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{{DISPLAYTITLE:The Black Lightning's Conference Room!}}
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''This page archives messages received from November 2016 to February 2018. In this era, Ultimate Mr. L's edits began to slack off slightly. He even took a hiatus or two...before returning to take on even larger projects than before, continuing to build his growing green empire!''
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"''You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.''"
— Obi-Wan Kenobi, about Ultimate Mr. L's talk page.
==Rules==
==Rules==
[[File:Ultimate Dark Bowser.png|120px]]<br>
[[File:Ultimate Dark Bowser.png|120px]]<br>
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5. Overall, just use common sense
5. Overall, just use common sense
:a. Try to follow the general rules of the wiki.
:a. Try to follow the general rules of the wiki.
6. Messages will normally be answered on my talk page, for archival purposes.<br>
6. Messages will be answered both on my talk page and the messenger's, for archival purposes.<br>
7. The page will be given an archive every 40 messages.
7. The page will be given an archive every 40 messages.


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:Alright! I was told you should be the one to upgrade the Super Paper Mario bestiary.
:Alright! I was told you should be the one to upgrade the Super Paper Mario bestiary.
:Here's the template you'll need: [[template:SPMbestiary]]
:Here's the template you'll need: [[template:SPM bestiary]]
:Everything should be self explanatory since it's almost no different from placing the enemy boxes. But, I do have a few pointers:
:Everything should be self explanatory since it's almost no different from placing the enemy boxes. But, I do have a few pointers:
*Whatever you put next to <code>|name=</code> needs to be exactly what you replace <code>NAME</code> with. However, no two enemies on the page can have the same <code>NAME</code>.
*Whatever you put next to <code>|name=</code> needs to be exactly what you replace <code>NAME</code> with. However, no two enemies on the page can have the same <code>NAME</code>.
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:::::I've been petty busy. You may just want to start on it yourself and I'll contribute when I can. I don't mind. It needs to get done. Thanks.
:::::I've been petty busy. You may just want to start on it yourself and I'll contribute when I can. I don't mind. It needs to get done. Thanks.
:::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 22:36, 22 February 2017 (EST)
:::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 22:36, 22 February 2017 (EST)
::::::It is May 11th now, and yet no one has changed it to reflect the proposal. I know you have school. So, are you going be done soon? {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 18:05, 11 May 2017 (EDT) PS. You don't have to, but I think you should change the links in the userbox of me?
:::::::I will be done probably by the end of next month or sooner. I will then have time to tackle large projects like that. I ma have to ask someone else to create teh template for me, though. I don't think i'm that advanced in coding.
:::::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 10:25, 12 May 2017 (EDT)
::::::::I created the template for you. If you want, I can do the rest, but if you don't want it, then tell me that. But, if you ask me, I will get it done by E3 this year. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 18:11, 13 May 2017 (EDT)
:::::::::Looks good. Thanks a bunch. I'll start as soon as I'm not real busy.
:::::::::P.S. Your sig still spells out Space Station Manager.
:::::::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 18:18, 13 May 2017 (EDT)


== Re: Nastasia Rewrite ==
== Re: Nastasia Rewrite ==


Done.
Done.
--[[File:Alien_Bunny_Sprite.png‎|25px]][[User:L151|<font color=purple><big>'''L'''</big></font color>]][[User Talk:L151|<font color=pink><big>'''151'''</big></font color>]][[File:Onnanoko_transparent_WC98.png‎|20px]] 15:02, 24 January 2017 (EST)
--[[File:Alien_Bunny_Sprite.png|25px]][[User:L151|<font color=purple><big>'''L'''</big></font color>]][[User Talk:L151|<font color=pink><big>'''151'''</big></font color>]][[File:Onnanoko_transparent_WC98.png|20px]] 15:02, 24 January 2017 (EST)


The history needs to be concise. Did you viewed [[MarioWiki:Good writing]]?
The history needs to be concise. Did you viewed [[MarioWiki:Good writing]]?
