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1. It would balance out the male human to female human ratio, 4 male and 4 female. | 1. It would balance out the male human to female human ratio, 4 male and 4 female. | ||
2. She is not a princess, making | 2. She is not a princess, making her different from the other woman in the series. | ||
3. She looks completely different from the other girls. She has dark hair, a tight red dress, make-up, gold accessories, big lips, a different hair style, different eyes, different colour shoes, larger breasts and overall it made up differently. Variety is a good thing. | 3. She looks completely different from the other girls. She has dark hair, a tight red dress, make-up, gold accessories, big lips, a different hair style, different eyes, different colour shoes, larger breasts and overall it made up differently. Variety is a good thing. | ||
4.Some people say she looks to sultry for a Mario game | 4.Some people say she looks to sultry for a Mario game. I disagree although it's kind of true she still looks very cartoonish and cutesy like the other girls, with the big eyes and so on. | ||
5. She was the 1st ever Mario damsel in distress without her, no Mario no Donkey Kong. She needs some love too. | 5. She was the 1st ever Mario damsel in distress without her, there would be no Mario and no Donkey Kong. She needs some love too. | ||
6. Some people say "She is a Donkey Kong character, she can't be in Mario games when she's only been in Donkey Kong games before!" ... Well that arguement is void because Donkey Kong has always appeared in Mario games and nowadays so has Diddy, Funky, Dixie and even Tiny Kong. All of these except for Donkey Kong have never appeared outside of a Spin-off with Mario. So it's obvious that Pauline appearing in a couple games with Mario (and a some small cameos) has just as much right as Diddy, Dixie, Tiny or Funky. | 6. Some people say "She is a Donkey Kong character, she can't be in Mario games when she's only been in Donkey Kong games before!" ... Well that arguement is void because Donkey Kong has always appeared in Mario games and nowadays so has Diddy, Funky, Dixie and even Tiny Kong. All of these except for Donkey Kong have never appeared outside of a Spin-off with Mario. So it's obvious that Pauline appearing in a couple games with Mario (and a some small cameos) has just as much right as Diddy, Dixie, Tiny or Funky. | ||
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9. Some say "She's not as important as Daisy! Why should she come back at all?" Well I like Daisy too BUT ... Technically Pauline appeared in the original Donkey Kongs and the more recent March of the minis making at least 3 game appearances ... where as Daisy only made one in Super Mario Land and she got to come back to become one of the most well know characters around. So if Pauline has technically appeared in more games she should come back too right? | 9. Some say "She's not as important as Daisy! Why should she come back at all?" Well I like Daisy too BUT ... Technically Pauline appeared in the original Donkey Kongs and the more recent March of the minis making at least 3 game appearances ... where as Daisy only made one in Super Mario Land and she got to come back to become one of the most well know characters around. So if Pauline has technically appeared in more games she should come back too right? | ||
10. Still on the "Daisy thing" I know Daisy nowadays has had | 10. Still on the "Daisy thing" I know Daisy nowadays has had many game appearances but, I'm talking non-spinoff appearances, where the ratio of Daisy's starring roles is only 1 (although I hope more one day). Pauline beats her there and deserves to be a Spin-off character too. | ||
11. Baby Daisy got into Mario Kart Wii, without past appearances, or any kind of back story except being an infant form of Daisy, a bit unfair (I do like her too though she is very cute). | 11. Baby Daisy got into Mario Kart Wii, without past appearances, or any kind of back story except being an infant form of Daisy, a bit unfair (I do like her too though she is very cute). | ||
12. Still on the "Baby Daisy" thing . | 12. Still on the "Baby Daisy" thing. What could have happened is they cut her move Bowser Jr. back to the "Small Class" and given Pauline his "Medium Class" spot, right? It's not that I don't like Baby Daisy but, they could have avoided creating a pure spin off Baby and given an old classic some light. | ||
13. Some say "She is dressed to trampy" well actually if you look at the style of her hair and dress she is actually dressed rather Retro (she looks like she might even be referenced from the late 1940s fashion to mid 1960s fashion eras possible). So really she doesn't hold a candle to today's levels of trashiness. So what if she shows a little cleavage a lot of girls do you know. | 13. Some say "She is dressed to trampy" well actually if you look at the style of her hair and dress she is actually dressed rather Retro (she looks like she might even be referenced from the late 1940s fashion to mid 1960s fashion eras possible). So really she doesn't hold a candle to today's levels of trashiness. So what if she shows a little cleavage a lot of girls do you know. | ||
