Talk:Mycom BASIC Magazine

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I'm not sure why this article exists. It's only about a third-party developer's ads appearing in a magazine. Nintendo and other developers have put out ads on countless gaming mags. This information could be merged with Hudson's article. I've even uploaded two of the ads years ago on that page.--Platform (talk) 11:53, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

This was discussed on the Discord, but this exists since Mycom BASIC Magazine serves as probably the best contemporary source on the Japanese home computer titles we have, and we already permit a few other publications of this ilk; namely Famitsu. A merge to Hudson's page wouldn't make sense, since Hudson didn't make or publish the magazine themselves, they were just featured in it. ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 12:50, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Famitsu and the defunct Famimaga has articles and reviews of Mario games written by their journalists and editors. This article is just about the ads Hudson placed. Should we make an article for a TV channel that aired Mario related McDonald's Happy Meal commercials?--Platform (talk) 20:56, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

We feel like there's a world of a difference between a deliberate, concentrated effort with a given magazine with the express purpose of promoting a new Mario-related title, and an advertisement campaign for an entire other company, which happens to feature something Mario related, happening to land on Qubo.
Mycom BASIC is the magazine that easily has the most of these, and is also the most thorough. The only other magazine that comes to mind that really compares is Oh Mz Magazine, which had an (unofficial) pair of guide pages for Mario Bros. Special, but we doubt anyone is going to champion for reworking this page to be an entirely separate magazine with less information in it just because of 2 entire pages in 1 issue of its run. And unless we wanted to make this page generically various marketing promotions as a whole, a move that would only make sense if we started giving individual marketing campaigns their own pages and started doing things like eschewing Nintendo Power for a dedicated "Play It Loud" page, focusing on the publications these actually appeared in is probably smarter. ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 21:14, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Nintendo has a much larger marketing campaign on YouTube, but it doesn't have a page as you are familiar with how that proposal went.--Platform (talk) 00:22, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

...We shouldn't have to explain the difference between Google AdSense and Famitsu to you, right? We're not asking this to be reductive, we just earnestly don't know how exactly a comparison like this makes sense unless you were to blanket consider any form of marketing, ever to be equal. ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 01:09, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

I wasn't referring to the random ads (I haven't seen any in many years with ad blocking). I meant the videos put out on Nintendo's channels on YouTube. They are a prolong and concentrated advertisement campaign that far exceeds Hudson's campaign on MyCom. Are there any other articles on this wiki that are about a non-Nintendo media platform that was used for an ad campaign?--Platform (talk) 05:10, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

...Famitsu? It is non-Nintendo (being published by Kadokawa), it's a media platform (magazine), and it was used for an ad campaign (there are regular features for upcoming Nintendo games, and they actually had their mascot appear in Super Mario Maker as one of the Costume Mario costumes.) Unless we're really willing to argue Famitsu either shouldn't have an article, or its article should only be about the Costume Mario costume, it feels pretty cut-and-dry that Mycom BASIC Magazine having a page is fair game.
Though, to be completely honest, part of this is making us realize how weirdly spotty our coverage of magazines as a whole is. We really only have a page on Famitsu, but it's under construction. Meanwhile, we lack a page for CoroCoro Magazine, being them being significant enough to Nintendo to have their own crossover Splatoon roller, and apparently it's hosted a ton of assorted manga things for Mario if our attempts to search it have shown us anything. Meanwhile, over on List of publications, in the magazine section, Shitamachi Ninjō Gekijō is listed??? Like. Sure, it's a digital magazine, but it strikes us as an especially questionable inclusion when our coverage is as spotty as it is. (It doesn't help that MarioWiki:Coverage lacks any section about magazines, let alone about at what point a magazine becomes "involved with Nintendo" enough to warrant a page.) ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 12:57, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

Years ago, I thought of making pages for Famitsu and Famimaga but ultimately I declined to do so because I couldn't find any affiliation to Nintendo despite these publications making the Family Computer a huge part of their core identity as part of their titles. They are like Nintendo Life and Nintendo News, completely separate and unendorsed by Nintendo but have a close working relationship with them. I may yet submit Famitsu's page for deletion alongside Guinness World Records.--Platform (talk) 11:08, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

We're fairly skeptical people would support deleting Famitsu given the Maker costume as well as the various manga published by them, but you could make that proposal if you so wish. Ultimately, though, we don't really see the harm in having a Mycom BASIC page to help explain Hudson's presence in printed magazines; mostly since our coverage of magazines is, well, a bit obtuse as it stands. ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 12:58, May 22, 2025 (EDT)