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Some Japanese names.

Hey, i was considering asking...

• What are the Japanese names for Water Shooter, Fire Cannon, and Electric Pressure? They all have an english name, but their Japanese name is not noted on their pages.
• You said that it doesn't cover the penguin-like Cheep Cheep (bird) "Hatopop", do you mean that it was not given any mention, or is briefly mentioned?
• What's the Japanese name of Ocean Small Turtle?
• What'sBig Steely's Japanese name in Super Mario World and Super Mario 64?
• What is the Japanese name of O/X Block? File:X Block.png
• What's Lemmy and Wendy's Decoy Dolls Japanese names from Super Mario World?

All of this is on Super Mario Encyclopedia. -- FanOfYoshi 09:27, 16 January 2019 (EST)

• They are 「ウォーター シューター」, 「ファイア プレッシャー」 and 「エレキプレッシャー」 respectively, these are basically English names written in Katakana, namely Water Shooter, Fire Pressure and Electric Pressure.
• Hatopop is not given a mention, only the trap is mentioned
• The turtle is not mentioned in the Encyclopedia
• The Super Mario World bowling ball is not mentioned in the Encyclopedia, while the Super Mario 64 iron ball is named 「鉄球」, which means, well, iron ball
• The block is named 「○×ブロック」, that is ○× Block written in Katakana
• The dolls are named 「ダミー人形」, dummy puppet

That's what the Encyclopedia says on these matters, from what I've seen.--Mister Wu (talk) 20:20, 16 January 2019 (EST)

Regarding Big Steely, might it instead be mentioned in one of those puzzle books? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:28, 16 January 2019 (EST)

Regarding the penguin-like Cheep Cheep cuckoo bird, wasn't it given any mention in a Super Mario Sunshine guide? And regarding Ocean Small Turtle, it is possibly mentioned on Super Mario Galaxy's Japanese guides. -- FanOfYoshi 07:03, 17 January 2019 (EST)

I tried looking at the Nintendo Official Guidebook of Super Mario Sunshine, but couldn't find anything about those Hatopops. I don't have any guide of Super Mario Galaxy, either. On the other hand, the Nintendo Official Guidebook of Super Mario World named the iron ball:

クッパの鉄球攻撃。球に当たるとミス。

Its name is thereore again 「鉄球」.--Mister Wu (talk) 22:12, 17 January 2019 (EST)

Chibi Pakkun

Hey, since I'm away from my copy right now, can you double-check the Encyclopedia's Super Mario 64 names for Chibi Fire Pakkun and Deka Pakkun Flower? There's an inconsistency, but I have a hunch I was careless when I added one of those names. LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:16, 18 January 2019 (EST)

The names I'm seeing on page 86 are indeed 「ちびファイアパックン」 and 「でかファイアパックン」, what was the inconsistency you had found?--Mister Wu (talk) 23:09, 19 January 2019 (EST)

Oh okay, thanks. The inconsistency was due to me lazily replacing the (now unavailable) reference for the latter, so it mistakenly states that Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. calls it Deka Pakkun Flower instead of Deka Fire Pakkun. I'll correct it. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:20, 20 January 2019 (EST)

SM3DW Fuzzy Horde and SMS Bee Japanese name

Hey Mister Wu! I was wondering... What's the Japanese name of the Fuzzy Horde as it appears in Super Mario 3D World? And what's the Japanese name of the Super Mario Sunshine Bees? -- FanOfYoshi 11:24, 20 January 2019 (EST)

Ps: Does any guide hints that Missile Bill and Purple Bullet Bill are intended to be the same thing as Search Killer? Or Missile Bill is just intended to be the normal Kill Bullet Bill, and that Purple Bullet Bill is intended to be something different from Bull's Eye Bill? -- FanOfYoshi 05:26, 21 January 2019 (EST)

• The Fuzzy Horde is known as 「チョロボンの集団」, Mass of Fuzzies:

チョロポン炭鉱

迫りくるチョロボンの集団から逃げながら進むコース。

• The bees are known as just 「ハチ」, Bees
• Well, the Super Mario Pia lists on page 60 the 「サーチキラー」, indicating New Super Mario Bros. Wii and New Super Mario Bros. U as the games where they appear. The purple Missile Bills are therefore not considered to be the same - after all, they have the same role, but different appearance and name.

