Editing Talk:Super Mario World

Super Mario World is part of Yoshi's series!  I think it should be in the Yoshi template. Drefus2006
{{unsigned|Dreyfus2006}}

No, it isn't. Its "Super Mario". Deal.[[User:HK-47|<font size="4">H</font><font size="1">K</font>]]
:Yoshi is not the ''main'' character, but an ally one of the brothers can pick up. Not a Yoshi game. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span> 16:20, 3 August 2006 (EDT)

Can I add a section for enemies in this article?--[[User:Fg|Fg]] 16:55, 27 January 2007 (EST)

RAP repiles: Hmm... I heard there seems that theres a NES version of this game, should I add extra information about it??

:I wouldn't mind, but you're aware that the NES version is an unofficial, pirated game, right? It is... --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 22:17, 25 February 2007 (EST)

On the world map, there are a few different types of circles indicating that theres a level. Yellow means 1 exit, red means 2 exits. What do the large circles mean? --[[User:Bentendo|Bentendo]] 13:57, 6 March 2007 (EST)

:Correct me if I am wrong, but the circle size usually indicates the size of the level; large circle means longer level. [[User:LReyomeXX|LReyomeXX]] 12:54, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

:From what I'm able to tell the larger circle indicates Mario has 400 seconds instead of 300 to complete the stage. -
[[User:Anonymous]]
== Comment ==

RAP repiles: Hmmm... There are many changes from the SNES to the GBA version; should I list the differences about both versions (SNES & GBA)?
{{unsigned|RAP}}<br>
Yes,why not?
[[User:Gofer]]

RAP repiles: All right; hmm.. What should I start??
{{unsigned|RAP}}<br>
Won't you start with levels?

{{User|Danimario9}}

== Yay! ==
Save that kind of talk for the forums. {{User:Peachycakes 3.14/sig}} 14:07, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

== Relevant Hack...? ==

This seems to have created some YouTube controversy. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwKZXsA2Thg]] --[[User:Galvanic|Galvanic]] 04:41, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
:Dude, its just a hack. {{User:Uniju :D/sig}}
::I agree with Uniju, it is just a hack, it has no importance on this Wiki. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

As the others said, Hack + Relevant = Does not compute.
[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]]

:Alrighty. I never saw anything about it 'till recently, and, seeing other related videos, people seemed to be flaming each other on it. I didn't know how much it spread into fan discussions and such. Thanks for the info. --[[User:Galvanic|Galvanic]] 02:16, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

== Levels ==

I'm a big fan of SMW, and I remember each level, so I'll be working on the articles for the game's levels;  a lot of them are too short, but no one's deleting them. Anyone want to help me? I'm honestly not the greatest writer... {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}}

== Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island ==

*The game has a sequel, Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island; however, instead of taking place after Super Mario World, it took place many years before it. This game tells the story of how Mario was born and plays similar to Super Mario World- The setting of the game is also the same setting as its predecessor. Super Mario World is an unlockable masterpiece in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. To unlock, one must play in the Yoshi's Island stage more than three times.

Does anyone else feel that a little too much time is spent describing the sequel? This article is about Super Mario World, not its sequel. SMW2 should be mentioned, as well as the date released in comparison to SMW and any other relevant details relating to its production as the original idea was introduced, but that's it. We can leave the story and gameplay to the actual SMW2 article. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 22:19, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
:Describing the plot was too much, so I shortened the SMW2:YI exposition a little and made sure it's more SMW-centric. Good spotting. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 23:58, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
::Looks much better now. Thanks for making it more appropriately lengthed. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 02:22, 22 March 2009 (EDT)
:::BTW, it just goes from Mario World to [[Mario 64]]. Yoshi's Island is just part of the Yoshi series.{{User:KoopaMan/sig}}

== Super Mario Bros. ==

I think this game should be considered part of the Super Mario Bros. series because in Japan it's even called, Super Mario Bros. 4: Super Mario World. [[User:Lemmy Koopa Fan]]

