Talk:Mario Kart 7 item probability distributions

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Where are the item distributions for VS races when items are set on Shells?[edit]

I don't see it anywhere on the "With Specific Items" section, I just see the other three (Mushrooms, Bananas, Bob-ombs). Gold Luigi (talk) 18:32, 27 January 2017 (EST)

I just rechecked the folder of the game given me and it is absent. All the other files are there (and you can see that Battle Mode has shells-only distributions), but shells-only in races is missing. Can you check if it is selectable in VS races?--Mister Wu (talk) 22:43, 27 January 2017 (EST)
Well, I just did yesterday night, and yes, VS Races do have a Shells Only option, both Local play and Online communities. But checking the item distributions really isn't for me. What I also want to know is, how did you even play MK7? I've seen in a thread in MKB that you don't even have plans to buy a 3DS, or even a 2DS. Gold Luigi (talk) 06:32, 28 January 2017 (EST)
ALSO! I want to remove some distributions, like the ones for the online matches (they're literally the exact same as those from Local Play and Single Player), the names below the items (except for Test3 and Test4) and replace the rank1-8 with the actual rankings. Gold Luigi (talk) 14:25, 28 January 2017 (EST)
This would be inappropriate in many ways. The names are the ones found in the game's files, as both rows and columns headers, and thus come directly from the development team, removing them is inappropriate, in Mario Kart 8 those headers are simply absent, this is why I didn't include them in the first place. Removing the distributions just because they are the same is not appropriate as well for a Wiki that must document things as they are. The developers created separate files with different names but having the same distributions in them, we must just accept that and report what the developers did.--Mister Wu (talk) 15:10, 28 January 2017 (EST)
Ah, shame. I even forgot to tell you if I should replace the in-game percentage with the percentage everybody knows (e.g. 200 -> 100%) but since I can't, that's fine. I understand this for everything, except for the online distributions, since they are the exact same as the Local Play and Single Player distributions for both human players and CPU players. Gold Luigi (talk) 15:44, 28 January 2017 (EST)
I typically maintain the native format of the data if it is clear enough, so we can immediately see, for example, that Mario Kart 8 reuses the same probability tables with the same scheme (sum of row to 200 and same order of the items). Regarding the choice of distributions, it is important to report all of them. We do report all the stats of the characters and parts in Mario Kart 8, even though many of them are redundant. If you really want, I can recheck the content and condense the tables with the same content in one table changing the title, if the use is similar enough (e.g. VS races and Battle Mode).--Mister Wu (talk) 17:31, 28 January 2017 (EST)
Yes, item distributions in online play are literally the exact same as Local's and Single Player's, both VS Race and Battle Mode, I played many times Battle Mode and stuff, and I see absolutely no changed to the distribution at all, so I think it's safe to say that you can put them into one table, because they're literally the same mode, it's just played in another mode. And sorry for acting a bit serious, but... I guess I.. I can't really explain it. Gold Luigi (talk) 18:39, 28 January 2017 (EST)
I have merged the tables originated from files that, according to a diff tool, had the very same content, and added the Shells-Only VS Races distributions. To answer one of your first questions, Mankalor gave me these files, he now managed to find and send me the missing files, so I added the missing distributions.--Mister Wu (talk) 20:35, 28 January 2017 (EST)
I knew that those distributions would be the exact same for both local and online play. I've also tried yesterday night to see if the special item box in DK Pass has different distributions when the items are set to Bananas Only, Mushrooms Only, Bananas Only and Bob-ombs Only. Spoiler: Nope. It acts as a regular item box in all 4 cases. I even got a Lucky Seven in that special item box in all 4 cases, whereas I didn't even get it once when the items were set to All Items. And yes, if the items are set to None, the special item box, of course, won't appear at all, just like all other item boxes. Gold Luigi (talk) 07:37, 29 January 2017 (EST)