Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 3

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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Talk
Archive 1 (1-20)

Emblems on Stages

On the Stages section, shouldn't we add the Emblems to them? We did it to the Characters Section, so why not the Stages? My Bloody Valentine

That could happen. Go for it DP.Knife (talk) 14:14, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Forget it, Cobold removed the Emblems, and added them to the Infobox. It looks neater this way, so, forget about it. My Bloody Valentine

Unlockables Not Going To Be Mentioned in Updates

I've heard that Masahiro said in an interview that he was not going to reveal any new unlockable characters in one of his interview preceding the week he started updating smashbros. Could someone confirm this if this is true? And also, could it mean that Ike isn't an unlockable?Knife (talk) 14:19, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Maybe, sorry, I can't help you with that. But, that could mean Ike isn't unlockable. We will have to wait and see. You Americans only have to wait another 4 or 5 Months. I have to wait til next year. My Bloody Valentine

I'm confused wiht that :P DP: Sorry to hear that :( Xzelion^ETC

Sorry to hear what? My Bloody Valentine

Maybe thats why Snake has not been posted in the official site. Javier12345

DP: Sorry to hear that Brawl won't be released for a while in Au. Javier: You're probably right. Xzelion^ETC

What about Meta Knight thought? This mean he unlockable too? Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!

Jorge, remember, the updates haven't finished yet. Meta Knight might just be around the corner. AND, he has been seen in screenshots on that site. Just because he hasn't been confirmed YET, doesn't mean he won't ever. My Bloody Valentine

What we should remember before making these conclusions is that our source for this was an interview, not a conclusive message on the website. I don't think it should be like Sakurai to reveal this, as he puts huge emphasis on accomplishments, stat tracking, ect. This makes me think that he wouldn't, but then again, he might decide later to make a character unlockable, too. What I'm saying is that until there's a sure-fire message given to us, we shouldn't put these conclusions in the article without note of how we arrived at them. But you probably weren't going to anyway! :) Stumpers!

Also, does anyone remember that mesage above Ike's profile? I don't remember that happening with other characters. Plus, aren't all the other Fire Emblem characters unlockable. But for now, we'll just have to wait.--Toa Waluigi 19:23, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

Ganondorf and Sheik

Theres apparently been an information leak: [1]. -- Sir Grodus

Is this 100% true? My Bloody Valentine

Well, anyone know if Game Informer and Go Nintendo are acurate? -- Sir Grodus

Never heard of that sites. In my eyes it's still very unlikely that Sheik will return. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 05:36, 3 August 2007 (EDT)

GameInformer is a very real and very legitimate and credible magazine. I would definitely believe it. Salty^Talk! 00:45, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

It may be legitimate in that it's a print source, but haven't there been lots of errors made, like on release dates and specifics? Plus, just because someone claims to have submitted a design, it doesn't mean the character will be in the final cut. Remember how Super Mario 64 was meant to have Luigi? I'll bet that Nintendo had its designers create a 3D model, etc. for him, but he still didn't get in the game. Stumpers!

I don't remember anyone ever saying Luigi was going to be in Super Mario 64... -- Sir Grodus

Peach

Peach is now confimed in Brawl check out the website smashbros.com U'll se her next 2 Zelda and Kirby in a pic.

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And? Xzelion^ETC

We'll have to wait for an image which shows her alone to add it to the table. Her name is already there. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 13:32, 3 August 2007 (EDT)

Its not confirmed shes playable either. Xzelion^ETC

I have already argued on this. She is playable. If you want to argue whether one and one is two without your maths book saying so, what would you do? Peach's the most likely character to return who hasn't been revealed yet, she is shown acting playable among other playable characters. Oh my, Captain Obvious, help me! - Cobold (talk · contribs) 13:35, 3 August 2007 (EDT)

Cobold, that was very rude. You've made your point, Peach is playable, OK, fine, we know that now. I just wanted to wait til we had official art of her before adding her, that is all. My Bloody Valentine

I didn't think I attacked anyone here. But I'm not too good in recognizing that either, that's the problem. Anyone got offended? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 05:31, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

References

Though I don't want to exactly copy Wikipedia's style, we have to be careful with everything we put on the page. Unofficial sources are coming up here and there, and it might be confusing what is for sure, especially in the Notes section. I think we should add a reference, some external link to the page at the Dojo, to the major revelations, to retain some official style. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:29, 3 August 2007 (EDT)

Sonic Logo Hidden in Brawl Screenshot

Alright guys, I was going to put this on the page but I'll check it with you guys first. This is link to a screenshot from Brawl recently put on the Smash Bros Dojo website. It's a picture of Zero Suit Samus in a room full of moniters. Now the image below this text was posted on The Wiire boards by Shawn White, senior editor of The Wiire, a popular website about the Wii (probably the best for news). He zoomed in on and sharpened one of the smaller screens:

It clearly shows the Sonic logo. I believe Shawn, I don't think he edited the logo in. If anyone else wants to zoom in and sharpen it to see if it's really there be my guest.

