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Are these guys considered [[:Category:Insects|insects]]? Their name suggests that they are, but they sure don't look very insect-like... They have those antennae... --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 16:12, 16 February 2007 (EST) | Are these guys considered [[:Category:Insects|insects]]? Their name suggests that they are, but they sure don't look very insect-like... They have those antennae... --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 16:12, 16 February 2007 (EST) | ||
:Also, they are not really "enemies". They cannot harm Yoshi. {{User:3dejong/sig|wackoooo!}} | :Also, they are not really "enemies". They cannot harm Yoshi. {{User:3dejong/sig|wackoooo!}} | ||
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Their name implies that they're bugs. {{User:Reversinator/sig}} | Their name implies that they're bugs. {{User:Reversinator/sig}} | ||
:Their Japanese name (「ころがりくん」''korogari-kun'') doesn't, neither does their German name, or any official information. They shouldn't be classified as insects just because of their English name imo.--[[User:Vellidragon|vellidragon]] 17:07, 21 January 2010 (EST) | |||
::Not sure if they're insects, but I agree that the English name alone isn't enough. Buzzy Beetles are also not actual beetles even though their localized names imply that. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 17:13, 21 January 2010 (EST) | |||
:::Not to mention that all bugs are not necessarily insects. --{{User|Garlic Man}} | |||
::::They're isopods! Isopods are a type of crustacean, not a type of insect! Sure, both are arthropods, but it's like generalizing that frogs and humans are both reptiles because they're chordates, when neither of them really are! --[[User:CompliensCreator|CompliensCreator]] ([[User talk:CompliensCreator|talk]]) 23:56, 25 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
:::::That's a conversation from 8 years ago. Anyways, please note that they're called Melon ''Bug''s, which would at least imply that they're insects, if not specifically of order ''Hemiptera''. Admittedly, "Sow Bug" and "Pill Bug" are common names for certain isopods, but that's a bit beside the point. There's also no source outright stating that they ''are'' isopods, they might just be similar. After all, scorpions have a similar body structure to lobsters, and they're completely different types of arthropods themselves. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:13, 26 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
:::::Their japanese name don't consider them as bugs, and what does the Advance 3 Japanese guide says about it though? I don't know Japanese, and to be sure they were intended to be bugs, we should read their Japanese description in the Advance 3 Guide. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 06:20, 26 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
[[media:Advance 3 Shogakukan P16.png|''Advance 3'' Shogakukan description:]] | |||
<span class="explain" title="ちか">近</span>づくと<span class="explain" title="たま">玉</span>になって<span class="explain" title="ころ">転</span>がってくるが、ふれても<span class="explain" title="いた">痛</span>くないし、タマゴで<span class="explain" title="たお">倒</span>すこともできる。<span class="explain" title="た">食</span>べてはき<span class="explain" title="だ">出</span>せば、<span class="explain" title="てさ">敵</span>を<span class="explain" title="たお">倒</span>しながら<span class="explain" title="ころ">転</span>がって<span class="explain" title="い">行</span>くぞ。 | |||
My translation: | |||
''Approaching makes it roll into a ball and although it comes, its touch isn't even harmful, but an egg can defeat it. If eaten and exhaled, it will defeat enemies while rolling forward.'' | |||
Note that [https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book11/P150130316.JPG the ''Super Famicom'' version] uses different text, but it's hard to make out all the characters with the current scan, though I'm pretty sure it also doesn't mention anything about melons or bugs. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:50, 26 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 21:33, January 18, 2022
Insect?[edit]
Are these guys considered insects? Their name suggests that they are, but they sure don't look very insect-like... They have those antennae... --YellowYoshi398 16:12, 16 February 2007 (EST)
I thought they were a type of beetle. -- Sir Grodus
Insects...? They are I guess. 
Paper Jorge (Talk·Contribs)
The... Player's Guide? 
3D, collecting Player's Guides!
Their name implies that they're bugs. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Their Japanese name (「ころがりくん」korogari-kun) doesn't, neither does their German name, or any official information. They shouldn't be classified as insects just because of their English name imo.--vellidragon 17:07, 21 January 2010 (EST)
- Not sure if they're insects, but I agree that the English name alone isn't enough. Buzzy Beetles are also not actual beetles even though their localized names imply that. --Grandy02 17:13, 21 January 2010 (EST)
- Not to mention that all bugs are not necessarily insects. --Garlic Man (talk)
- Not sure if they're insects, but I agree that the English name alone isn't enough. Buzzy Beetles are also not actual beetles even though their localized names imply that. --Grandy02 17:13, 21 January 2010 (EST)
- They're isopods! Isopods are a type of crustacean, not a type of insect! Sure, both are arthropods, but it's like generalizing that frogs and humans are both reptiles because they're chordates, when neither of them really are! --CompliensCreator (talk) 23:56, 25 July 2018 (EDT)
- That's a conversation from 8 years ago. Anyways, please note that they're called Melon Bugs, which would at least imply that they're insects, if not specifically of order Hemiptera. Admittedly, "Sow Bug" and "Pill Bug" are common names for certain isopods, but that's a bit beside the point. There's also no source outright stating that they are isopods, they might just be similar. After all, scorpions have a similar body structure to lobsters, and they're completely different types of arthropods themselves. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:13, 26 July 2018 (EDT)
- Their japanese name don't consider them as bugs, and what does the Advance 3 Japanese guide says about it though? I don't know Japanese, and to be sure they were intended to be bugs, we should read their Japanese description in the Advance 3 Guide. --83.156.220.80 06:20, 26 July 2018 (EDT)
- They're isopods! Isopods are a type of crustacean, not a type of insect! Sure, both are arthropods, but it's like generalizing that frogs and humans are both reptiles because they're chordates, when neither of them really are! --CompliensCreator (talk) 23:56, 25 July 2018 (EDT)
Advance 3 Shogakukan description:
近づくと玉になって転がってくるが、ふれても痛くないし、タマゴで倒すこともできる。食べてはき出せば、敵を倒しながら転がって行くぞ。
My translation:
Approaching makes it roll into a ball and although it comes, its touch isn't even harmful, but an egg can defeat it. If eaten and exhaled, it will defeat enemies while rolling forward.
Note that the Super Famicom version uses different text, but it's hard to make out all the characters with the current scan, though I'm pretty sure it also doesn't mention anything about melons or bugs. LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:50, 26 July 2018 (EDT)