--[[File:Alien_Bunny_Sprite.png‎|25px]][[User:L151|<font color=purple><big>'''L'''</big></font color>]][[User Talk:L151|<font color=pink><big>'''151'''</big></font color>]][[File:Onnanoko_transparent_WC98.png‎|20px]] 18:08, 26 January 2017 (EST)
--[[File:Alien_Bunny_Sprite.png|25px]][[User:L151|<font color=purple><big>'''L'''</big></font color>]][[User Talk:L151|<font color=pink><big>'''151'''</big></font color>]][[File:Onnanoko_transparent_WC98.png|20px]] 18:08, 26 January 2017 (EST)


:I did. I think I know what your problem is, but I don't agree. I'm guessing you don't think it's necessary to list all of Nastasia's actions in every chapter interlude. But I think that's just fine. If that is the problem, we should get more user input. That's usually my solution to conflict.
:I did. I think I know what your problem is, but I don't agree. I'm guessing you don't think it's necessary to list all of Nastasia's actions in every chapter interlude. But I think that's just fine. If that is the problem, we should get more user input. That's usually my solution to conflict.
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:.... Thank you?
:.... Thank you?
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:07, 19 February 2017 (EST)
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:07, 19 February 2017 (EST)
== Off Waves Recovered ==
Hey, hope you're not too upset at [[Off Waves]] being deleted earlier. I asked {{User|Henry Tucayo Clay}} to recover the latest information, so that has all been readded. Nothing has been lost :)
Additionally (and I didn't exactly help much in this regard <small>as I completely blanked on it...</small>), if you want to move the information from one page to another, you have to actually click the "Move" option at the top. If the target page currently has history on it, it won't allow the move, so you have to mark it up for deletion saying something like <nowiki>{{delete|Make way for move}}</nowiki>. Doing this preserves the pages' histories so there's no loss of information. I don't know if you knew that already and blanked out on it yourself like I did, but here's the information for next time. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:32, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
:I'd be upset if the information couldn't be recovered, but I'm not too mad about the other part. I did not know the protocol for moving a page to a name that already exists, so thanks to you and {{User|Yoshi876}} for fixing that up for me.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 16:47, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
::Obviously it has been recovered, but just to reassure you, everything you wrote was fine :) {{User|Yoshi876}}
== RE:New "henchman"? ==
Heh, yeah, sure! Here's my userbox. I know you don't accept "friends" per se, so maybe this will work:
{{userbox|border=#FFFF00|mainbkgd=#FF0000|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=black|code=[[file:Stephan.png|60px]]|msg={{User|Alex95}} is a valuable member of Ultimate Mr. L's legion!}}
{{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:05, 25 March 2017 (EDT)
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== RogueSphere5678 ==
Hi, are you familiar with the account {{user|RogueSphere5678}}? You both appear to share the exact same IP address and computer info. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:58, 28 March 2017 (EDT)
:I realized as soon as I saw your message that I had made a mistake. My friend is over and he made an account... on my computer. Don't worry, I'm not sockpuppeting. If this is a problem, I suppose his account could be deleted and he could remake it at his house, but that would screw up the one contribution he made. Is there a way to move the IP info when he goes home?
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 22:03, 28 March 2017 (EDT)
::I see; that's okay, then. Deleting/moving won't be necessary; your friend can continue using his account like normal, now that you've let me know. Thanks. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:24, 28 March 2017 (EDT)
:::I am able to log in from my 2DS, but it is the same IP. But it should work for him to move locations as long as he remembers the password. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 22:29, 28 March 2017 (EDT)
:::Your friend would need to wait to be autoconfirmed anyway in order to create their own signature page. You can upload it for them in the meantime if you like, unless they'd rather wait to upload it themselves. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:54, 28 March 2017 (EDT)
::::OK, thanks.
