MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived. A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}. Signing with the signature code ~~~(~) is not allowed due to technical issues. How To Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at: Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm) Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm) Sunday: 15:00 (3pm) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help. The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights). So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours. Also, NO PROPOSALS ABOUT HAVING BANJO AND CONKER ARTICLES No proposals on Sysop promotions or demotions. Those are exclusively decided by Bureaucrats. -The Management. CURRENTLY: 13:40, 22 May 2024 (EDT) New Features No proposal at the moment. Removals None at the moment. Splits & Merges Grandma Toadstool A little bit of history before the proposal: in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! episode "Little Red Riding Princess" (1989), the character Grandma Toadstool was introduced as Peach's grandmother. This was her official name, as seen on her mailbox, and it was a proper noun (ex. "Baby Mario" rather than "baby Mario"). Grandma Toadstool was a human character who lived in the Mushroom Woods. Later, in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (1996), a Toad character living in the Mushroom Castle appeared under the improper name, "Toadstool's grandma"/"Toadstool's grandmother." (note improper capitalization). Currently, our article named Grandma Toadstool is a joint article about both characters. The writers speculate that the two characters are the same person. However, I'm proposing that we split the article into two articles: one for each grandmother. Here's my reasoning: as seen in the Paper Mario, family structure in the Mushroom World is similar to non-fictional human family structure (Goombario's family and others). It is only logical that Princess Toadstool would have two grandmothers. This proposal aims to end the conjecture that the two characters with different names are the same person when they look entirely different. However, we can of course note the possibility that the two characters are the same on their respective articles, and I will include a template at the top of the articles linking to the other grandmother to avoid confusion. Proposer: Stumpers (talk) Deadline: August 7th, 2008, 17:00 Support Stumpers (talk) The two characters have nothing in common (not even species) and it is conceivable that Toadstool would have two grandmothers. Cobold (talk) Two entirely different characters with the same name have been split in the past. Stooben Rooben (talk) - Per Stumpers and Cobold. 02:43, 2 August 2008 (EDT) Luigi001 (talk)Per Stumpers. tanokkitails (talk) per all Glitchman (talk) I would have said no, but Stumpers's reasoning finally convinced me. I can't say no to his proposals. Walkazo (talk) - Per Stumpers. Oppose Comments Just for the record, if this passes the page names will be "Grandma Toadstool" for the SMBSS character and "Toadstool's gramndmother" for the SMRPG one unless someone has an official name for the latter. (and can back it up!) Stumpers (talk) 18:39, 1 August 2008 (EDT) Is a Toad really Peach's grandmother? If that was true, wouldn't Peach have some sort of Toad-like feature? Anyway, some people consider the Super Mario Bros. Super Show to be alternate canon since it wasn't made by Nintendo. So, uh, the one from the show might not canonically be one of Peach's grandmothers. But sure, split the page if you guys think it's a good idea. CrystalYoshi 21:15, 4 August 2008 (EDT) Alternate canon simply means, according to Son of Suns, sources of unconfirmed connection to the main series of video games, so it's really not an issue whether it is alternate canon or not. I wouldn't assume that Rosalina and Peach were the same character if one came from alternate canon sources, so I wouldn't consider Peach's grandmothers to be the same character. By the way, if you want to consider only content made by Nintendo to be canon, then Super Mario RPG (made by SquareSoft) is also non-canon, and therefore both grandmothers would be, "non-canon." Stumpers! 02:08, 5 August 2008 (EDT) Changes Bios I have noticed, that the people's pages (i.e. Satoru Iwata) haven't got many or any information about their lives, childhood, etc. So i propse to add a decent bio to the most important pages. Proposer: User:Tucayo Deadline: August 7th, 2008, 17:00 Support Stooben Rooben (talk) - While it may not have much to do with Mario, I agree that the articles should be much larger. The Deanna Mustard article is fantastic (in my opinion), because it contains a lot about her life and how she got to be a voice actor. Tucayo (talk) - Per my proposal. Mario Gamer (talk) - Just because it doesn't directly relate to the Mario Wiki doesn't mean it's not an interesting read this website can provide someone with. I don't understand why people would vote against adding length to a relatively empty page. Luigi001 (talk)Per Stooben Rooben. The people do have a connection to the Mario series (voice acting, production, etc.) and we are a wiki covering anything Mario related, so the people deserve good bios. Oppose Palkia47 (talk) - No, as it has nothing to do with the Mario Wiki. As seen in my past proposals and other places, we are not to create/add info that have nothing to do with the Mario/DK/Yoshi/Wario/SSB series'. This possibly goes for profiles/bios for real life people whom had some kind of relation to Mario via creating games, etc. Mrsdaisyluigi (talk) Per Palkia47. Per Palkia Toadette 4evur (talk) DaWeegeeMan (talk) Per Palkia Comments You're allowed to include any information about what lead to their current position in the Mario production process. For example, with Lou Albano you would briefly mention that he earned his fame first as a wrestler and then as an wrestling manager, and eventually he started doing TV work. Then he was contacted to read for Mario and blah, blah, blah. At this point you get specific because it's about his role in the Super Show! rather than information about his life prior. So, as it stands you are allowed to lightly touch on what you're talking about as long as it pertains in someway to their role later in life. Reasons for leaving (if applicable) should also be mentioned. You could also mention a short bit about what they did after their involvement, but again, just touch on it. Stumpers (talk) Additionally, a link could be provided to a persons Wikipedia article in case the reader would like further information. -- Ghost Jam (talk) Palkia47 opposing something because it "has nothing to do with Mario"? Ohhhh the irony! Blitzwing (talk) ...I'm taking that has sarcasm or an insult. Needless to say, should I remove my vote? Palkia47 (talk) Is Tucayo going to support his own proposal or not? Pikax (talk) Wow, i tought i had alredy did, but it seems that me didn't The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tucayo (talk). This proposal isn't specific enough. Yes, I think a "decent bio" would be helpful, but I also agree with Palkia and Stumpers that we shouldn't cover aspects which aren't related to Mario. What should I vote for then? Could you please clarify what you're aiming to achieve with this proposal, Tucayo? Time Q (talk) Miscellaneous None at the moment.