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:That's for the physical release. The digital release (under "Nintendo eShop") is already out. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:09, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
:That's for the physical release. The digital release (under "Nintendo eShop") is already out. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:09, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
:I know it isn't labelled as such on the [[Nintendo eShop]], but the version of ''[[Minecraft]]'' on [[Nintendo Switch]] is known as ''Minecraft: Bedrock Edition'', not "''Minecraft'' (Bedrock version)". [[User:NintendoFan08|NintendoFan08]] ([[User talk:NintendoFan08|talk]]) 08:17, October 8, 2022 (EDT)


== Super Mario World Medal Game ==
== Super Mario World Medal Game ==
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Thank you so much for uploading this video. This helps out a bunch. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 22:56, September 24, 2019 (EDT)
Thank you so much for uploading this video. This helps out a bunch. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 22:56, September 24, 2019 (EDT)
Based on what I heard here, this medal game seems to be Būbū Mario. BUT, it could be something else. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 10:02, January 24, 2023 (CST)


==Super Mario Club (Famicom Network System)==
==Super Mario Club (Famicom Network System)==
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== Flash game screenshots ==
== Flash game screenshots ==
<gallery>
 
File:Billbouncescreenshotingame.png|Bill Bounce
[[File:Billbouncescreenshotingame.png|thumb|Bill Bounce]]
File:Crazycountingscreenshot.png|Crazy Counting
[[File:Crazycountingscreenshot.png|thumb|Crazy Counting]]
File:Dinkyrinkyscreenshot.png|thumb|Dinky Rinky
[[File:Dinkyrinkyscreenshot.png|thumb|Dinky Rinky]]
File:Donkeykong64lorequizscreenshot.png|Donkey Kong 64 Lore Quiz
[[File:Donkeykong64lorequizscreenshot.png|thumb|Donkey Kong 64 Lore Quiz]]
File:Goodnessrakesscreenshot.png|Goodness Rake
[[File:Goodnessrakesscreenshot.png|thumb|Goodness Rake]]
File:Mariostrikersadvergamescreenshot.png|thumb|Mario Strikers Advergame
[[File:Mariostrikersadvergamescreenshot.png|thumb|Mario Strikers Advergame]]
File:Melonmayhemscreenshot.png|Melon Mayhem
[[File:Melonmayhemscreenshot.png|thumb|Melon Mayhem]]
File:Minimariofactorygamescreenshot.png|thumb|Mini-Mario Factory Game!
[[File:Minimariofactorygamescreenshot.png|thumb|Mini-Mario Factory Game! ]]
File:Nomissscrenshot.png|Nomiss
[[File:Nomissscrenshot.png|thumb|Nomiss]]
File:Powermeterscreenshot.png|Power Meter
[[File:Powermeterscreenshot.png|thumb|Power Meter]]
File:Virusattackscreenshot.png|Virus Attack
[[File:Virusattackscreenshot.png|thumb|Virus Attack]]
File:Welcometogreedvilescreenshotarcade .png|Arcade
[[File:Welcometogreedvilescreenshotarcade .png|thumb|Arcade]]
File:Welcometogreedvilescreenshotgreedtest.png|Greed Test
[[File:Welcometogreedvilescreenshotgreedtest.png|thumb|Greed Test]]
File:Welcometogreedvilescreenshothub.png|Welcome to Greedville hub
[[File:Welcometogreedvilescreenshothub.png|thumb|Welcome to Greedville hub]]
</gallery>
--[[User:JacobH.5840|JacobH.5840]] ([[User talk:JacobH.5840|talk]]) 14:50, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
--[[User:JacobH.5840|JacobH.5840]] ([[User talk:JacobH.5840|talk]]) 14:50, June 4, 2021 (EDT)


