User talk:OmegaNix

Enemy formations

Since you did Sticker Star and Color Splash, are you going to do an enemy formation page for Paper Mario: The Origami King? I have some leads (namely, how to extract the battle sets from the data and figure out which enemies trigger which set) that would be useful for that. Scrooge200 (talk) 03:40, January 4, 2026 (EST)

I've noticed each enemy in the overworld has an assigned puzzle and formation and took screenshots for each puzzle (though I may have to redo the entire thing since I forgot to change console language to English, whoops). Still need to figure out how wave battles work, since there seems to be formation changes sometimes when you fight two enemies in a wave battle rather than in two separate fights. -- OmegaNix (talk) 10:08, January 4, 2026 (CET)

Certain battles have "linked" wave battles, where after you beat the first battle, the next specified one will start immediately. Most of these end with "_Wav". I don't think there are any cases where the second wave formation is used from encountering just one enemy? Scrooge200 (talk) 04:17, January 4, 2026 (EST)

At one point when hitting a Pokey in Scorching Sandpaper, there was a nearby Dry Bones so both enemies jumped for a wave battle, and got this formation: Wave 1 - 4 Pokey + 4 Dry Bones Wave 2 - 4 Pokey + 4 Buzzy Beetle However, I later fought the same Pokey and Dry Bones except they weren't close enough to each other to trigger the wave battle, getting: Dry Bones: 4 Dry Bones + 4 Buzzy Beetle Pokey: 8 Pokey The puzzles were the same when fought separately than in a wave battle, but it seems the game can mix the enemies when combining certain battles? In linked wave battles (like 16 Cheep Cheep jumpscare in Great Sea), only the first wave formation is used when fighting a single enemy. Only exception I've found is the first two Shy Guys in Overlook Mountain, which seem to have completely different puzzles when fought together... -- OmegaNix (talk) 12:41, January 4, 2026 (CET)

Here is every case of linked wave battles. These should be consistent, and most are for event battles. I'm not sure how the other ones work, but I can do some testing later.

Room	Set names	Wave 1 enemies	Wave 2 enemies	Wave 3 enemies
Peach's Castle - Balcony	*W0C1_CG_KUR_01 W0C1_CG_HEI_01	4 Goomba	4 Shy Guy
Whispering Woods - Forest	*W1C1_LF_KUR_01 W1C1_LF_KUR_01_2	4 Goomba	4 Goomba
Toad Town	*W1G1_KT_KUR_01 W1G1_KT_KUR_01_02	4 Goomba	4 Goomba
Graffiti Underground - Third Basement	W1C2_BT_MIX_01 W1C2_BT_MIX_02	4 Scaredy Rat, 4 Swoop	4 Scaredy Rat, 4 Swoop
Overlook Mountain	W1G3_O_TGZ_GIZA W1G3_O_TGZ_GIZA_Wav	8 Spiny	8 Spiny
Autumn Mountain	W2G1_SUSUKINO_HEI04 W2G1_SUSUKINO_HEI05	1 Shy Guy, 1 Koopa Troopa, 1 Goomba, 1 Paragoomba	1 Shy Guy, 1 Spiny, 1 Goomba, 1 Paragoomba
Water Vellumental Shrine - Groovier Panel Room	W2C2_PGB_KNK_01 W2C2_PGB_KNK_01_Wav	8 Red Sidestepper, 4 Blue Sidestepper	4 Red Sidestepper, 8 Blue Sidestepper
Ninja Attraction - Thwomp Walls	W2C4_PW_HKN_01 W2C4_PW_HKN_02 W2C4_PW_HKN_03	12 Ninji	8 Ninji	12 Ninji
Shogun Studios	EVENT_SET_04 EVENT_SET_04_Wav	4 Goomba	8 Goomba
The Princess Peach - Lounge	L_MUC_1_MUCHO L_MUC_1_MUCHO_Wav	8 Snifits	8 Snifits
The Princess Peach - Engine Room	ORI_GASA_0_EVENT ORI_GASA_0_EVENT_WAV	12 Scuttlebugs	8 Scuttlebugs
The Great Sea	W4G1_FishG_PUK_BIG1 W4G1_FishG_PUK_BIG1_Wav	12 Cheep Cheep	16 Cheep Cheep
The Great Sea	W4G1_FishG_PUK_BIG2 W4G1_FishG_PUK_BIG2_Wav	12 Cheep Cheep	16 Cheep Cheep
Ice Vellumental Mountain - Easy Puzzle	W4C2_PE_BRSM_BTL W4C2_PE_BRSM_BTL_Wave	1 Sledge Bro, 3 Ice Bro, 4 Blue Sidestepper	1 Sledge Bro, 9 Ice Bro, 2 Hammer Bro
Shangri-Spa	W5G1_SIWASPA_EVENTBTL W5G1_SIWASPA_EVENTBTL_Wav	12 Goomba	12 Goomba
Spring of Jungle Mist - Deep Jungle	O_TARZAN_01_BTL O_TARZAN_01_BTL_Wav	8 Grass Ninji	8 Grass Ninji
Spring of Jungle Mist - Deep Jungle	ZNR_HCN_6_BTL ZNR_HCN_3_BTL	4 Stingby, 4 Fire Piranha Plant	4 Stingby, 4 Fire Piranha Plant
Bowser's Castle - Main Hall	W5C3_EVENT_BTL W5C3_EVENT_BTL_Wav	4 Li'l Cutout Soldier	4 Li'l Cutout Soldier
Origami Castle - Section F	W6C2_SecF_BRSH_BTL W6C2_SecF_BRSH_Wav	4 Sledge Bro, 4 Hammer Bro	1 Sledge Bro, 7 Hammer Bro
Origami Castle - Enemy Rush	W6C2_ZakoRUSH W6C2_ZakoRUSH_Wav W6C2_ZakoRUSH_Wav2	2 Goomba, 2 Koopa Troopa, 3 Fire Bro, 2 Ice Bro, 1 Boomerang Bro, 1 Sledge Bro, 1 Buzzy Beetle	2 Goomba, 2 Koopa Troopa, 2 Fire Bro, 2 Ice Bro, 2 Boomerang Bro, 2 Hammer Bro	1 Goomba, 2 Koopa Troopa, 2 Hammer Bro, 2 Fire Bro, 2 Ice Bro, 1 Boomerang Bro, 1 Spiny, 1 Ninji