== Manual Artwork ==

Just to tell everybody: I scanned the manual and cut out all official artwork from it. I will upload them within the next few days, it's a whole 80 images. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 19:39, 23 January 2010 (EST)

== Super Mario Bros. 2 ==
Has anyone seen this little video on youtube? And also, do you think I could put it up in the Trivia section or something? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq7uMShgyb8&feature=related
{{unsigned|Ironnice}}
:<s>Uhm... it is a video about a remix. What exactly do you want to add to the trivia section about it?</s> - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 00:22, 7 March 2010 (EST)
:Nevermind, I was wrong. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 00:24, 7 March 2010 (EST)
 
Um..OK I'll put it up then. {{unsigned|Ironnice}}

== ? Ball ==

Shouldn't we just say the ? Ball is needed to complete [[Sunken Ghost Ship]], because it is only on that level? {{User:Yoshiwaker47/sig}}
:Makes sense to me. "Certain levels" implies there's more than one level where it appears, which is wrong, and as it's only in a single one, there's no reason not to be specific about which one; it won't really make the section any longer or harder to read.--[[User:Vellidragon|vellidragon]] 16:39, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==

Would Super Mario World be considered a sequel to SMB3?
if so then would NSMB considered a sequel to SMW.{{unsigned|IGGY7735}}
:No, I think they're different games entirely. And this game already has a sequel... {{User|Marioguy1}}

== P-Balloon ==

Is it ok that i put the P-Balloon in the power-up section since it changes your form and allows you to fly for a limited amount of time {{User|Iggykoopa}}

==NES Version==
A pirated version of Super Mario World seems to exist.[http://www.nesplayer.com/pirates/smw.htm] Should something be noted? {{unsigned| FangedGoomba1014}}

:no we've had this discussion before pirated games are unofficial and should not be included {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}


::Goomba Shoe's right. I once made the page Super Mario World (NES) and it got deleted.{{User:KoopaMan/sig}}

:::NES is pirated and this version is awful and dull (since it is a hack). You cannot add! Unlicensed. Also, you start with 15 lives instead of 5. The score (points) does not work properly. Iggy Koopa is replaced by Reznors. There are only 3 reznors. The level numbering is not arranged properly e.g. [[Forest Fortress]] --> [[Roy's Castle]]. The music is awful. It hurts our ears! Out-tuned. The music in Chocolate island is Vanilla Dome. The music of the Super Star is Valley of Bowser. Valley of Bowser has sea! Bowser's Castle has a Valley entrance (as #7 castle). There is no Larry Koopa! --[[User:Mario091|Mario091]] ([[User talk:Mario091|talk]]) 07:19, 12 September 2014 (EDT)

==Prize==

I think that I have found the Special world prize for the remake. DooPliss42 15:38, 11 August 2011 (EDT) 15:36, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

== Story Section ==

Seems a bit of a fanfic masquerading as a story. I think that some parts would be better if placed into other sections describing the gameplay and world. Thoughts? [[User:Lunchbox|Lunchbox]] 21:48, 6 January 2012 (EST)

==Sales Speak==
I'm Paper Mario Kart and welcome to another Sales Speak! This game has 20.61 million for the original and for the GBA remake it has 5.46 as of 1/27/12.{{unsigned|Paper Mario Kart}}

==Differences==
<s>I have a Japanese copy of Super Mario World which has some differences than the international copies.
Should've make a sub-page ('''[[Super Mario World/Regional Differences]]''') for this if it doesn't exist? 
{{User:Danimario9/sig}}</s>

