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==Blue Noki==
0_O  OMG!  (Blue Noki) is a boy!!,  click here:  http://www.mariosupersluggerscards.com/  {{User:Birdoshi/sig}}
0_O  OMG!  (Blue Noki) is a boy!!,  click here:  http://www.mariosupersluggerscards.com/  {{User:Birdoshi/sig}}


== The Packees, Dune Buddy and Mommy Noki ==
== The Packees, Dune Buddy and Mommy Noki ==
{{talk}}
I have found out that The Packees are named in the encyclopedia (and also found out that their English name is the same as their Japanese name. Dune Buddy is the one who cares about Dune Buds, and Momy Noki is the one that holds it baby. What are we going to do about them if they are named in the encyclopedia? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 07:52, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
I have found out that The Packees are named in the encyclopedia (and also found out that their English name is the same as their Japanese name. Dune Buddy is the one who cares about Dune Buds, and Momy Noki is the one that holds it baby. What are we going to do about them if they are named in the encyclopedia? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 07:52, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
:Packees? Are you talking about the three that introduce themselves in Pinna Park? Pretty sure those called themselves the Buckies or something... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:00, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
:Packees? Are you talking about the three that introduce themselves in Pinna Park? Pretty sure those called themselves the Buckies or something... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:00, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
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== Determine how to handle this page ==
== Determine how to handle this page ==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{TPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|0-0-0-0-9-2|Just split Buckies and merge in the trio info}}
Regarding the above discussion, we have a trio of Nokis collectively referred to as "Buckies", however, the encyclopedia calls them "Packees" both due to misinterpreting the handakuten as a dakuten, and because we didn't add this info earlier. They're called Plucky, Ducky, and Lucky. However, the encyclopedia calls them Mai-Mai, Maki-Maki, and Miru-Miru, reminiscent of their Japanese name, which is also both because he didn't play the game, and because we didn't add this info. The Mommy Noki is called as such in the encyclopedia, although, we can't cite the encyclopedia, and i believe none of the guides distinguish from the normal Nokis. As for the baby, it is neither named, neither seen apart from its mother. Depending on the consensus, i will vote for the option with most votes.
Regarding the above discussion, we have a trio of Nokis collectively referred to as "Buckies", however, the encyclopedia calls them "Packees" both due to misinterpreting the handakuten as a dakuten, and because we didn't add this info earlier. They're called Plucky, Ducky, and Lucky. However, the encyclopedia calls them Mai-Mai, Maki-Maki, and Miru-Miru, reminiscent of their Japanese name, which is also both because he didn't play the game, and because we didn't add this info. The Mommy Noki is called as such in the encyclopedia, although, we can't cite the encyclopedia, and i believe none of the guides distinguish from the normal Nokis. As for the baby, it is neither named, neither seen apart from its mother. Depending on the consensus, i will vote for the option with most votes.


'''Proposer:''' {{User|FanOfYoshi}}<br>
'''Proposer:''' {{User|FanOfYoshi}}
 
'''Deadline:''' August, 28, 2019, 23:59 GMT
'''Deadline:''' August, 28, 2019, 23:59 GMT
===Split everything into separate articles===
===Split everything into separate articles===
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#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
#{{User|Obsessive Mario Fan}} Per all.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all and my thoughts above.
#{{User|Lord Grammaticus}} After reconsidering the comments on the matter, I figure it wouldn't do much harm if any. Per all.


===Don't split anything===
===Don't split anything===
#{{User|TheDarkStar}} - First of all, six options is a bit much. Second, this doesn't need to be a proposal right off the bat. Third, I really don't think that every single minor character that barely does anything needs a character page.
#{{User|TheDarkStar}} - First of all, six options is a bit much. Second, this doesn't need to be a proposal right off the bat. Third, I really don't think that every single minor character that barely does anything needs a character page.
#{{User|Alex95}} - Per my comment.
#{{User|Alex95}} - Per my comment.
<s>#{{User|Lord Grammaticus}} - Per all. I've played the game extensively and have no reason to believe they're anything other than named Noki NPCs.</s>
#{{User|Lord Grammaticus}} - Per all. I've played the game extensively and have no reason to believe they're anything other than named Noki NPCs.
<s>#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Our current coverage, combined with the fact that we apparently didn't even mention these characters for years until the Encyclopedia pointed them out, and the proposer have all failed to convince me that these characters are significant enough to deserve articles of their own.</s>
<s>#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Our current coverage, combined with the fact that we apparently didn't even mention these characters for years until the Encyclopedia pointed them out, and the proposer have all failed to convince me that these characters are significant enough to deserve articles of their own.</s>


