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===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#{{User|Ray Trace}} I personally think creating pages for each individual, nonMario costume is excessive, straddles our coverage, and that's what they all are, glorified alternate costumes, which a lot of repetitive information (*guy* is alternate costume in Super Mario Maker. *some basic info* *what he could do in Super Mario maker*) on repeat. Many of the crossover characters are justified because they had an appearance as playable fighters in Super Smash Bros. If the character does not have adequate information, then just externally link their name to an outside wiki such as in Ayumi's case. Keep in mind that I don't totally agree with our current Smash Bros. coverage either and should be trimmed down.
#{{User|Ray Trace}} I personally think creating pages for each individual, nonMario costume is excessive, straddles our coverage, and that's what they all are, glorified alternate costumes, which a lot of repetitive information (*guy* is alternate costume in Super Mario Maker. *some basic info* *what he could do in Super Mario maker*) on repeat. Many of the crossover characters are justified because they had an appearance as playable fighters in Super Smash Bros. If the character does not have adequate information, then just externally link their name to an outside wiki such as in Ayumi's case. Keep in mind that I don't totally agree with our current Smash Bros. coverage either and should be trimmed down.
#{{User|Glowsquid}} Beside everything said above, I think likening alternate skins (it's in the name!) to fully realized playable characters is not a valid comparison.


===Comments===
===Comments===
@Ray Trace: I think it's perfectly within our coverage and not excessive at all. This isn't a crossover after all, it's a main series Mario game. Encountering a character in a Mario game and then going to the Mario Wiki to find out who the heck they are only to get sent somewhere else (or nowhere at all, in some cases) isn't beneficial to our readers. A simple opening paragraph or two explaining the gist of the character without going into too much detail as we do for any other crossover character and then followed up by an explanation of their role in the game should suffice. I don't think the articles would be repetitive either, as nearly every costume has some variation with their sound effects and their action when you press the up button, and many of them have unique unlock methods and even special event courses tied to them. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:56, March 13, 2021 (EST)
@Ray Trace: I think it's perfectly within our coverage and not excessive at all. This isn't a crossover after all, it's a main series Mario game. Encountering a character in a Mario game and then going to the Mario Wiki to find out who the heck they are only to get sent somewhere else (or nowhere at all, in some cases) isn't beneficial to our readers. A simple opening paragraph or two explaining the gist of the character without going into too much detail as we do for any other crossover character and then followed up by an explanation of their role in the game should suffice. I don't think the articles would be repetitive either, as nearly every costume has some variation with their sound effects and their action when you press the up button, and many of them have unique unlock methods and even special event courses tied to them. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:56, March 13, 2021 (EST)
:The characters that appear here are more like cameos than they truly are guest characters in the same vein as [[Slime (Dragon Quest)]] or [[Platypunk]] are. I think how the list is organized is adequate enough, just externally link their names if basic information on them is a must, as we already do for the series they appear in. In addition, 9-Volt microgames in WarioWare titles have you controlling nonMario characters all the time; none of them that aren't playable in Smash Bros such as Balloon Fighter or Empress Bulbax receive their own articles for that reason. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 15:07, March 13, 2021 (EST)
:The characters that appear here are more like cameos than they truly are guest characters in the same vein as [[Slime (Dragon Quest)]] or [[Platypunk]] are. I think how the list is organized is adequate enough, just externally link their names if basic information on them is a must, as we already do for the series they appear in. In addition, 9-Volt microgames in WarioWare titles have you controlling nonMario characters all the time; none of them that aren't playable in Smash Bros such as Balloon Fighter or Empress Bulbax receive their own articles for that reason. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 15:07, March 13, 2021 (EST)