::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 00:03, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
== Goodbye ==
I managed to get by for a few weeks, but eventually, the guys at Nintendo of America quite allowing me to edit this wiki, probably afraid I'd give away new information (I write the stories for the games). So I'm afraid I need to go inactive. I won't be returning. Look for my name in the credits of the next Mario game. Goodbye, everyone. Keep contributing, since I can't. Ultimate Mr. L is real 2401!<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 12:12, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
:Lucky! It'll be sad without you here, but good luck with your new profession! {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:15, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
::April Fools! While Story Writer remains my dream job, I do not work for Nintendo and will be contributing, hopefully, for years to come. :)
::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 23:31, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
:::No, you did not. I was just playing along. It would be cool if it happened, though! :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 01:00, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
::::I'm sure if you was working for [[Nintendo]] you still would be able to edit the wiki. <br> {{User:The Koopa Bro./sig}} 02:40, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
== ''Super Mario Maker'' Sample Courses ==
Hey, on your work page, it says that you plan on creating the articles for the sample courses, but is it ok if I create some of them? I accidentally already created four of them before asking. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 13:48, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
:I completely forgot about that project! I'm finally not busy, so I can get back on it, but I don't mind some help.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 16:05, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
::Thanks, I only planned on making a few anyway. I'll probably be able to make at least one tomorrow. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 17:57, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
:::I believe that I have made all of the sample course articles I planned on. Thanks again for letting me help! It also appears that {{User|Toadette the Achiever}} is helping creating sample course articles. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 17:20, 14 April 2017 (EDT)
==re: Shadow Character==
My logic is that there were still wicks to the Shadow Character page when I made the redirect, and when merging pages, I prefer to make redirects so that anyone who remember the original name can more easily look up what happened to the page. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 23:47, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
== Image Replaced ==
[[:File:Normal lizardguy.jpg]] has been replaced by [[:File:Francis SPM trans.png]] and your userpage is using the now deleted image. Just a heads up. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 18:57, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
:Thanks for the heads up!<br>
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:13, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
== How have you been? ==
Hey, it's been a while since I've talked to you; how's it been going for you? It looks like you've been less active here the past few months. I've been editing less here, but I've been on the forum a lot. Do you have a forum account?<br>{{User:Luigi 64DD/sig}} 14:08, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
:I do not. And yes, I have been less active, but I'm still on at least once a day to check the Recent Changes.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 15:17, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
== Redirects ==
Hello! According to the [[MarioWiki:Redirects|policy]], a proper-capitalization redirect and all-lowercase redirect may exist for each topic, so [[Afoot in the Foothills]], [[The Sands of Yold]], and [[Monster of the Ruins]] are okay to have. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 20:09, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
:Oh, okay. Thanks for the heads up. So should I make the rest of them all-lowercase, or should I make a capitalized and lowercase one for each level?
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 20:11, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
::You should probably make both, as when I asked {{User|Henry Tucayo Clay}} about it awhile age, he mentioned that just having a lowercase redirect would cause a red link if the proper name was linked to in an article.--{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 20:13, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
:::Will do. I'll start now. Thanks.
:::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 20:14, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
On the topic of redirects, please also keep in mind that, according to policy, lowercase redirects are not necessary if searching in all lowercase takes you to the page, either directly or through another redirect, ''without'' the lowercase redirect. So "[[afoot in the foothills]]" is fine because, without it, MediaWiki's search function won't recognise it as "[[Afoot in the Foothills]]". Redirects like "into outer space" are unneeded, since searching that will take me there anyway thanks to another one you created, "[[Into Outer Space]]". I would recommend searching first before creating a redirect. Thanks! {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:12, 21 June 2017 (EDT)
:Oh, okay. For a lot of them, I used the Search bar, but the redirect still worked. But I thought I still needed a lowercase one (not sure what was going on in my head), so I went to an article, made a link, clicked show preview, and clicked the red link to make it. So no more of that.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 11:17, 21 June 2017 (EDT)
::It seems that we don't need a lowercase redirect if all of the words are capitalized in the proper one. For example, I needed both for '''A Crag in the Dark''' because two words are lowercase. But I only needed one for '''The Sealed Doors Three'''.