:Make a proposal about it, rather than just creating a brand new type of subpage. If we have one such page, we should aim to have "Differences" pages for all the games (or as many as possible), so it's a pretty hefty project. Also, any page we make would need to be significantly different than [http://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_World/Version_Differences This other website's page]: the page that was created before (which the admins agreed needed to be deleted) was a blatant rip-off of TCRF's page, and plagiarism isn't acceptable at all. As well as reorganizing the content and rewriting everything from scratch (not just rephrasing their text), they need to be credited for all the images and have their page be placed in the External Links section, in order to be fair about who came up with the info. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 18:26, 5 April 2012 (EDT)

== "Para-Galoombas" ==

I don't get it. Para-[[Galoomba]]s are not actual enemies. Where did this information come from? [[File:Yoshis Story Bobomb.png|35px]][[User: RandomDSplayer|RandomDS]][[User Talk: RandomDSplayer|player]][[File:Yoshis Story Bobomb.png|35px]] 12:48, 3 January 2014 (EST)
:Um, yes they are. These Goombas in Super Mario World are called Galoombas based on the info from Super Mario 3D World. So it's safe to assume that the winged or the parachuting Galoombas are Paragaloombas. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 12:50, 3 January 2014 (EST)
::Paragaloombas are galoombas with wings, just as how Paragoombas are Goombas with wings. For some reason, we don't have an article devoted to Paragaloomba at this time being. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 12:52, 3 January 2014 (EST)
:::They're acknowledged in the Galoomba article, though, and for some reason, they're in the Paragoomba article. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 12:53, 3 January 2014 (EST)
::::Para-[[Galoomba]] is conjectural, as there is no official source claiming that the name is official. [[File:Yoshis Story Bobomb.png|35px]][[User: RandomDSplayer|RandomDS]][[User Talk: RandomDSplayer|player]][[File:Yoshis Story Bobomb.png|35px]] 12:57, 3 January 2014 (EST)
:::::Inference states that Paragaloomba is the best fit for Galoomba with wings, then. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 12:59, 3 January 2014 (EST)
::::::There are also parachuting Galoombas though. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:00, 3 January 2014 (EST)

== Kaizo Mario ==

Should we talk about Kaizo Mario, an extremely difficult ROM hack for Super Mario World? I know it's not official so my idea my not get positive reviews but it's just a thought.[[File:Yoshi logo.png|100px|link=User:YoshiAwsumness]][[User talk:YoshiAwsumness|Awsum!!!!!]] 20:20, 23 January 2014 (EST)
No, if it was a hack made by Nintendo, it it could be put in, but it's unofficial so we should not. --[[User:Mariofan5000|Mariofan5000]] ([[User talk:Mariofan5000|talk]]) 00:14, 24 January 2014 (EST)


== TCRF Changes ==

Should someone change the images for the 96 exits screens to reflect the changes on TCRF? --[[User:Naruto_64|Naruto_64]] ([[User talk:Naruto_64|talk]]) 07:56, 5 August 2016 (PDT)

==Reworking this Article==

So I came across this article earlier and I feel like it's in need of a reconstruction. Specifically speaking, the inconsistencies of the "Enemies" part of the article strike me as particularly odd. Though I'm unsure what could be done, I guess you could either replace the sprites that are currently in use with, for example, the pictures from the end of the game, or you could at least replace some of it so there's less of a weird mixture between animated and non-animated sprites. Also, I guess there's a problem with large-scale enemies like the Boo Rings and Clusters, so I guess you could get some other way of imagery about this.

I felt like I should ask what everyone thinks before taking on a significant change like this on my own. -{{User:Freakworld/Sig}} 09:41, 20 August 2016 (EDT)

:Hey Freakworld! You bring up a great point, I definitely have problems with the enemy section too. The mix between animated and static images isn't ideal. And the overly large objects (namely the Column) and the full screenshots showing the groups of Boos causes the table rows to become excessively tall, and leaves a lot of empty space around the text.

:To me, the animation isn't necessary. Although the [[Boo Buddy Block]] is useful in showing the transformation, it would acceptable to have a static image only showing the block. The sprite of the [[Kamikaze Koopa]] could be left an an exception to show the animation.