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17. Princess Rosalina got into Mario Kart Wii after only one game appearance, yes it was a recent game appearance and probably one of the best games I've seen, but still Pauline has had just as many game appearances. | 17. Princess Rosalina got into Mario Kart Wii after only one game appearance, yes it was a recent game appearance and probably one of the best games I've seen, but still Pauline has had just as many game appearances. | ||
18. Less important generic enemies like Dry bones, Hammer Bro and Blooper get into games before a human non-generic character is even considered . | 18. Less important generic enemies like Dry bones, Hammer Bro and Blooper get into games before a human non-generic character is even considered. What is that all about? | ||
19. Pauline should | 19. Pauline should have been in Mario Super Sluggers the game is so character heavy it was a crime no to let her in! | ||
20. Pauline has a quickly growing and hopeful fan-base. | 20. Pauline has a quickly growing and hopeful fan-base. | ||
21. It was a big let down that Pauline reappeared after all this time then disappeared again | 21. It was a big let down that Pauline reappeared after all this time then disappeared again. | ||
22. She could be | 22. She could be Partners with Rosalina, even though the two are very different it seems, a lot of Mario Games have partner systems and Rosalina needs one. | ||
23. She's free to hang out with Mario and friends whenever she pleases. She doesn't rule a kingdom, near or far or live in space. So she is easily included, perhaps easier then others. | 23. She's free to hang out with Mario and friends whenever she pleases. She doesn't rule a kingdom, near or far or live in space. So she is easily included, perhaps easier then others. | ||
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24. An interesting point of view is that ALL mario characters have a COLOUR THEME e.g. Luigi=Green, Peach=Pink or Daisy=Yellow. and idea is that Pauline can't be included due to her sharing Red with Mario (who is indeed the MAIN CHARACTER and therefore has more right to it). In the old days this was the case but, in these times of elite game graphics; Luigi's colour is Green and Yoshi's colour is Light Green, both distinctly different shades (Mario Kart Wii and some recent Mario Parties as reference). | 24. An interesting point of view is that ALL mario characters have a COLOUR THEME e.g. Luigi=Green, Peach=Pink or Daisy=Yellow. and idea is that Pauline can't be included due to her sharing Red with Mario (who is indeed the MAIN CHARACTER and therefore has more right to it). In the old days this was the case but, in these times of elite game graphics; Luigi's colour is Green and Yoshi's colour is Light Green, both distinctly different shades (Mario Kart Wii and some recent Mario Parties as reference). | ||
Surely Mario could keep his Primary Red and Pauline could be given a Darker Red, perhaps leaning towards Maroon or Burgundy (and there is always the option of included flecks of Violet in Pauline colour themed objects.) So really with the capabilities of todays consoles there is no problem. | Surely Mario could keep his Primary Red and Pauline could be given a Darker Red, perhaps leaning towards Maroon or Burgundy (and there is always the option of included flecks of Violet in Pauline colour themed objects.) So really with the capabilities of todays consoles there is no problem. | ||
25. One or two people have suggested that she can't be included because she is no ones love interest. That's very silly a woman does not need a male counterpart just to be in a game. | |||
26. to be continued ... | |||
Revision as of 21:26, July 27, 2008
Hello!
Name: Joel
Age: 19
Real info: I am a huge Mario fanatic! Sonic is my second favourite video game series but, I love Mario games 100 times more than Sonic. I have always liked Mario due to it's great characters, enemies and of course the whole Mario world e.g. the mushroom kingdom, Sarasa land ... etc.. So bright and fun.
-I've liked Mario since I was very young we owned the original Donkey Kong on this strange old system that I can't even remember it's name. I was horrible at it only beating it once in my whole life. We also had the NES and the mario games Super Mario Bros. and Dr. Mario. which begun my real love of the Mario series.
-I never owned a a Super Nintendo but, I often played it at friend's houses.
-The Nintendo 64 was one of my families best purchases Mario 64, Mario Kart 64 and Mario Tennis were the games we owned but, I constantly rented the Mario Party series, Mario Golf and Paper Mario. Although I liked Mario I adored playing as the other characters. Paper Mario being my favourite game on that system. We sadly no longer own a N64.
-I brought a Gamecube and own Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Smash Football, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, Mario Kart: Double Dash and Super Smash Bros. Melee (and a few more non-mario titles). And I'm still trying to collect All the Mario Titles for the Gamecube as a personal goal! and I am so happy with all these games!
- I have Gameboy Advance and some Mario games for that as well.
-My brother brought a Wii and I play it more than him. The Mario games we have are Mario Kart Wii and Super Paper Mario. They are both awesome.