In general, keep in mind that unless you consider recurring or relevant enemies that likely appear in the Super Mario Pia, you won't find this kind of character- or enemy-focused inter-games information in the Encyclopedia, which focuses on the individual games rather than on the enemies and characters. I only own very few Japanese guides and as such I'm missing those of New Super Mario Bros. Wii and New Super Mario Bros. U, although as I've noticed on the guides that I own, the focus is again on the enemies in the context of the game. Basically, it's only the Super Mario Pia that gives us this kind of character-focused inter-games information and I don't expect this to change soon as Nintendo seems reluctant to try a character-focused approach again.--Mister Wu (talk) 23:36, 23 January 2019 (EST)

Bowser Statue's Japanese names

Hey there! I was wondering... What are the Super Mario World Gray and Gold Bowser Statues, and what's its New Super Mario Bros. 2 incarnation name? -- FanOfYoshi 07:11, 7 February 2019 (EST)

Also, what's the name of the blue variant of Bullet Bill from Super Mario Sunshine? I'd guess it's "Killer (aka)"? And what's this caterpillar's Japanese name? -- FanOfYoshi 11:31, 7 February 2019 (EST)

• Well, the Super Mario World and New Super Mario Bros. 2 Gray Bowser Statues are both known as 「クッパ石像」, Bowser Stone Statue
• The Super Mario World Gold Bowser Statues are known as 「クッパ石像(金色)」, Bowser Stone Statue (Gold Colored), who could have said that...
• Almost there! The Japanese term for blue is Ao! In any case, yes, they are known as 「キラー(青)」, Killer (Blue)...
• Wow, we finally got an actual name! The caterpillar is known as 「ムイムイ」, Muimui! Sure, a bit on the classical side, but a own name is still a own name!

In the end, despite being different, the New Super Mario Bros. 2 heads have the same Japanese name as the full statues.--Mister Wu (talk) 20:18, 7 February 2019 (EST)

Yet some other Japanese names

Hey Mister Wu! I was wondering... What are the Japanese names for the following things:

• Dune Bud
• Venus Flower Trap
• Big Thorny Flower
• Spring (Super Mario Galaxy)
• All 3 types of Gummit
• And to determine, which page, exactly (if it comes from the encyclopedia), the name "Pattan" is the Whimp's Japanese name.

That's all for now. -- FanOfYoshi 13:29, 12 February 2019 (EST)

Ps: What is the Japanese name of the big variant of the Cosmic Clone? -- FanOfYoshi 04:46, 13 February 2019 (EST)

And, what are the rolling Chomps's Japanese name in Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2? And the Lava Lift? And is there any picture of the Whomp in Super Mario Picture Books you can scan? -- FanOfYoshi 07:00, 14 February 2019 (EST)

• The Dune Bud is known as 「木の芽」, tree bud
• The Venus Flower Trap is known as 「ビックリフラワー」, Surprise Flower
• I couldn't find neither the Big Thorny Flower nor the Spring in the Encyclopedia
• All the variants of Gummit are listed, the standard ones that give 10 points, 「モグポン」, the golden ones that give 50 points, 「ゴールデン モグポン」, the spiky ones who actually have a different name, 「トゲポン」
• The name パタン actually should be read Patan, it is found on page 160
• Super Mario 3D Land doesn't feature proper 「マネック」, Cosmic Clones, but rather 「ちびマネック」, Small Cosmic Clones, and 「でかマネック」, Big Cosmic Clones
• The rolling Chomps are known as just 「ワンワン」, Chain Chomps
• The Lava Lift is known as 「ドクロリフト」, Skull Lift
• At the moment I only have one of those books that is themed after Super Mario 64, it doesn't feature a Whomp. A second one should arrive in a few months, while the third one is not sold at realistic prices right now.--Mister Wu (talk) 23:37, 14 February 2019 (EST)

Also, forgot, what are the Japanese names for MIPS, the Chainsaw, and both types of Stretch Plants? -- FanOfYoshi 08:22, 20 February 2019 (EST)

And with which letters "Neiji Bom" is written, apparently, it is the Bob Omb's name from Super Mario Sunshine. -- FanOfYoshi 12:45, 20 February 2019 (EST)