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:::::::::Thing is, RPGs are different from platformers, in that talking to NPCs is normally a large part of RPGs. The NPCs we have covered at the moment actually do things besides nothing. <s>Great, now we're blaming ourselves for the encyclopedia's mistakes, how nice.</s> {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 11:27, August 16, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::Thing is, RPGs are different from platformers, in that talking to NPCs is normally a large part of RPGs. The NPCs we have covered at the moment actually do things besides nothing. <s>Great, now we're blaming ourselves for the encyclopedia's mistakes, how nice.</s> {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 11:27, August 16, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::They are different form platformers, but that does not stop us from covering platformer aspects in RPG games. Even though NPCs are not the focus in platforming games, they still are a part of the game that should be covered. And characters such as the previously mentioned Traveling Sisters 3 are characters that don't do much either except for travelling to different places, but we still cover them. And we are not blaming ourselves for the book's mistakes. However, as our wiki is used more and more, by both official and unofficial sources, it is important that we organize and present our information in more accurate ways, to prevent the users of our wiki making mistakes due to issues with our presentation, such as us merging named characters into a general species page. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 11:34, August 16, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::They are different form platformers, but that does not stop us from covering platformer aspects in RPG games. Even though NPCs are not the focus in platforming games, they still are a part of the game that should be covered. And characters such as the previously mentioned Traveling Sisters 3 are characters that don't do much either except for travelling to different places, but we still cover them. And we are not blaming ourselves for the book's mistakes. However, as our wiki is used more and more, by both official and unofficial sources, it is important that we organize and present our information in more accurate ways, to prevent the users of our wiki making mistakes due to issues with our presentation, such as us merging named characters into a general species page. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 11:34, August 16, 2019 (EDT)
:I don't know if this helps or not, but the mother Noki and the Conch shell Noki have [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp_r79wq8Xc official plushes]. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12:00, August 18, 2019 (EDT)
::<s>What in the solar Underwhere.</s> Interesting, but since they still don't have official names, unless some info shows up at the last second, [[Talk:Ankoopa|Nokottasu-style]], probably no split. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 12:10, August 18, 2019 (EDT)
:::Actually, look at [https://twitter.com/Cheapether/status/1125088946109734912/photo/3 this picture]. Their tags shown Japanese names which are different from generic Noki's and ''Super Mario Sunshine''{{'}}s Japanese names. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 13:09, August 18, 2019 (EDT)
::::According to 2257 on Discord the tags simply say "plush" and "resident of isle delfino", not only not giving them names but also implying that they are generic. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 14:15, August 18, 2019 (EDT)
::Considering the choices for the NPC's plushes, it's likely that those characters were only chosen because of their [[Gallery:Super Mario Sunshine|official artwork]]. The plushes are most likely based on the only Piantas and Nokis that were given official artwork outside of guides. For example, the blue Pianta plush holds a durian, which it only does in its artwork. I just think that's worth noting. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 13:03, August 19, 2019 (EDT)
:::The Mommy Noki does have an unique Japanese name (see above discussiob), but i kinda feel it is unimportant now. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 01:39, August 26, 2019 (EDT)
:Looking at the points made now, I wouldn't object to a split, all things considered, but I don't feel particularly inclined to change my vote just yet. Probably put a pin in it for later. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 02:04, August 26, 2019 (EDT)
== Noki = shell?==
The Trivia section states that "noki" translates to "shell", but in which language does noki mean shell? It certainly isn't Italian, since Italian never uses the letter K except for in loanwords (also, "seashell" in Italian is "conchiglia"). I've tried Googling, but nothing came up. {{,User:KingDDD99/sig}} 00:34, October 23, 2019 (EDT)
== NPC Variety Screenshots ==
I really, really hate asking, but would anyone happen to be willing to get screenshots of the different Noki NPC variations? I myself don't own the game and all the screenshots I got from YouTube are of poor quality. 😖 [[User:GoombaBroadcast|GoombaBroadcast]] ([[User talk:GoombaBroadcast|talk]]) 21:54, June 6, 2020 (EDT)
:Never mind, got the game for a good price and will be adding screenshots in a few weeks. [[User:GoombaBroadcast|GoombaBroadcast]] ([[User talk:GoombaBroadcast|talk]]) 17:26, June 27, 2020 (EDT)

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