MarioWiki:Proposals: Difference between revisions

From the Super Mario Wiki, the Mario encyclopedia
Jump to navigationJump to search
Line 14: Line 14:
==New features==
==New features==


===Crteate an arcade page ===
''None at the moment.''
(UPDATE)
Ok, what 1337star said dawned on me as an even better idea. Again as I said in the comments I wrote this at 3 Am and I was so tired I wrote my first idea down without any 2nd thoughts. I don’t know if it’s too late to change but I still am going to change the proposal below to the creation of separate articles on the various different arcade machines that Mario games have been on.
 
 
A little while ago I wanted to search for all the Mario arcade games, I typed in the toolbar arcade games and all that showed up was a little category list thing naming the names of the arcade games. Its wired that the wiki with full articles about every platform a Mario game came out on only has a small list for the platform Mario got his start on. The page would be the same as any console or platform a small summary about the platform and how it was involved with the Mario franchise and a list of all Mario and Donkey Kong games. So if the Philips cd-i can gets its own page than arcade games should to.
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|Green6017 Guy}}<br>
'''Deadline''': January 28, 2015, 23:59 GMT
====Support====
#{{User|Green6017 Guy}} Per me as this is my proposal.
#{{User|Toadbrigade5}} I'm with you on this, and per you. But however, I must point out we don't know much about the arcade games, they simply aren't around anymore. Its likely they aren't here cause no one can find anything on it. I'd like the info, but its going to be really hard to get.
 
====Oppose====
#{{User|1337star}} I don't agree with the proposal as written. As Mario notes in the comments, "arcade" is not a platform, it's a group of platforms. It would be like us making an article on "video game console" (rather than [[Nintendo Entertainment System]] or [[Wii]]) or "personal computer" (rather than [[MS-DOS]] or Apple II). Now I would support articles on the various different arcade machines that Mario games have been on (in fact, we already have one: [[Nintendo PlayChoice-10]]), so long as it follows the guidelines of [[MarioWiki:New Articles Policy#Consoles|MW:NAP]].
#{{User|Madz the Penguin}} Per 1337star. Calling something "arcade games" is very vague and unprofessional, and I would rather mention the actual system it's on. Since we don't exactly know the specific name for it, we can't make an article for it, and we must find other ways to mention the system.
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} Generally, per standard procedure, specifically standard proposal rule 15. Broadly, now that we have some opinions rolling, per 1337star. I see where you're going with this, but it needs to be narrowed down a bit. Generally speaking, "arcade" isn't considered a "system" in the traditional sense, so care needs to be taken in how it's logged in the database. Not against the whole idea, but it requires more discussion than your libel to get in a proposal.
#{{User|Stonehill}} Per 1337star.
#{{User|Andymii}} Per 1337star.
 
====Comments====
The proposal is kind of vague when it comes to arcade. Are you talking arcade as a whole or make pages for separate arcade consoles? If the former, then there's the question of consistency: why doesn't handheld get its own page either? If the latter, we might get several articles on arcade consoles, but I'm not sure if that's a good way to do things. For instance, ''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP 2]]'' uses the Triforce arcade console. P.S. It's also really difficult to read your proposal; do you need help with grammar and spelling? {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:42, 21 January 2015 (EST)
 
Sorry I wrote it while I was half asleep at 3 Am in the morning. I was planing on writing it earlier but stuff happend. sorry again and if I have the time Ill rewrite it.
[[File:Unknown Shy Guy.PNG|30px]] [[User:Green6017 Guy|<span style="font-fancy:serif;color:#0F3">Green6017 Guy</span>]][[File:Unknown Shy Guy.PNG|30px]]
 
Just a note here on some of the different arcade boards that already have/could have articles:
 
*'''[[Nintendo Vs. System]]''' - system used by ''[[Vs. Super Mario Bros.]]'', ''[[Dr. Mario (game)#Vs. Dr. Mario|Vs. Dr. Mario]]'', and, well, any of the ''Mario'' arcade games with "Vs." in the title.
*'''[[Nintendo PlayChoice-10]]''' - system used by the arcade ports of certain NES games: ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'', ''[[NES Open Tournament Golf]]'', etc.
*'''Nintendo Super System''' - system used by the arcade ports of certain SNES games. The only Mario game on it was ''[[Super Mario World]]''.
*'''Super Famicom Box''' - system used by the arcade ports of certain other SNES games: ''[[Super Mario Kart]]'', ''[[Super Mario All-Stars]]'', and ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]''.
*'''Triforce''' - system used by ''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP]]''/''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP 2|2]]'', ''[[Donkey Kong: Jungle Fever]]'', and ''[[Donkey Kong: Banana Kingdom]]''.
 