I was able to confirm that non-linked wave battles aren't listed anywhere in the battle data set, but are actually generated based on the sets of the encountered enemies. What I did was set two enemy encounters so that one used a set of eight Fly Guys and the other used a set of eight Black Shy Guys. I let them both Wave Battle me at once and got a two-wave battle where each wave had four Fly Guys and four Black Shy Guys. I'm not sure how it distributes the puzzles or enemies, but it's interesting to have it confirmed. (see) Scrooge200 (talk) 21:19, January 4, 2026 (EST)

Interestingly, I only got wave 1 in the Origami King Section F fight. It's a scripted battle too, so maybe you only get W6C2_SecF_BRSH_Wav under certain conditions? -- OmegaNix (talk) 9:17, January 5, 2026 (CET)

I checked this out, and it's actually a rather funny oversight. The Hammer Bros and Sledge Bro that battle you all use the battle encounter W6C2_SecF_BRSH_BTL. This does not have a linked wave battle. Rather, the links are in W6C2_SecF_BRSH_Wav. The programmers accidentally gave the link to the second wave instead of the first, so it never triggers like it's supposed to. Scrooge200 (talk) 03:41, January 5, 2026 (EST)

Are you also considering the Battle Lab Ring Trainer sets? The Ringer is always the same, I believe, so there are 30 sets for that. 001 to 010 are Easy, 011 to 020 are Normal, 021 to 030 are Hard. 101 to 310 are used in the Speed Rings mode. The _GROUP ones are entirely identical to The Ringer set and I don't think they're even used, they're not referenced in the scripts like every other encounter here. Here's a list of them:

The Ringer	Speed Rings	The Ringer (Groups)
LAB_PZL_001 LAB_PZL_002 LAB_PZL_003 LAB_PZL_004 LAB_PZL_005 LAB_PZL_006 LAB_PZL_007 LAB_PZL_008 LAB_PZL_009 LAB_PZL_010 LAB_PZL_011 LAB_PZL_012 LAB_PZL_013 LAB_PZL_014 LAB_PZL_015 LAB_PZL_016 LAB_PZL_017 LAB_PZL_018 LAB_PZL_019 LAB_PZL_020 LAB_PZL_021 LAB_PZL_022 LAB_PZL_023 LAB_PZL_024 LAB_PZL_025 LAB_PZL_026 LAB_PZL_027 LAB_PZL_028 LAB_PZL_029 LAB_PZL_030	LAB_PZL_101 LAB_PZL_102 LAB_PZL_103 LAB_PZL_104 LAB_PZL_105 LAB_PZL_106 LAB_PZL_107 LAB_PZL_108 LAB_PZL_109 LAB_PZL_110 LAB_PZL_201 LAB_PZL_202 LAB_PZL_203 LAB_PZL_204 LAB_PZL_205 LAB_PZL_206 LAB_PZL_207 LAB_PZL_208 LAB_PZL_209 LAB_PZL_210 LAB_PZL_301 LAB_PZL_302 LAB_PZL_303 LAB_PZL_304 LAB_PZL_305 LAB_PZL_306 LAB_PZL_307 LAB_PZL_308 LAB_PZL_309 LAB_PZL_310	LAB_PZL_001_GROUPA LAB_PZL_002_GROUPA LAB_PZL_003_GROUPA LAB_PZL_011_GROUPA LAB_PZL_012_GROUPA LAB_PZL_013_GROUPA LAB_PZL_004_GROUPB LAB_PZL_005_GROUPB LAB_PZL_006_GROUPB LAB_PZL_014_GROUPB LAB_PZL_015_GROUPB LAB_PZL_021_GROUPB LAB_PZL_007_GROUPC LAB_PZL_008_GROUPC LAB_PZL_009_GROUPC LAB_PZL_016_GROUPC LAB_PZL_017_GROUPC LAB_PZL_022_GROUPC LAB_PZL_010_GROUPD LAB_PZL_018_GROUPD LAB_PZL_019_GROUPD LAB_PZL_023_GROUPD LAB_PZL_024_GROUPD LAB_PZL_025_GROUPD LAB_PZL_020_GROUPE LAB_PZL_026_GROUPE LAB_PZL_027_GROUPE LAB_PZL_028_GROUPE LAB_PZL_029_GROUPE LAB_PZL_030_GROUPE

Scrooge200 (talk) 01:14, January 8, 2026 (EST)

I didn't include the Battle Lab puzzles since they're not really enemies, though it would be interesting to compile all the puzzles for a separate article (screenshotting all 210 Speed Rings puzzles will take a long time... 💀) I'd assume these 210 sets include every existing ring puzzle in the game. -- OmegaNix (talk) 20:45, January 8, 2026 (CET)

There are actually only 30 possible sets for each mode (The Ringer and Speed Rings), and I think a few of them have overlap. The Ringer is the same for every level and difficulty. Scrooge200 (talk) 15:12, January 8, 2026 (EST)