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:::I agree. Definitely should split these two. [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]] ([[User talk:AwdryFan1997|talk]]) 21:56, June 16, 2020 (EDT)
:::I agree. Definitely should split these two. [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]] ([[User talk:AwdryFan1997|talk]]) 21:56, June 16, 2020 (EDT)


Mini Pipes also appeared in SMW
== Pipes are not warp pipes etc. ==
Ps. I know I shouldn't reply to old comments, but...
[[Special:Contributions/115.64.13.206|115.64.13.206]] 23:44, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:Don't worry. We just have issues with people replying to super old comments with not much information to add. {{User:Mario/sig}} 11:02, June 13, 2023 (EDT)


== Pipes are not warp pipes etc. ==
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Why in the hell does this entry (2006) exist?  Almost every game calls a green pipe a ''pipe''; the only games that use ''warp pipe'' are Mario Parties (2002+) and Super Mario Makers, and the latter only when the pipe leads somewhither.  And can we talk about the Super Mario Bros. name?  I was first confused by SMB as the manual calls the pipes ''flower-pots''!  But Mario Bros. properly calls them ''pipes'', ''water pipes'', or ''waterpipes''.
Why in the hell does this entry (2006) exist?  Almost every game calls a green pipe a ''pipe''; the only games that use ''warp pipe'' are Mario Parties (2002+) and Super Mario Makers, and the latter only when the pipe leads somewhither.  And can we talk about the Super Mario Bros. name?  I was first confused by SMB as the manual calls the pipes ''flower-pots''!  But Mario Bros. properly calls them ''pipes'', ''water pipes'', or ''waterpipes''.


Likewise Nintendo don't use a D-pad or d-pad but a (huge white plus icon, or maybe white crux quadrata)Control pad, Control Pad (in Game Boy, not GameBoy, material), or +Control Pad (in newer material), besides arrow buttons.  A D-pad sounds like a bunch of D buttons, like D1, D2, etc.  You could call the + pad the arrow pad. [[User:Lysdexia|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia|talk]]) 14:55, June 28, 2021 (EDT)
Likewise Nintendo don't use a D-pad or d-pad but a (huge white plus icon, or maybe white crux quadrata)Control pad, Control Pad (in Game Boy, not GameBoy, material), or +Control Pad (in newer material), besides arrow buttons.  A D-pad sounds like a bunch of D buttons, like D1, D2, etc.  You could call the + pad the arrow pad. [[User:Lysdexia|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia|talk]]) 14:55, June 28, 2021 (EDT)
:Well, this is something I've been meaning to bring up: Warp Pipes are sometimes called pipes, but regular, non-transporting pipes are never called Warp Pipes, if I'm not mistaken. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:09, October 18, 2021 (EDT)
:Additionally, ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' only attributes the name 「ワープ土管」 (Warp Pipe) to the ones in the Warp Zone, and uses 「土管」 (pipe) to refer to both decorative and traveling ones. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:53, December 14, 2021 (EST)
::If this is about splitting warp pipe from pipe then I'm going to have to oppose. Not only are they visually identical, share a name most of the time, and have only one functional difference(warping vs. not warping), someone searching for a pipe article is most likely just going to search one of the 2 terms and expect to find any pipe, not specifically the warping/non-warping ones. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 20:42, March 9, 2022 (EST)
:::The takeaway is that the wiki currently defines "Warp Pipe" incorrectly: all warp pipes are pipes, but not all pipes are warp pipes. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:09, March 10, 2022 (EST)
::::Aaaaah, this is about moving to a better name. Sorry I jumped the gun there, yea I'd agree to a move to pipe. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 18:07, March 10, 2022 (EST)