These are just the ones I could find from a quick search on Wikipedia (plus other sources when Wikipedia was vague. If you're serious about improving our arcade coverage, doing further research on these five and finding others would be a good start. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User talk:1337star|Mailbox SP]])</sup> 15:35, 23 January 2015 (EST)
 
This proposal is somewhat of a mixed idea in my opinion.  We should have another option for giving each individual Arcade platform its own article and that is the option I would support and I'd imagine many other people who are currently opposing this proposal would switch their votes to that option too.  Individual users are not allowed to edit other users proposals so we'd need Green6017 Guy to rewrite it to continue.  {{User:Kart Player 2011/sig}} 17:25, 23 January 2015 (EST)


==Removals==
==Removals==

Revision as of 02:59, January 30, 2015

Image used as a banner for the Proposals page

Current time:
Tuesday, April 30th, 07:28 GMT

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
  • All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
  • For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

Rules

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
  2. Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option on proposals with more than two choices.
  3. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
  5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
    • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
  6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  7. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  8. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  9. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
  10. If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
  11. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
  12. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
  15. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  16. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
  17. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
  18. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.


===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "April 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====


Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.

Rules

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
  5. When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Merge the Wrecking Crew and VS. Wrecking Crew phases into list articles, Axis (ended February 24, 2022)
Do not consider usage of classic recurring themes as references to the game of origin, Swallow (ended March 9, 2022)
Split Mario Kart Tour character variants into list articles, Tails777 (ended May 4, 2022)
Enforce WCAG Level AA standards to mainspace and template content, PanchamBro (ended May 29, 2022)
Change how RPG enemy infoboxes classify role, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2022)
Trim away detailed special move information for all non-Mario fighters, Koopa con Carne (ended January 30, 2023)
Classify the Just Dance series as a guest appearance, Spectrogram (ended April 27, 2023)
Establish a standard for long course listings in articles for characters/enemies/items/etc., Koopa con Carne (ended June 8, 2023)
Consider filenames as sources and create redirects, Axis (ended August 24, 2023)
Add tabbers to race/battle course articles, GuntherBB (ended November 18, 2023)
Remove elemental creatures categories from various Super Mario RPG enemies, Swallow (ended January 11, 2024)
Standardize the formatting of foreign and explanatory words and phrases in "Names in other languages" tables, Annalisa10 (ended February 7, 2024)
Trim or remove various Smash franchise-specific subcategories, Camwoodstock (ended February 25, 2024)
Merge Super Mario Bros. (film) subjects with their game counterparts, JanMisali (ended April 18, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)
Split the various reissues of Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended April 22, 2022)
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)
Expand source priority exception to include regional English differences, LinkTheLefty (ended January 14, 2023)
Add product IDs in game infoboxes, Windy (ended March 18, 2023)
Remove the list of Super Smash Bros. series objects, Axis (ended May 10, 2023)
Merge Start Dash with Rocket Start, Koopa con Carne (ended August 17, 2023)
Use italics for the full title of the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass, Hewer (ended September 15, 2023)
Split Special Shot into separate articles by game, Technetium (ended September 30, 2023)
Convert the lists of episode appearances for television series characters into categories, Camwoodstock (ended November 22, 2023)
Decide which series certain Yoshi games are related to, GuntherBB (ended December 14, 2023)
Change the Super Mario 64 DS level section to include more specific character requirements, Altendo (ended December 20, 2023)
Replace "List of Game Over screens" and "'Game Over' as death" sections with a "History" section, DrippingYellow (ended December 20, 2023)
Split the Jungle Buddies from Animal Friends, DrippingYellow (ended December 22, 2023)
Make major changes to the MarioWiki:Links page, PnnyCrygr (ended January 10, 2024)
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Merge the "Johnson" running gag into one page, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Merge the ghost Bats and Mice from Luigi's Mansion to their respective organic counterparts from the later games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)
Split Strobomb from Robomb, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)
Split the NES and SNES releases of Wario's Woods, SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (ended March 27, 2024)
Merge Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, and Mii Gunner to Mii, TheUndescribableGhost (ended March 28, 2024)
Merge Masterpieces to the Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U articles, Camwoodstock (ended March 31, 2024)
Merge Game & Watch: Manhole (minigame) with Manhole (Game & Watch), JanMisali (ended April 9, 2024)
Split Mario's Time Machine (Nintendo Entertainment System), or the Super Nintendo Entertainment version along with both console versions of Mario is Missing!, LinkTheLefty (ended April 11, 2024)
Rename Beanstalk to Vine, DrippingYellow (ended April 11, 2024)
Split Hell from List of implied locations, Hewer (ended April 27, 2024)

List of Talk Page Proposals

Writing Guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

None at the moment.

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.