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Hi, I noticed that the original Tennis game for NES and Gameboy isn't on this page, and Mario is the referee in that game, if I recall correctly. If games such as Golf, Tetris, and Alleyway count, should Tennis also count? {{unsigned|Eoncats}}
Hi, I noticed that the original Tennis game for NES and Gameboy isn't on this page, and Mario is the referee in that game, if I recall correctly. If games such as Golf, Tetris, and Alleyway count, should Tennis also count? {{unsigned|Eoncats}}
:Every game on this list has a Wiki page, which implies per [[MarioWiki:Coverage|the coverage policy]] that Mario plays a more active role than in Tennis or Punch-Out!!. NES Tetris wouldn't qualify on its own but does as a hanger-on to GB Tetris. [[User:Sarisa|Sarisa]] ([[User talk:Sarisa|talk]]) 18:56, December 24, 2022 (EST)


== SMB/Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet NES cartridges?  ==
== SMB/Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet NES cartridges?  ==
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- Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt / World Class Track Meet
- Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt / World Class Track Meet


Not sure if their lack of inclusion is intentional or not. I also couldn't find wiki pages for them either. I noticed the list includes what I would consider another combo-type release: New Super Mario Bros. U + New Super Luigi U. {{unsigned|Spudos}}
Not sure if their lack of inclusion is intentional or not. I also couldn't find wiki pages for them either. I noticed the list includes what I would consider another combo-type release: New Super Mario Bros. U + New Super Luigi U.
:Per [[MarioWiki:Coverage#Package_deals|our coverage policy]] those don't get full coverage since it's just the same game packaged with unrelated games. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 11:44, September 19, 2022 (EDT)
::Point, but maybe you could give it partial coverage? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 14:55, December 13, 2022 (CST)
 
== Mario Kart Wii Nvidia Shield port ==
 
 
The Nvidia Shield ports were [https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/08/nvidia_shield_shutting_down_nintendo_wii_game_downloads_in_china unlisted in 2021] and the Mario Kart Wii port was never released since [https://youtu.be/FG-Gb63M3_8?t=56 the Chinese government never approved the game] according to one of the port's developers. However, the port is still listed as upcoming on this list. Shouldn't it be removed from this list and mentioned in the [[list of unreleased media]]? [[User:1468z|1468z]] ([[User talk:1468z|talk]]) 12:34, February 12, 2023 (EST)
:After some searching I found out that the server for Nvidia Shield games was [https://twitter.com/chinesenintendo/status/1525081815593418752 shut down in 2022 because the system was discontinued in China], so I decided to remove Mario Kart Wii from the list since it confirms that it will not release. [[User:1468z|1468z]] ([[User talk:1468z|talk]]) 13:23, February 13, 2023 (EST)
 
== Game demos ==
 
Should the digital game demos on the [[Nintendo eShop]] be here? Like, some Mario games do have them. They are games. {{unsigned|Mario Guy Man}}
 
== Why the Change? ==
 
I want to know, why someone change the order of the games in this list? It's used to be Console/Handheld/Arcade/Others but now it's Arcade/Handheld/Console/Others, just WHY? Console should be first because the Nintendo Switch is considered until now a console here and now its all the way down in the end of the page, that's not good at all. If you want to keep this order for whatever reason, create a Hybrid section to see the Switch games in the top of the page, please, the Switch section is way more important than all the other ones, since it's the most active of them all and needs to be displayed higher in the page as possible. {{unsigned|201.95.222.199}}
:I have similar concerns. While the page itself has been reordered since this question was asked, the current organization is still not intuitive (for instance, the Barcode Battler II is labeled a home console, which it is certainly not, and water toys are given the same weight as handheld consoles). And looking at the page's history the total overhaul seems to have been done unilaterally by a single editor without any prior discussion, but forgive me if I'm mistaken on that end. [[User:AZealousIndividual|AZealousIndividual]] ([[User talk:AZealousIndividual|talk]]) 23:52, August 6, 2023 (EDT)
::Given there seems to still be kind of a back-and-forth of edits targeting this page's layout I take it there isn't a consensus on what it should be? I'm new to the wiki so I'm not sure where to check that sort of thing or how these sorts of problems are typically resolved. >< [[User:AZealousIndividual|AZealousIndividual]] ([[User talk:AZealousIndividual|talk]]) 10:59, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
== Expand the e-Reader section ==
 
Acording to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_%26_Watch_ports_and_remakes| this Wikipedia page], there is another Game & Watch called "Game & Watch-e", so we should add to the [[e-Reader]] section?
 
