, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
Yeah, our default font is Verdana, which contains only a few symbols. I guess it falls back on times new roman for the symbols that don't exist in Verdana, creating the inconsistent look. - 2257(Talk) 02:32, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Useless page?[edit]

Why do we have an article talking about some exclamation people make? Sure, it's a running gag, but does the term by itself play any major plot role (i.e. anyone who says this will turn into a wheel of cheese)? There is a song with it in the title, but it isn't directly the word causing it, so... I think this article is useless. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 00:19, 10 February 2014 (EST)

It's the universe scenario all over again: word naturally common in German produced comics gets article on some ham-fisted basis that there's a need for deeper analysis or something. I'm reminded of SFWikia, back when I had to wipe an article on Dan's "Yahoo!" catchphrase.

EDIT - Another glance mentions the transforming song from one comic, which seems legit, but whoever wrote this seems to have looked for straws and padded it from there. ExdeathIcon.png Lord G. matters. ExdeathIcon.png 02:37, 10 February 2014 (EST)

As I mentioned earlier, the transforming song doesn't directly relate to the term; if it was merely "Holerö" that causes things to happen, we should've gotten, perhaps, a short article. But it isn't "Holerö" itself causing the transformation. It's the song. So, you seem to agree with me that this article be deleted. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 14:02, 10 February 2014 (EST)
It's just a matter whether it's worth keeping as a footnote anywhere else. And getting a good look at this thing now that I'm not in the middle of perpetual multitasking, there's little if any reason for keeping the article as is, or at all for the matter. That is to say: yes, to the Void with this relic. ExdeathIcon.png Lord G. matters. ExdeathIcon.png 14:15, 10 February 2014 (EST)

Delete this page[edit]

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delete 10-0
As I mentioned in the comments before, this page is useless. The closest role "Holerö" plays is being part of a song that transforms people to cheese. Nope, "Holerö" itself doesn't do anything. There isn't an article on Mario's famous "Mama mia", and Holerö is all what it is: "a German neologism used as an informal greeting or an interjection expressing joy or slight surprise." Oh, and it's a running gag, I guess. But again, Mario says "Mama mia" a lot. The rest of this article is just filler and padding. Mama mia.

Other running gag, Toilet brush, at least plays at least one role (Mario uses it as a zipper) before being a recurring object.

For those who want to keep information, we can incorporate it this to the Club Nintendo article as a little note saying how this is a running gag.

Proposer: Mario (talk)
Deadline: February 24, 2014 23:59 GMT


  1. Mario (talk) Mama mia, this page is useless.
  2. Yoshi876 (talk) Per proposal.
  3. Baby Luigi (talk) The term category has too much similar contenders for deletion
  4. Lord Grammaticus (talk) Per Mario's proposal; this page is yet another relic of a time of different standards in this wiki's history that also produced the Universe article, as explained above. The footnote is probably the best use of the information, provided said info is deemed notable enough to keep.
  5. driftmaster130 (talk) Per all.
  6. KP (talk) A page about a word? Wow. OK then, by that logic, we should create Mama Mia, Luigi Time, Mario! Help!, Save Me!, and a thousand others I don't want to mention.
  7. Walkazo (talk) - Per all.
  8. Marshal Dan Troop (talk) Per all.
  9. SeanWheeler (talk) Pointless. If someone in-universe said "oh my god" would God get his own article?
  10. Magikrazy (talk) Per all. An exclamation doesn't deserve its own article. If I'm wrong, I'll get to work on the article for "Waluigi Time".



Will this page be redirected to Sag niemals Holerö! or just plain deleted? driftmaster130 (talk)

I agree that it should redirect to here BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 17:52, 10 February 2014 (EST)
I don't think so because Holerö is a running interjection in the Club Nintendo series, so the term is used over spans of comic strips, not specifically this one. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 20:06, 10 February 2014 (EST)
It's a key thing in that comic, though. And we could just add information on other ones using the term in the Sag niemals Holerö article.
--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 16:36, 11 February 2014 (EST)
I guess so. The only thing worth keeping is the "origin" section anyway. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 19:54, 12 February 2014 (EST)