User talk:Lemmyistrans

re:Edit summary

my edit summary was meant to display genuine incomprehension at the edit in question. if you felt offended by that, I will admit that I may baveen a tad rude to a new user and I am sorry.

also fyi:

-Please sign your comments with --~~~~ in the future. You only have to click on the 2nd to last button in the edit toolbar.

-re your comments on baby luigi's talk: she isn't an admin. --Glowsquid (talk) 17:30, 22 March 2016 (EDT)

It's fine, just thought I'd let you know, and thank you! Sorry I still don't really understand how the site works! And I really thought Baby Luigi was an admin, huh, sorry about that!!! Sorry I get confused easily sorry sorry!! --Lemmyistrans (talk) 17:46, 22 March 2016 (EDT)

Re:Courtesy

Well, I'm sorry if I called you incompetent. I didn't really mean any harm, I'm just doing my job as quality control for this wiki. It's genuinely hard to distinguish between laziness and genuine effort to make articles better, the former (that being laziness) which irritates far more than doing the best of your abilities. It seems to me that you seem like you're in the latter category, making an effort to make this wiki better. Also, I had no idea that you're a foreign speaker, so I understand that it's tough to get your ideas across in a foreign language. Generally speaking, many people aren't exactly courteous here 100% of the time either, and those rules get broken frequently anyway; I don't think it's a good idea to cite the rules when you're having problems with more experienced users trying (aka me) to have quality control here.

Thanks for voicing your concerns, and keep contributing to MarioWiki. Ray Trace^(T|C) 20:08, 19 April 2016 (EDT)

It's ok, it was just I'm a new user and especially was a new user, so it kind of made me feel a bit bad and. I don't know, unwelcome? I'm not entirely sure what ideas you're referring to, I thought I'd been pretty elaborate on things, but I guess not? Still, it's good you're doing your job but it was kind of unnecessary to call a new user incompetent behind their back... I made the change because nobody wanted to give me sourcing on Motley's pronouns, so I changed them to they/them since that's what you do in English when you don't know a person's gender or pronouns, I don't need to be a native speaker to know that, not with the internet around :3c I know some people just edit in/out random things for no reason but in my case there was a discussion about it so it wasn't really random, I was worried I'm not allowed to edit it without someone's permission but nobody would give me sources and I didn't wanna take up the whole talk page so I changed it for the time being until somebody proved Motley had canon pronouns, which glowsquid eventually did and reverted it back! As you probably saw, by the way, the edit summary was confusion of why it was made not because it was grammatically incorrect or something... Just because "everyone does it" doesn't mean you should, it's still technically against the rules and it's just, well, flat out rude in general, they're there for a reason... And wait wait, I didn't cite the rules because i was having problems with you having quality control, I cited them because you literally broke several of the courtesy rules which both gives a really bad impression for the wiki (you being a patroller(? I think? Sorry if I'm mistaken dfjghsdjkh) and all) and sets a bad example, I feel like a patroller(??) saying it's ok to break the rules isn't a very good impression on other (especially new) users, no offence of course just uh... Also, don't view yourself higher than me because you've been here longer, you're still able to mess up, which is ok, people mess up all the time! But it's not a bad thing of someone, new or old user, to address it when you do, it's just treating you as an equal.

Thanks for apologizing at least! I'm still kind of confused and I'd appreciate if you elaborated on what you meant a little but, uh, thanks? Thanks!! --Lemmyistrans (talk) 02:08, 20 April 2016 (EDT)

I'm not a Patroller, but users don't necessarily need ranks to impose authority upon others. All the ranks are are people trusted with more general maintenance of the wiki. While it is true that I'm on an equal playing field as you, power-wise, more experience means that I generally know what I'm doing and therefore, I normally don't need to get reminded of rules that I'm aware of. Also, I didn't say you were incompetent behind back, I legitimately did not know the account was owned by you, I thought it was another user unrelated to the IP who didn't care. The rules, on another hand, are just a general guideline, not a strictly-imposed thing; otherwise, too many users would be struck with a reminder that they're acting discourteously. There's a saying that you should know the rules so you can break them properly; this saying applies to the rules we set up here. The reason experienced users get more of a leeway is that they're more trusted and that they've been here longer, so you know that all of their edits are made in good faith. People are complex emotionally, and they would make a whoopsie once in a while, but I personally don't think it's enough to warrant them punitive action. Ray Trace^(T|C) 16:32, 20 April 2016 (EDT)