Wiki user: I joined this Wiki because it seemed so well run and other people who liked the Marioverse as much as me were as far as the eye could see and I thought my obsession with the series could help in editing articles.
(be warned I do tend to write essays about Mario too easily, so each section of my profile is clearly marked, this allows you to navigate easier)
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Characters
My favourite Characters and why ...
Pauline
I like Pauline because she is so different from the other girls and I think she would make a great addition to the playable cast. I like her design and although we have seen very little of her personality she has a lot Nintendo could build upon quite easily and it is already obvious she has a different personality to any other character. (There is more information on Pauline in the opinions section)
" A raven haired beauty in a tight red dress ... yes please."
Birdo
I'll say it once and I'll say it again, Birdo is a pink, bow wearing, diamond ring loving, make-up using, honking, egg spitting dinosaur ... WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE. Where else are you going to find that amount of win! She really is a very original and cool character. She is very cute and I enjoy playing as her very much her personality is so very sweet. (There is more information on Birdo in the opinions section
"A love struck sweetie who can kick some serious butt"
My opinions
This section is here when I want to express something about a character or game but do not want to put on a talk page because it is too bulky or long.
The Pauline Theory
"I am a Pauline fan and this section is about why I think she should be a playable character in Mario Spin-offs and Sports titles"
1. It would balance out the male human to female human ratio, 4 male and 4 female.
2. She is not a princess, making her different from the other woman in the series.
3. She looks completely different from the other girls. She has dark hair, a tight red dress, make-up, gold accessories, big lips, a different hair style, different eyes, different colour shoes, larger breasts and overall it made up differently. Variety is a good thing.
4.Some people say she looks to sultry for a Mario game. I disagree although it's kind of true she still looks very cartoonish and cutesy like the other girls, with the big eyes and so on.
5. She was the 1st ever Mario damsel in distress without her, there would be no Mario and no Donkey Kong. She needs some love too.
6. Some people say "She is a Donkey Kong character, she can't be in Mario games when she's only been in Donkey Kong games before!" ... Well that arguement is void because Donkey Kong has always appeared in Mario games and nowadays so has Diddy, Funky, Dixie and even Tiny Kong. All of these except for Donkey Kong have never appeared outside of a Spin-off with Mario. So it's obvious that Pauline appearing in a couple games with Mario (and a some small cameos) has just as much right as Diddy, Dixie, Tiny or Funky.
7. Still on the purposed "DK Character thing" She is a human making her more closely related to the Marioverse.
8. She is Mario's ex-girlfriend (and now his good friend) surely that would be important enough for a comeback.
9. Some say "She's not as important as Daisy! Why should she come back at all?" Well I like Daisy too BUT ... Technically Pauline appeared in the original Donkey Kongs and the more recent March of the minis making at least 3 game appearances ... where as Daisy only made one in Super Mario Land and she got to come back to become one of the most well know characters around. So if Pauline has technically appeared in more games she should come back too right?
10. Still on the "Daisy thing" I know Daisy nowadays has had many game appearances but, I'm talking non-spinoff appearances, where the ratio of Daisy's starring roles is only 1 (although I hope more one day). Pauline beats her there and deserves to be a Spin-off character too.
11. Baby Daisy got into Mario Kart Wii, without past appearances, or any kind of back story except being an infant form of Daisy, a bit unfair (I do like her too though she is very cute).
12. Still on the "Baby Daisy" thing. What could have happened is they cut her move Bowser Jr. back to the "Small Class" and given Pauline his "Medium Class" spot, right? It's not that I don't like Baby Daisy but, they could have avoided creating a pure spin off Baby and given an old classic some light.
13. Some say "She is dressed to trampy" well actually if you look at the style of her hair and dress she is actually dressed rather Retro (she looks like she might even be referenced from the late 1940s fashion to mid 1960s fashion eras possible). So really she doesn't hold a candle to today's levels of trashiness. So what if she shows a little cleavage a lot of girls do you know.
14. There was a high resolution cut-scene model of Pauline in Mario vs. Donkey Kong: March of the Minis surely it wouldn't be very hard to make a playable 3D model with that as a starting point?
15. People still complain that Daisy is a palette swap of Peach (even though I don't think that) there is no way any one will be able to claim that about Pauline, due to her differently shaped facial features and body type Nintendo won't be able to just wrap a new look on an old model. Which is always good.
16. She has already been given friendship status with both Mario and Donkey Kong (via the end two cut-scenes of March of the Minis) surely that's enough to build off, or warrant a return.