[[User:Perfection|Perfection]] ([[User talk:Perfection|talk]]) 09:30, 27/01/2024 (UTC)
 
== Change the date scheme and resort by chronology ==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-5|no change}}
The "YYYY / MM / DD" and "YYYY / MM" readings literally make no sense to me. However, the good news is, I was wondering if there's a possibility to use the "<month> <day>, <year>" and "<month> <year>" readings and improve their sorting using <code><nowiki>{{sort|YYYY / MM / DD|<month> <day>, <year>}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{sort|YYYY / MM|<month> <year>}}</nowiki></code> respectively.
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|GuntherBB}}<br>
'''Deadline''': February 24, 2024, 23:59 GMT
 
===Support===
#{{User|GuntherBB}} Per proposal
 
===Oppose===
#{{User|MegaBowser64}} The current arrangement is more precise for chronological order. For instance, you could easily find all games from 2014 because the year comes first. Otherwise, you would just be looking at random, unrelated numbers (month and day) first, having to sort through the numbers to find the year. This setup is more practical for casual reading.
#{{User|Jdtendo}} The MM/DD/YYYY date format is basically only used in Northern America, and is very confusing to more or less the rest of the world because the DD/MM/YYYY format is much more widespread, including in English-speaking countries such as UK and Australia. A non Northern American person who would read that ''Paper Mario'' was released on 08/11/2000 in Japan may misinterpret the date as "8th of November, 2000" instead of "August 11, 2000". The YYYY/MM/DD format that is currently used in the article does not have this ambiguity and is commonly accepted as an international standard.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per Jdtendo especially--while MM/DD/YYYY is the standard in American English (which is what the wiki uses for the most part), it is absolutely ''not'' the global standard; and in this case, we don't see any harm in specifically using the global standard over the American English standard. It doesn't take that much effort to understand if you're accustomed to the American English way, whereas anyone who doesn't will already have zero problems understanding the dates.
#{{User|YoYo}} when asking about when games release, the year is the most important part: its literally the thing people will be asking about the most. and as for the "standard" replacement of MM/DD/YYYY, that's used far less than the most common format: DD/MM/YYYY. That, however, is irrelevant. what is relevant is the fact that the year is the most crucial information. so keep it as it is.
#{{User|LadySophie17}} YYYY/MM/DD is standard for ordering things chronologically. Also I am morally obligated to oppose MM/DD/YYYY.
 
===Comments===
This is a little silly, but the proposal's name seems kind of like a misnomer to us? "Broadening the scope" of List of Games, to us, sounds like an attempt to re-define what counts as a game so as to include more things on it--y'know, ''broadening'' the definition of a Game so the List has more things in it... Except, this proposal is about changing the date scheme used, and we already gladly include stuff like [[Mario Calculator]] on this list anyways. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 13:46, February 16, 2024 (EST)
 
Might be worth revisiting an [https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/35#Impose_a_standard_for_dates old proposal I did concerning formatting for month, day, year.] The votes here are contradicting with this proposal. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:58, February 16, 2024 (EST)
: Y'know? Now that you bring it up, that might be good just so we don't have two different standards--one only used on a very commonly visited article, while another is used ''literally everywhere else''. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 18:47, February 16, 2024 (EST)
::Personally, I would be fine with formatting the date as "Aug 11, 2000" which is legible enough and non-ambiguous, but "08/11/2000" in numeric-only form would be harmful as I explained in my vote. {{User:Jdtendo/sig}} 01:47, February 17, 2024 (EST)

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