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#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - A majority of sources in both Japanese and English treat these just as Cheep Cheeps, {{file link|Super Mario Yossy Island Shogakukan P7.jpg|the most "primary" Japanese guide outright lists them together}} (the guide you mentioned, which is not of the usual ''Kōshiki'' guide series, is an outlier), and YNI and YWW use the same Cheep Cheep model for both the jumping and swimming types; the only differences in behavior are due to how Submarine/other-swimming-type Yoshi has changed. The fact that a separate-looking blue or yellow fish does not exist in YNI while swimming red or green ones do, despite the amount of other direct enemy throwbacks the game has, demonstrates the developers see it as an ordinary Cheep Cheep. Note the other enemies that are commonly recurring also have their designs updated in that game rather than using SNES-accurate designs like the ones that are pretty much exclusive to the series are given, even when that results in design inconsistencies between them and the "base" type (like with [[Propeller Piranha]]'s spots, which still resemble SNES Piranha Plants' despite Piranha Plants themselves being given a modern design). Anyways, if they are split, "Cheep Cheep" with an identifier would be the name since that's the most current, and the English YIDS guides treated it as the game's "normal" Cheep Cheeps. | #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - A majority of sources in both Japanese and English treat these just as Cheep Cheeps, {{file link|Super Mario Yossy Island Shogakukan P7.jpg|the most "primary" Japanese guide outright lists them together}} (the guide you mentioned, which is not of the usual ''Kōshiki'' guide series, is an outlier), and YNI and YWW use the same Cheep Cheep model for both the jumping and swimming types; the only differences in behavior are due to how Submarine/other-swimming-type Yoshi has changed. The fact that a separate-looking blue or yellow fish does not exist in YNI while swimming red or green ones do, despite the amount of other direct enemy throwbacks the game has, demonstrates the developers see it as an ordinary Cheep Cheep. Note the other enemies that are commonly recurring also have their designs updated in that game rather than using SNES-accurate designs like the ones that are pretty much exclusive to the series are given, even when that results in design inconsistencies between them and the "base" type (like with [[Propeller Piranha]]'s spots, which still resemble SNES Piranha Plants' despite Piranha Plants themselves being given a modern design). Anyways, if they are split, "Cheep Cheep" with an identifier would be the name since that's the most current, and the English YIDS guides treated it as the game's "normal" Cheep Cheeps. [[File:SMW2 Piscatory Pete yellow.png]][[File:CheepCheepYS.png]] <-Also these look pretty similar to me, at least. | ||
#{{user|Blinker}} Per Doc von Schmeltwick. At least with Sky Blooper, regular Bloopers are usually not found flying. Cheep Cheeps, on the other hand, are already usually found underwater. They are fish. Splitting this game's underwater Cheep Cheeps would be strange. | #{{user|Blinker}} Per Doc von Schmeltwick. At least with Sky Blooper, regular Bloopers are usually not found flying. Cheep Cheeps, on the other hand, are already usually found underwater. They are fish. Splitting this game's underwater Cheep Cheeps would be strange. | ||
#{{User|Arend}} Cheep Cheeps are already primarily underwater, and Piscatory Pete's been renamed to "Cheep Cheep" since ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]''. I think splitting Pete from the other Cheeps entirely due to an alternate Japanese name that already translates to "Underwater Cheep Cheep" is gonna be quite a mess. Not to mention we're not splitting Upside-down Spiny either even when its Japanese name is さかさトゲゾー as opposed to トゲゾー(さかさ). | #{{User|Arend}} Cheep Cheeps are already primarily underwater, and Piscatory Pete's been renamed to "Cheep Cheep" since ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]''. I think splitting Pete from the other Cheeps entirely due to an alternate Japanese name that already translates to "Underwater Cheep Cheep" is gonna be quite a mess. Not to mention we're not splitting Upside-down Spiny either even when its Japanese name is さかさトゲゾー as opposed to トゲゾー(さかさ). | ||