• MIPS is known as 「ミップ」, Mippu, so it could be a reference to the MIPS microarchitecture in Japan as well
• The chainsaw is simply known as 「ノコギリ」, the Japanese term for saw
• The 「パンチボンボン」 (Punch Bonbon) name we report for the usual Stretch Plant is correct, the spiky one is listed in the Enemies' section as 「ハリボンボン」, Haribonbon
• Well, in Super Mario Sunshine the Bob-ombs are known as 「ボムへい」 as usual, from what I rememeber the Neji Bomb term comes from the PRIMA guide, as far as internal names are concerned, nejibomb is the internal name of the Bob-ombs in the files containing the various data about the enemy (models, textures, animations, etc.), although the directory containing said files is named bombhei.--Mister Wu (talk) 22:46, 23 February 2019 (EST)

According to Time-Turner, PRIMA called them "Bomb-ombs." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:23, 24 February 2019 (EST)

Indeed, the internal names are used by the BradyGames' guide. Sorry, I remembered wrong.--Mister Wu (talk) 19:37, 24 February 2019 (EST)

Super Mario Pia-related questions

Hey, i was considering asking since we found out that Search Killer's proper first appearance was in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and that Purple Bullet Bill is a separate entity...

• I found some scans including a Tox Box and it has Onimasudon, and it lists it under SMG, SMG2, but excludes SM64. It seems like a factor for splitting, as they are now confirmed to be separate entities. Does it gives a separate entry for Onimasukun, or it isn't mentioned at all?
• Same for the Bomp.
• Is the Chain Chomp listed in SMG and SMG2, or is Chomp excluded from the Chain Chomp's appearances? If the former, we can merge Chomp with Chain Chomp, if the latter, it can stay on its own article. Given the same Japanese name, Wanwan, i think they are likely one and the same.
• I know it would not list Wiggler under its appearances when it has wings, but does the textual description mention the fact that it has wings?
• In which game are the following big enemies listed?

Deka Kuribo

Deka Nokonoko

Dai/Deka Pakkun Flower

Deka Hanachan, since i plan to split Kyodai Hanachan from it.

• And in which game is Mame Kuribo listed?

-- FanOfYoshi 03:00, 2 March 2019 (EST)

• Onimasukun isn't mentioned in the characters section, only Onimasudon is mentioned
• Similar to the Tox Box case, only Tsukidashidon is mentioned and stated to appear in Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2, Tsukidashi is not in the characters section
• The Chain Chomp is listed as appearing in the following games: Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, New Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros. U. Therefore, from this list we can conclude that Chomp is included in the game appearances of Chain Chomp.
• The possibility of growing wings is not mentioned in the description of Wiggler:

ハナチャン

大きな鼻と頭の上の花がトレードマーク。見た目はかわいいが怒らせると怖いらしい。

• The only two size variants that I found are:

Deka Kuribo, that is stated to appear in Super Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and New Super Mario Bros. U

Deka Pakkun Flower, that is stated to appear Super Mario 64, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros. U

In general, considering how Nintendo prefers the game-by-game approach as seen in the Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros., the author of this book likely didn't have much information from Nintendo about name changes and as such there are few cases of acknowledged name changes.--Mister Wu (talk) 18:29, 3 March 2019 (EST)

I found Mame Kuribo, it is listed as appearing in the following games: Super Mario Bros. 3, New Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros. U.--Mister Wu (talk) 10:40, 11 March 2019 (EDT)

Galaxy boulders

On thisMedia:ESMB page 127.png page you uploaded, I see not one, but two entries for boulders with different names. What's up with that? Are they about size difference, speed difference, or whether they travel in loops or off ledges? Or some other factor I haven't thought of? The upper one is is "Gorogoro Iwa," which is what's currently in the foreign names box, with the lower one being (something else)goro Iwa. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:04, March 21, 2019 (EDT)

Never mind, found it. It's the bigger one. Derp! Thanks, larger Goomba entry right next to it. Dekagoro Iwa. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:07, March 21, 2019 (EDT)

More encyclopedia names

Hey! I wanted to ask... Does the description of the Fuzzler ever implies that it is a Wiggler or even a Fuzzy derivative?

• Are both types of Rammerheads separate? If so, what are their Japanese name?
• Does the german encyclopedia uses "Mini-Wummp" to Whimp?
• What are the Pillar and Spikes (an obstacle)'s Japanese names?
• Are Boo formations on the Super Mario World section separate, or only Boo Block (Block Teresa) is separate?
• Is the Lakitu in a Pipe separate from the normal Lakitu?
• Does any Japanese book states that the Rip Van Fish is a Cheep Cheep derivative?
• Does the encyclopedia gives a separate entry for the Big Grinder? -- FanOfYoshi 05:51, April 11, 2019 (EDT)