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[[User:Perfection|Perfection]] ([[User talk:Perfection|talk]]) 09:30, 27/01/2024 (UTC)
[[User:Perfection|Perfection]] ([[User talk:Perfection|talk]]) 09:30, 27/01/2024 (UTC)


== Change the date scheme and resort by chronology ==
== Broaden the scope ==
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The "YYYY / MM / DD" and "YYYY / MM" readings literally make no sense to me. However, the good news is, I was wondering if there's a possibility to use the "<month> <day>, <year>" and "<month> <year>" readings and improve their sorting using <code><nowiki>{{sort|YYYY / MM / DD|<month> <day>, <year>}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{sort|YYYY / MM|<month> <year>}}</nowiki></code> respectively.
The "XXXX / XX / XX" and "XXXX / XX" readings literally make no sense to me. However, the good news is, I was wondering if there's a possibility to use the "<month> <day>, <year>" and "<month> <year>" readings and improve their sorting using <code><nowiki>{{sort|XXXX / XX / XX|<month> <day>, <year>}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{sort|XXXX / XX|<month> <year>}}</nowiki></code> respectively.


'''Proposer''': {{User|GuntherBB}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|GuntherBB}}<br>
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#{{User|Jdtendo}} The MM/DD/YYYY date format is basically only used in Northern America, and is very confusing to more or less the rest of the world because the DD/MM/YYYY format is much more widespread, including in English-speaking countries such as UK and Australia. A non Northern American person who would read that ''Paper Mario'' was released on 08/11/2000 in Japan may misinterpret the date as "8th of November, 2000" instead of "August 11, 2000". The YYYY/MM/DD format that is currently used in the article does not have this ambiguity and is commonly accepted as an international standard.
#{{User|Jdtendo}} The MM/DD/YYYY date format is basically only used in Northern America, and is very confusing to more or less the rest of the world because the DD/MM/YYYY format is much more widespread, including in English-speaking countries such as UK and Australia. A non Northern American person who would read that ''Paper Mario'' was released on 08/11/2000 in Japan may misinterpret the date as "8th of November, 2000" instead of "August 11, 2000". The YYYY/MM/DD format that is currently used in the article does not have this ambiguity and is commonly accepted as an international standard.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per Jdtendo especially--while MM/DD/YYYY is the standard in American English (which is what the wiki uses for the most part), it is absolutely ''not'' the global standard; and in this case, we don't see any harm in specifically using the global standard over the American English standard. It doesn't take that much effort to understand if you're accustomed to the American English way, whereas anyone who doesn't will already have zero problems understanding the dates.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per Jdtendo especially--while MM/DD/YYYY is the standard in American English (which is what the wiki uses for the most part), it is absolutely ''not'' the global standard; and in this case, we don't see any harm in specifically using the global standard over the American English standard. It doesn't take that much effort to understand if you're accustomed to the American English way, whereas anyone who doesn't will already have zero problems understanding the dates.
#{{User|YoYo}} when asking about when games release, the year is the most important part: its literally the thing people will be asking about the most. and as for the "standard" replacement of MM/DD/YYYY, that's used far less than the most common format: DD/MM/YYYY. That, however, is irrelevant. what is relevant is the fact that the year is the most crucial information. so keep it as it is.
#{{User|LadySophie17}} YYYY/MM/DD is standard for ordering things chronologically. Also I am morally obligated to oppose MM/DD/YYYY.


===Comments===
===Comments===
This is a little silly, but the proposal's name seems kind of like a misnomer to us? "Broadening the scope" of List of Games, to us, sounds like an attempt to re-define what counts as a game so as to include more things on it--y'know, ''broadening'' the definition of a Game so the List has more things in it... Except, this proposal is about changing the date scheme used, and we already gladly include stuff like [[Mario Calculator]] on this list anyways. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 13:46, February 16, 2024 (EST)
This is a little silly, but the proposal's name seems kind of like a misnomer to us? "Broadening the scope" of List of Games, to us, sounds like an attempt to re-define what counts as a game so as to include more things on it--y'know, ''broadening'' the definition of a Game so the List has more things in it... Except, this proposal is about changing the date scheme used, and we already gladly include stuff like [[Mario Calculator]] on this list anyways. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 13:46, February 16, 2024 (EST)
Might be worth revisiting an [https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/35#Impose_a_standard_for_dates old proposal I did concerning formatting for month, day, year.] The votes here are contradicting with this proposal. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:58, February 16, 2024 (EST)
: Y'know? Now that you bring it up, that might be good just so we don't have two different standards--one only used on a very commonly visited article, while another is used ''literally everywhere else''. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 18:47, February 16, 2024 (EST)
::Personally, I would be fine with formatting the date as "Aug 11, 2000" which is legible enough and non-ambiguous, but "08/11/2000" in numeric-only form would be harmful as I explained in my vote. {{User:Jdtendo/sig}} 01:47, February 17, 2024 (EST)

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