Sakurai is very sneaky ;) Salty^Talk! 00:55, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Hmmm. Oh wow. How legit..... I checked it in Paint, Photoshop, image viewer, I compared with the original......Saudy^Talk!

I don't think we should add this. For all we know, it could be fake. My Bloody Valentine

So it's real? The Sonic logo is really there? I'll put something on the page then (or someone should [or we could all decide]). Salty^Talk! 01:19, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Pokemon DP, Shawn White is a very trustworthy guy, he reports facts on The Wiire, I don't think he wouyld decide to lie about this all of a sudden. Besides, even in the original small screenshot you can kinda make it out. Salty^Talk! 01:19, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

But, this just SCREAMS speculation. How do we know if it is Sonic or not? Just keep it out, OK. Wait for the game to be released. My Bloody Valentine

Well no one said this means Sonic is in Brawl, I'm just saying that, for a fact, the Sonic Logo is there. Hey, maybe they decided to put it there for no reason, see if people find it, get their hopes up and disappoint them when no Sonic characters, items, stages, or Assist trophies are in Brawl. That would made perfect sense. Salty^Talk! 01:28, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

That doesn't sound like Nintendo. I'd be devastated if that happened. But, seriously, don't put this Image up. It is very speculative. My Bloody Valentine

That sounds very much like Nintendo, DPSaudy^Talk!

Just wait until Dojo confirms it, if so. It could a cameo for all we know. Wa _T^C_@^Y 01:43, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

There's a whole section on this page for speculated characters, DP. I'm at least putting a note of it there. Salty^Talk! 02:05, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Kay-O. Now, THAT'S OK, but putting the Image up would've been excessive. Kay-O, go ahead. My Bloody Valentine

I don't think he intended to put up the image and make big deal out of it. >,>Saudy^Talk!

Now that's cool. This definitely means that Sonic will be in Brawl, whether he is a cameo or a playable character. But again, it wouldn't hurt to at least link the image as a source when adding that info.Knife (talk) 12:48, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

that image was long proven to be a shopped fake made by a YTMND member. it's not real. (Tirkaro 21:03, 6 August 2007 (EDT))

He's right. I looked at the REAL Image close up, this one's a phony. My Bloody Valentine

Snake's symbol?

Why does Snake has no symbol? Javier12345

It has not yet been revealed by the official website. We will have to wait until his profile gets up. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:59, 5 August 2007 (EDT)

Which might be never. He may be unlockable, and I don't think the site will put up Unlockable characters. My Bloody Valentine

Uh... I have found his symbol, along with some others, but, it doesn't match with the rest. Here it is. Tell me what I should do, upload it, or forget it. My Bloody Valentine

We're probably going to get one from the main website soon enough, but you could probably use that for now if you really wanted to. Stumpers!

Should we add the Metal Gear stage?

I found these images of Snake's stage. Could we add this to the article?

Screenshot from old Dojo site
Image from Nintendo World trailer
Another image from Nintendo World trailer

— NES Boy 19:54, 8 August 2007 (EDT)

I would if I were you. I know that the Nintendo Database calls that place Alaska, if you need a name. I know we have all this nice, organized information coming at us from the source from Smash Bros. Dojo, but that isn't the only source we can use (heck, we're a Wiki, so we can use anything trustworthy). Stumpers!

Character Sections

As it stands we have a gallery of character images, and then many paragraphs below all of them that talk about all of the characters at once. Would it make more sense to give each character his or her own section, and include all of his or her information, including redesigns, etc.? I think it would make for a more accessible encyclopidia experience. Stumpers!

I think it would make more sense to expand the section when the game is out and we know more about them. Salty^Talk! 23:38, 8 August 2007 (EDT)

I think it would make more sense to describe all that on the character page.Knife (talk) 00:55, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

I thought we should wait for the game to be released, and then create character bios like on the other SSB articles. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 05:40, 9 August 2007 (EDT)