User talk:GoldyFish110
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Hi. I think you should try to get less personally bothered at things like Mario's height. I think you're assuming malice on the game designers' and wiki authors' parts when none likely exists. And I also think you should tone down on the strong imagery you invoke from the motives you have of your potential debaters (the "nailing me to a cross and burning it down" part is a bit much, as with portraying people you anticipate disagreeing with you with condescending all-caps). 
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:21, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
- ^ Yes, first of all, calm down. This is a very small thing to be bothered about. I like that you feel strongly about this and want to get the details correct, but you are taking this way too personally.
- As for the matter at hand, the source is still valid, however incorrect it may seem, because it is an officially licensed product with an officially licensed description, afaik. Mario's height (as well as other characters') is inconsistent between games, and I wrote there's no official statement on Mario's true height at the end of the paragraph. Sure, the Amazon thing could probably be rewritten, or removed if enough people think it should be (or proven to be unofficial), but it doesn't belong in a trivia section because it fits in the paragraph about Mario's height. The interview excerpts can certainly be added at the end of the paragraph, if you like, or the paragraph be restructured entirely.
Four feet would explain New Donk City, though :P
23:28, November 5, 2020 (EST)
- I'm gonna try to be more calm about this, because I feel bad that I feel like I'm starting to revert back to how I behaved when I was 16, but I've said so many times that "Life Size" in context is not really literal, or we are at least unsure if it is. Just because Nintendo licensed the product, does not mean that it's a source for Mario's canon height, otherwise there wouldn't be so much "Life Size" merchandise that is all over the place in height, especially when they were so specific about how they scaled Bowser in a single Wreck-it Ralph scene, then all "Life Size" Mario merch should be a specific set height, which they aren't, and to document that, to me, just makes the Mario height thing all the more confusing (and maybe you've all misunderstood because I've been getting so frustrated over it, but the only things that personally bother me about the statue is that I am under 5 and a half feet tall and it makes New Donk City look like a joke that people who told me I was the size of a 12 year old would laugh at and that when this wiki has something that isn't really 100% confirmed, people act like it's confirmed anyway, for example, the "Larry is the same size as Princess Peach" thing I had to fix, and they told me I was wrong even though it was so obvious, and I'm the Larry fan) But all that is besides the main point, because I kinda have a problem where I ramble on about my feelings I should probably take care of, because the main point I'm trying to get across is that "Life Size" in this context, probably isn't literal, and something that you aren't sure if it's true or not, probably shouldn't be documented as true, when the truth is your unsure if they actually mean that it is the true height of Mario or it is just a big size. But I think it just means that it's a big size, but regardless, I don't feel it's very appropriate for this wiki to be documenting that as a source for Mario's height unless they specifically state that "Yes, these merchandise depict Mario's canon height even though they're all different" so I'd say in the meantime, it probably isn't very appropriate to use that statue as a source of reference in the physical description. Anyway, I apologize about getting so worked up, I really don't want to revert back to being an angry jerk. But I guess I care a lot because I've been trying to get a scale for LarryDS, which has been taken care of I think ("I think" because it's subject to change through redoing a lot of hard work) as well as the fact I feel it's not appropriate to document the statue, because no one really knows for sure if it's really meant to be Mario's canon height. I hope I'm clear here. Sorry.
Also, I'd say that 102.6cm/103.3cm or 3 feet 4 inches would probably better explain New Donk City since that puts the New Donk Cityman at around 180cm which is 5 feet 11 inches when comparing T-posed models, which according to google is the height of a typical man, which I am not, lol, so the Mario and Sonic height/Origami King's Monster Fish of the Great Sea Paper Mario to Paper Jam Mario height is pretty perfect IMO, lol, even if the Monster Fish of the Great Sea isn't a good source of measurement due to large inconsistency between the Cheep Cheep and Blooper sizes, but when I use the proportions of the New Donkers in Super Mario Odyssey, then they become 155cm, which I feel is too short for the New Donkers, lol--GoldyFish110 (talk) 00:22, November 6, 2020 (EST)GoldyFish110
- I'm gonna try to be more calm about this, because I feel bad that I feel like I'm starting to revert back to how I behaved when I was 16, but I've said so many times that "Life Size" in context is not really literal, or we are at least unsure if it is. Just because Nintendo licensed the product, does not mean that it's a source for Mario's canon height, otherwise there wouldn't be so much "Life Size" merchandise that is all over the place in height, especially when they were so specific about how they scaled Bowser in a single Wreck-it Ralph scene, then all "Life Size" Mario merch should be a specific set height, which they aren't, and to document that, to me, just makes the Mario height thing all the more confusing (and maybe you've all misunderstood because I've been getting so frustrated over it, but the only things that personally bother me about the statue is that I am under 5 and a half feet tall and it makes New Donk City look like a joke that people who told me I was the size of a 12 year old would laugh at and that when this wiki has something that isn't really 100% confirmed, people act like it's confirmed anyway, for example, the "Larry is the same size as Princess Peach" thing I had to fix, and they told me I was wrong even though it was so obvious, and I'm the Larry fan) But all that is besides the main point, because I kinda have a problem where I ramble on about my feelings I should probably take care of, because the main point I'm trying to get across is that "Life Size" in this context, probably isn't literal, and something that you aren't sure if it's true or not, probably shouldn't be documented as true, when the truth is your unsure if they actually mean that it is the true height of Mario or it is just a big size. But I think it just means that it's a big size, but regardless, I don't feel it's very appropriate for this wiki to be documenting that as a source for Mario's height unless they specifically state that "Yes, these merchandise depict Mario's canon height even though they're all different" so I'd say in the meantime, it probably isn't very appropriate to use that statue as a source of reference in the physical description. Anyway, I apologize about getting so worked up, I really don't want to revert back to being an angry jerk. But I guess I care a lot because I've been trying to get a scale for LarryDS, which has been taken care of I think ("I think" because it's subject to change through redoing a lot of hard work) as well as the fact I feel it's not appropriate to document the statue, because no one really knows for sure if it's really meant to be Mario's canon height. I hope I'm clear here. Sorry.
