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==Relation to Cheep Cheeps== | ==Relation to Cheep Cheeps== | ||
{{multiframe|1=<div style=background:blue>[[File:CheepCheepSMW.png|64px]]</div>|align=right|size=64|2=Truly hideous.}} | {{multiframe|1=<div style=background:blue>[[File:CheepCheepSMW.png|64px]]</div>|align=right|size=64|2=Truly hideous.}} | ||
While [[Porcupuffer]] at least looks like a Cheep Cheep, and [[Blurp]] and [[Piscatory Pete]] have Japanese names indicating their relations, these don't really seem to have anything indicating that they're a Cheep Cheep. Granted, Cheep Cheep in ''Super Mario World'' was the first in a string of awfully off-model Cheeps, and it was a lot more flexible than most depictions, as seen by the flopping sprites, but still, there really isn't anything definitively pointing to them being Cheep Cheeps. Even [[Spray Fish]] seems more viable, it at least has the mohawk going for it. <s>(Also, why can't I make that picture I'm using to show how hideous the SMW Cheep was any bigger?)</s> [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:32, 28 December 2017 (EST) | While [[Porcupuffer]] at least looks like a Cheep Cheep, and [[Blurp]] and [[Piscatory Pete]] have Japanese names indicating their relations, these don't really seem to have anything indicating that they're a Cheep Cheep. Granted, Cheep Cheep in ''Super Mario World'' was the first in a string of awfully off-model Cheeps, and it was a lot more flexible than most depictions, as seen by the flopping sprites, but still, there really isn't anything definitively pointing to them being Cheep Cheeps. Even [[Spray Fish]] seems more viable, it at least has the mohawk going for it. <s>(Also, why can't I make that picture I'm using to show how hideous the SMW Cheep was any bigger?)</s> [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:32, 28 December 2017 (EST) | ||
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::::::::::::::::Porcupuffer is at least ''shaped'' like a Cheep Cheep, ''and'' was used as a large counterpart in 3D Land/World. So I'd say there's a direct connection on that one. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:02, April 22, 2019 (EDT) | ::::::::::::::::Porcupuffer is at least ''shaped'' like a Cheep Cheep, ''and'' was used as a large counterpart in 3D Land/World. So I'd say there's a direct connection on that one. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:02, April 22, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:::::::::::::::::I'd agree to demote Porcupuffer as a derivative of Cheep Cheep, even though it slightly resembles a Cheep Cheep. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:23, April 26, 2019 (EDT) | :::::::::::::::::I'd agree to demote Porcupuffer as a derivative of Cheep Cheep, even though it slightly resembles a Cheep Cheep. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:23, April 26, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::::::::::::::::::According to Mister Wu, only one early guide (out of at least six) directly refers to Porcupuffer as a type of Cheep Cheep, with later references dropping the connection. It isn't worth making a new proposal over it, but it's something to keep in mind since there is similarly one source that connects Rip Van Fish to Cheep Cheep. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:55, May 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
Given the major agreement, should we demote it as a derivative? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 05:37, May 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Which? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:41, May 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::The Rip Van Fish. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:48, May 6, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::IIRC, the Daizukan used "Pukupuku" as well, for the Porcupuffer, as Mister Wu used the texts. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:06, May 23, 2019 (EDT) | |||
===References=== | ===References=== | ||
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