:As for image size, I think we shouldn't show anything much larger than a Banzai Bill sprite (64x64px). I think the larger sprites or enemies which take up more space should instead be shown through a small portion of a screenshot. Just now, I've cropped portions of those full Boo screenshots, which have now been replaced in the table. I think this could be the solution with that stupidly large Column sprite, too.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 17:27, 20 August 2016 (EDT)
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 Super Mario World is part of Yoshi's series!  I think it should be in the Yoshi template. Drefus2006
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 I'm a big fan of SMW, and I remember each level, so I'll be working on the articles for the game's levels;  a lot of them are too short, but no one's deleting them. Anyone want to help me? I'm honestly not the greatest writer... {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}}
-The articles on each level are excellent!  Can we list them in this article somewhere?  Would be great it the ToC listed the level names so people could jump straight to them from this article itself.  Maybe just a simple sub-heading after each "world" name. [[User:Deminjanu|Deminjanu]] ([[User talk:Deminjanu|talk]]) 10:47, 30 October 2017 (EDT)
 == Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island ==
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 == Kaizo Mario ==
-Should we talk about Kaizo Mario, an extremely difficult ROM hack for Super Mario World? I know it's not official so my idea my not get positive reviews but it's just a thought.{{User:YoshiAwsumness/sig}} 20:20, 23 January 2014 (EST)
+Should we talk about Kaizo Mario, an extremely difficult ROM hack for Super Mario World? I know it's not official so my idea my not get positive reviews but it's just a thought.[[File:Yoshi logo.png|100px|link=User:YoshiAwsumness]][[User talk:YoshiAwsumness|Awsum!!!!!]] 20:20, 23 January 2014 (EST)
 No, if it was a hack made by Nintendo, it it could be put in, but it's unofficial so we should not. --[[User:Mariofan5000|Mariofan5000]] ([[User talk:Mariofan5000|talk]]) 00:14, 24 January 2014 (EST)
 == TCRF Changes ==
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 :{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 17:27, 20 August 2016 (EDT)
-== Duplication Glitch ==
-You know the glitch with the shell and you can duplicate question blocks? It's pretty easy, and it should be noted. [[User:LuigiSauce|LuigiSauce]] ([[User talk:LuigiSauce|talk]]) 13:15, 9 April 2017 (EDT)
-:Already covered on this page: [[List of Super Mario World glitches#Duplicating block]]. <br>{{User:Luigi 64DD/sig}} 15:35, 9 April 2017 (EDT)
-== Decoy Dolls ==
-Since they are named in the encyclopedia, which we don't cite, how are we going to do with them? Use their Japanese name, or dig or wait? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 07:49, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
-:Specifically what Lemmy and Wendy use. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:07, June 7, 2019 (EDT)
-::Also, which quote mention them in the Nintendo Power guide? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:12, June 8, 2019 (EDT)
-:::The closest mentions in ''Mario Mania'': "''Lemmy and two fake Koopalings emerge from the pipes randomly.''" on page 87 and "''The illustrious Wendy O. Koopa makes her appearance with two Wendy stand-ins. You’ve got to single out and stomp the real Wendy three times, or the flames and decoys will send you reeling.''" on page 131. Note that there was a Prima guide for ''Super Mario Advance 2'', but I don't have it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:42, June 8, 2019 (EDT)
-::::Then what are we going to do if we don't cite the encyclopedia? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:03, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
-:::::There's also ''Nintendo Power Advance'' V.4: "''Lemmy and his two Lemmy decoys pop in and out of their pipes, trying to grab you.''" on page 43, and on page 69: "''Bowser’s only Koopette, Wendy, surrounds herself with decoys and pipes—much like her brother Lemmy.''" and "''When Wendy pops her vain little self out of a pipe, her two decoys join in.''" Maybe "'''decoy'''" would suffice? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:48, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
-::::::It's not a proper name. Since we do have an English name for it (Decoy Doll), but we can't cite the encyclopedia, that's a real problem. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:52, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