== Super Mario Run ==
== Super Mario Run ==
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Why is nobody answering? [[User:Broque|Broque]] 13:41, August 30, 2021 (EDT)
Why is nobody answering? [[User:Broque|Broque]] 13:41, August 30, 2021 (EDT)
:If you have the information about Warp Pipes in ''Super Mario Run'', you're more than welcome to add it to its own section on the article by yourself. That's why this is a wiki, after all. It must have not been added before simply because no one thought to do so.[[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 16:09, August 30, 2021 (EDT)
:If you have the information about Warp Pipes in ''Super Mario Run'', you're more than welcome to add it to its own section on the article by yourself. That's why this is a wiki, after all. It must have not been added before simply because no one thought to do so.[[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 16:09, August 30, 2021 (EDT)
== Merge [[blue pipe]] and [[yellow pipe]] here ==
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{{ProposalOutcome|passed|10-0|merge}}
The blue "pipe" item is apparently the only pipe in ''Mario Pinball Land'', and blue pipes in the early ''Paper Mario'' games are just color variants used to distinguish the sewer shortcut pipes from the other pipes in the game. Plus, there are blue pipes in other games like ''Partners in Time'' that aren't split.
The same goes for the yellow pipes in ''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga''. The color is specifically used for pipes that lead to the [[Oho Ocean Seabed]] or [[Teehee Valley]]'s underground. They have that mechanic where you have to hold up, B, and A to climb out of them, but that's it. It's just color coding to distinguish them from the "green pipes" which are used as shortcuts for fast travel between locations, much like the blue pipes in ''Paper Mario''.
'''Proposer''': {{User|7feetunder}}<br>
'''Deadline''': October 10, 2021, 23:59 GMT
====Support====
#{{User|7feetunder}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Somethingone}} They're just color variants, per proposal.
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per. I'd also like to point out that the PM blue pipe's case is really no different from the uniquely textured pipes that lead to places like Petal Meadows or Twilight Town.
#{{User|Archivist Toadette}} There's no real distinguishing features for either of those subjects for them to warrant their own articles. Per 7feetunder.
#{{User|Hewer}} I didn't realize this was split but it makes no sense at all so per all.
#{{User|Swallow}} Per all
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} All per.
#{{User|RHG1951}} Per all.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
====Oppose====
====Comments====
== Rename to "Pipe" ==
Shouldn't this page be renamed? "Warp Pipe" isn't used nearly as often, and most major in-game appearances that actually bother to name then simply call them "pipes". Off the top of my head, both ''Super Smash Bros. for 3DS'' and the ''Super Mario Maker'' games simply refer to them as pipes. Furthermore, not all pipes actually let you travel to other locations, so the name isn't really fitting. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 13:44, January 2, 2024 (EST)
:I'm pretty sure Mario & Luigi: Dream Team is the only game I recall the "Warp Pipe" name being used, referring to the ones used to fast travel around Pi'illo Island. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:31, January 2, 2024 (EST)
::A pretty recent instance of "Warp Pipe" in official media is in [https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/mobilenews-wiggler-joins-mario-kart-tour-as-a-driver-in-the-pipe-tour/ this news article] on nintendo.com: "''Navigate an underground network of Warp Pipes and watch for Piranha Plants in new course '''Piranha Plant Pipeline'''!''"<br>Just throwing this out there. I'm all for moving the article to "Pipe", though. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 18:51, February 1, 2024 (EST)
:::Yeah, and this would help acknowledge the fact that the main pipes in the ''Super Mario'' franchise aren't generic, but rather a specific kind. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 18:54, February 1, 2024 (EST)
::::I agree with '''BubbleRevolution'''. Why call every pipe a "Warp Pipe" if only some pipes actually ''warp'' you? {{User:Mariofan28047/sig}} 16:08, April 4, 2024 (EDT)
I forgot when I left my previous comment that Paper Mario: The Origami King also uses the name "Warp Pipe", though primarily for the Musee Champignon pipes which role is similar to the Dream Team Warp Pipes. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 17:29, April 4, 2024 (EDT)
Wouldn't it be a better idea to split Pipe from Warp Pipe instead, then? Not all pipes do let you warp, but the term "Warp Pipe" has still been in use as late as last year, so... {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:56, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
:As I've mentioned [[#Pipes are not warp pipes etc.|here]], it seems that "Warp Pipe" was supposed to be "Warp Zone" Pipes or ones that travel great distances. I don't know if they refer to any (usually under/above-ground) transporting pipe. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:38, April 15, 2024 (EDT)

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