17. Princess Rosalina got into Mario Kart Wii after only one game appearance, yes it was a recent game appearance and probably one of the best games I've seen, but still Pauline has had just as many game appearances.
18. Less important generic enemies like Dry bones, Hammer Bro and Blooper get into games before a human non-generic character is even considered. What is that all about?
19. Pauline should have been in Mario Super Sluggers the game is so character heavy it was a crime no to let her in!
20. Pauline has a quickly growing and hopeful fan-base.
21. It was a big let down that Pauline reappeared after all this time then disappeared again.
22. She could be Partners with Rosalina, even though the two are very different it seems, a lot of Mario Games have partner systems and Rosalina needs one.
23. She's free to hang out with Mario and friends whenever she pleases. She doesn't rule a kingdom, near or far or live in space. So she is easily included, perhaps easier then others.
24. An interesting point of view is that ALL mario characters have a COLOUR THEME e.g. Luigi=Green, Peach=Pink or Daisy=Yellow. and idea is that Pauline can't be included due to her sharing Red with Mario (who is indeed the MAIN CHARACTER and therefore has more right to it). In the old days this was the case but, in these times of elite game graphics; Luigi's colour is Green and Yoshi's colour is Light Green, both distinctly different shades (Mario Kart Wii and some recent Mario Parties as reference). Surely Mario could keep his Primary Red and Pauline could be given a Darker Red, perhaps leaning towards Maroon or Burgundy (and there is always the option of included flecks of Violet in Pauline colour themed objects.) So really with the capabilities of todays consoles there is no problem.
25. One or two people have suggested that she can't be included because she is no ones love interest. That's very silly a woman does not need a male counterpart just to be in a game.
26. to be continued ...
"Come on Nintendo give a girl a bit of spot light after all these years"
Birdo's Gender
"Before I begin I think Birdo is a girl, and even if she was a male to female transgender dinosaur I'd still think she was awesome."
I'd have to say Birdo's gender is not as important as people seem to think. Of course it should be in the article that Birdo may be/or has been Male, but, the people keep swapping between calling Birdo she and it or worse referring to her as male in a negative fashion, which is strange and a bit annoying.
Also I'd like to mention it's obvious that Birdo wants to be female (weather she is or not) and there for should be referred to as female (whenever possible) because, as we all know a trans-gender person would become very enraged if you continued to call them "Bruce" when they had long since become "Brenda". It's only polite and perhaps just to be consistent, also the word "it" seems crude and a tiny bit biased considering Birdo is/or wants to be a girl and outside of the "Gender controversy" (or games that refer to her as confused directly) section(s) of her article she should probably be referred to as female and I'm pretty sure Nintendo mostly considers her female (Super Smash Bros. Brawl trophy description no with standing as I'm not sure that should be considered 100% canon information as it is no purely a Mario game also I take it as a tiny bit jokey).
Whether Nintendo has confirmed her biological birth Gender consistently or not (consistently not being their strong suit in the Marioverse). Birdo is dressed as and acts like a woman.
Mostly however I'm getting tired of the fact when ever some one mentions Birdo people appear from every where going "IS SHE A GUY OR A GIRL?" "SHE IS A GUY!" "OMG! REALLY EW!" "WTF!" "THAT'S GROSS" and then normal people try to explain the origins of Birdo only to secretly discover that most people don't care and prefer being disgusted by something that you shouldn't care about. (Also people tend to freak out over her Birdo and Yoshi, he doesn't care! Why because he is a very very nice personality wise and not judge mental, he may not be attracted to her love wise because of it but he is nice to her you should be too)
Some people are transgender don't be immature live with it, they did nothing to you, there IS NOTHING wrong with them. It's not even really about Birdo it's about the negative reaction to the idea she might have been male, it's sad to see people get so worked up over a make believe thing in a negative way, I worry how they will treat trans-gender people in the real world and I feel sorry for them because they are so closed minded.
Just quickly it is polite to call a trans-gender person by there preferred gender don't be a tool just do it! Wether you're opinion of a transexual is high or low. Just do it. You don't have to go through you're life being mean for no reason. Try to remember that.
Oh! and of course she has been retconned into a girl so this whole thing is mainly pointless. We are an english speaking wiki and she is a female dinosaur in english speaking countries!
"Birdo is a pink, bow wearing, diamond ring loving, make-up using, honking, egg spitting dinosaur ... WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE. Where else are you going to find that amount of win!"
Quick Notes
This section is for things I just want to get out there.
-I fully support the return of the Koopalings!