::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 11:26, 21 June 2017 (EDT)
== You're cool! ==
Hey, I got a few userpage ideas from you and think you're really cool! Nice work on your userpage! [[File:DarkBowserBIS.png|35px]][[User:DarkBowser777|<span style="font-family:serif;color:darkblue">DarkBowser777</span>]]([[User talk:DarkBowser777|talk]])[[File:Dreamy Bowser idle.png|35px]] 20:29, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
:Thanks! Your page is cool, too. (I enjoyed Dark Fawful vs Dreamy Bowser vs. SUPER MEGA ULTRA GREAT RUTHLESS GIANT BLIZZARD MIDBUS)
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:16, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
Thank you! [[File:DarkBowserBIS.png|35px]][[User:DarkBowser777|<span style="font-family:serif;color:darkblue">DarkBowser777</span>]]([[User talk:DarkBowser777|talk]])[[File:Dreamy Bowser idle.png|35px]] 09:19, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
== Thing ==
I agree with darkbowser, i think your userpage is cool too! --[[User:Luigifan312|Luigifan312]] ([[User talk:Luigifan312|talk]]) 22:38, 25 August 2017 (EDT)
== Moving pages ==
Something to keep in mind: whenever you move an article, you're also responsible for correcting every link to that article. [[Victory Parade]] applies; every article that links to [[Parade]] should instead link to that page. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 20:28, 6 October 2017 (EDT)
:OK. Thanks for the reminder.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 13:23, 8 October 2017 (EDT)
::The navigation templates also count, and every link there is transcluded onto the articles it's on. In this case, [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Template:PM&curid=86092&diff=2304712&oldid=2276212 Template:PM] still linked to it. Editing the navigation templates first clears out the bulk of the list. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
:::OK. Thanks a bunch.
:::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 13:39, 8 October 2017 (EDT)
== Two Minor Things ==
Oh, okay, I got it, Black Lightning. As for archiving my talk page, um...I don't know. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] always archives his talk page when it reaches one-hundred topics, so I might have a little bit of space to work with. I don't know, I will have to look into it, but anyway, thanks for the info! I will be sure to keep it in mind, Black Lightning. {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 21:11, 27 October 2017 (EDT)
== Goomboss Trivia ==
Just letting you know, I didn't create that piece of trivia about Goomboss' motives. I just fixed a lot of spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. I even questioned its position as being trivial or not.--[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 12:33, 31 October 2017 (EDT)
:Yeah, I know. I'm the one who undid the original edit. See my edit summaries for my reasoning.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 14:09, 31 October 2017 (EDT)
== RE:Reminder ==
<s>Don't scare me with that title</s> Yes. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:31, 31 October 2017 (EDT)
== thanks for reminding ==
thanks for reminding me to sign comments
also I am just in a hurry to write a message so if I forget it is because I am in a hurry [[User:Mariostar6|Mariostar6]] ([[User talk:Mariostar6|talk]]) 18:38, 31 October 2017 (EDT)Mariostar6
see I have signed see .[[User:Mariostar6|Mariostar6]] ([[User talk:Mariostar6|talk]]) 18:22, 1 November 2017 (EDT)mariostar6
== Indents ==
As I have said before, I don't indent my comments because I don't want [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick#Re:Allies|this]] to happen. {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 22:28, 4 November 2017 (EDT)
== References ==
[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Brigadier_Mollosque-Lanceur_III&curid=237648&diff=2330233&oldid=2329444 Be careful about removing too many references]. Anything that just says "this exists" can be freely removed, but you've also removed a citation from the Prima strategy guide. Since that information is only available in said guide, it should stay. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 10:06, 6 November 2017 (EST)
:Oh, okay. Sorry about that.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 14:55, 6 November 2017 (EST)
== Reminder ==
I know that, but I've always noticed him doing ''something'' with his signature, so that's why I put the reminder there. Again, I was not trying to overreact there, so don't jump off the slippery slope. {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 20:58, 4 December 2017 (EST)
:[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User:Astro-Lanceur/sig&curid=233416&action=history He actually has been doing a lot with it, I've noticed every time]. That's 14 edits in the past one month. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:59, 4 December 2017 (EST)
::[[User talk:Astro-Lanceur#Signature Limit|Looks like Alex95 cleared that up.]]