-:::::::Yeah, it's a proper name. As far as I can tell, no other Mario enemy uses the term 'decoy', so it works. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 12:53, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
-::::::::It's consistent in this reference, so I'd say it works too. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:58, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
-:::::::::@TheDarkStar, no, it's not a proper name, since it's not capitalized. If the encyclopedia ever gets retranslated, if they use "Decoy", that'd be because of us. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 15:45, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
-::::::::::Uncapitalized terms can count if they are used consistently. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:52, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
-== Proposal to French translation ==
-Mario Wiki is a incredible websote and it should be available to everyone. As a French, I propose myself to translate articles to French so young French users should be able to understand. I want the site to be accessible the most possible. All pf the images and informations will be at the same place, only translated. This page would be the first one and I'll take time to translate others. I hope I do bot mistaken the proposal to this place. I don't lnow anywhere else to propose. {{unsigned|LMLink}}
-==Remove numbers from ''Super Mario World'' Koopaling castle article titles==
-{{SettledTPP}}
-{{ProposalOutcome|no quorum|1-0-3}}
-Currently, the Koopaling castles are an example of a wiki [[MarioWiki:Naming#Technical restrictions|technical restriction]], as a title cannot start with "#". However, while this may be technically true going strictly by in-game names, there is a way we can get around it. Specifically, the game's English guides. Most all of them - namely ''Nintendo Power'' Volume 28, the ''Super NES'' Player's Guide, ''Nintendo Power Advance'' v.4, and ''Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2–Prima’s Official Strategy Guide'' - leave the castle numbers out (''Mario Mania'' presents both). This proposal will refer to these supplementary sources to respectively move 1 Iggy's Castle, 2 Morton's Castle, 3 Lemmy's Castle, 4 Ludwig's Castle, 5 Roy's Castle, 6 Wendy's Castle, and 7 Larry's Castle to Iggy's Castle, Morton's Castle, Lemmy's Castle, Ludwig's Castle, Roy's Castle, Wendy's Castle, and Larry's Castle. There are two options for this proposal: the first will '''mainly''' affect the article titles and piping, so the articles will still be displayed as #1 Iggy's Castle, #2 Morton's Castle, #3 Lemmy's Castle, #4 Ludwig's Castle, #5 Roy's Castle, #6 Wendy's Castle, and #7 Larry's Castle; the second will '''fully''' affect presentation so that the numberless names are prioritized over the numbered ones. The Naming example will have to be modified to account for the change, or possibly the section will have to be removed entirely if the second option passes as I'm not sure what other titles this limitation applies to.
-'''Proposer''': {{User|LinkTheLefty}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': <s>December 31, 2022, 23:59 GMT</s> <s>Extended to January 7, 2023, 23:59 GMT</s> <s>Extended to January 14, 2023, 23:59 GMT</s> Extended to January 21, 2023, 23:59 GMT
-===Remove numbers but prioritize numbered names===
-#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Per loophole.
-===Remove numbers and prioritize numberless names===
-===Keep title limitation as-is===
-#{{User|Hewer}} Per [[MarioWiki:Naming]], [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable sources for naming|in-game names trump guide names]].
-#{{User|Killer Moth}} Per Hewer.
-#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} This isn't a big deal
-===Comments===
-@Hewer: The presentation of these articles will not change if this proposal passes - it is merely to further circumvent the wiki's technical limitations in which the in-game names cannot be used in full. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:15, December 17, 2022 (EST)
-:I don't really see the benefit of the change then given the titles would still not be abiding by usual naming rules either way, and this doesn't really 'further circumvent' it if all we're changing is removing the numbers that wouldn't be seen without editing pages. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 04:48, December 18, 2022 (EST)
-::Then I'll add it as an option. FYI, policy exceptions are allowed via proposal. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 05:47, December 18, 2022 (EST)