::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:09, 4 December 2017 (EST)
:::[[Special:Contributions/Astro-Lanceur|While he does tend to edit his userspace a lot]], it really becomes a problem if it's consistent and/or his focus (i.e. more edits to userspace than mainspace). {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:12, 4 December 2017 (EST)
== The New Guy. ==
Hi, Ultimate Mr. L! My name's SafariKid2.
::And yes, I'm the guy who accidentally added [[Princess Peach|Peach]], [[Geno]] and [[Mallow]] to the Villains category. SafariKid2 19:48, 9 December 2017 (EST)
== An accident. ==
Sorry, I just help it...
::The former ([[Scaredy Rat]]) is just a wee bit of a spoiler for M&LPJ, despite it being already released, and the latter ([[Mizzter Blizzard]]) is kind of weird, since you guys don't know is some of the bosses and final bosses are truly villains or not. SafariKid2 20:20, 9 December 2017 (EST)
== Metal Face ==
Don't tell me, is the boss category sufficient enough for [[Metal Face]] as well?
== RE: Edit Sniping ==
Sorry about that. {{User:LuigiMaster123/sig}} 16:07, 14 December 2017 (EST)
== An image on your userpage has been replaced ==
<code><nowiki>{{userbox|border=red|mainbkgd=red|codebkgd=red|codecolor=yellow|code=[[</nowiki>'''File:NightFalls.png'''<nowiki>|60px]]|msg=This user hates strict time limits!}}</nowiki></code>
<br>should be changed to<br>
<code><nowiki>{{userbox|border=red|mainbkgd=red|codebkgd=red|codecolor=yellow|code=[[</nowiki>'''File:Night Falls.jpg'''<nowiki>|60px]]|msg=This user hates strict time limits!}}</nowiki></code> --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 14:19, 1 January 2018 (EST)
:Thanks.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 10:40, 2 January 2018 (EST)
== Order of navigation templates ==
I elaborated on my oppose vote on [[MarioWiki:Proposals#How to order navigation templates|this proposal]], which I think you might want to comment on, especially regarding the last point. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:08, 18 January 2018 (EST)
:You made some valid points, so I added a vote to Option 4, while giving more reasoning for my vote on Option 2.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 16:43, 18 January 2018 (EST)
:P.S. I had to remove your paragraph indents, as those screw up the numbering system. It's a big-ol' block of text now, but there's nothing we can do about it. Sorry.
== Userpage transclusion ==
[[MarioWiki:Userspace#What_about_user_subpages.3F|Nope]]. If you're only planning on transcluding your userbox tower onto one page, that's not allowed. Your status can go on a subpage if it's also on your talk, however. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:43, 22 January 2018 (EST)
:I knew as soon as I saw I had a message that it had to be about that. Darn. I actually felt kind of smart for once in my life. Okay, I'll go ahead and take it down, butI'll look into this matter a bit more. This kind of thing is useful for people like me with insanely long userbox towers, so I want to know the details. Anyway, thanks for the alert.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 20:47, 22 January 2018 (EST)
::It would be a good idea if it wasn't for the policy :P If you want to cut down on bytes and loading time, may be a good idea to go over your page and see what can be done with. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:50, 22 January 2018 (EST)
== Bowser quote ==
One of the Bowser quotes in ''Super Paper Mario'' we have listed seems off to me: "''That Mr. L freak is a total insano.''" I don't know what an "insano" is, and the word "insane" doesn't seem to work here. What is this supposed to be? [[List_of_Super_Paper_Mario_quotes#Chapter_6|Quote's in Chapter 6]]. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:33, 5 February 2018 (EST)
:I have no way of getting all of Bowser's quotes from throughout the game other than playing it again, so I'm not sure. i can't find a single video of Bowser against Brobot L-type, so I can't confirm or deny that he said that.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 13:24, 5 February 2018 (EST)
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