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== Split Dodorigesu Jr. from Pidgit == | == Split Dodorigesu Jr. from Pidgit == | ||
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Different Japanese name and acts differently, it's basically the [[Fire Snake]]/[[Bound Fire]] issue all over again. | Different Japanese name and acts differently, it's basically the [[Fire Snake]]/[[Bound Fire]] issue all over again. | ||
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#{{User|Mario}} It's a variation that varies enough for it to be split. Unless we're presented with evidence otherwise, I support the split. | #{{User|Mario}} It's a variation that varies enough for it to be split. Unless we're presented with evidence otherwise, I support the split. | ||
#{{User|Stonehill}} Yep, they're two different enemies. | #{{User|Stonehill}} Yep, they're two different enemies. | ||
#{{User|Burningdragon25}} Different enemies indeed so, that is a split! | |||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
Would Dodorigesu Jr. be limited to ''Mario & Wario'' information, or would they be considered Pidgits without magic carpets? The sprites seem to be nigh-identical (like Ninjis in ''SMW'') and the official ''SMB2''/''DDP'' Pidgit profile states that Wart gave them their magic carpets, so that may imply the latter. The ''Mario & Wario'' manual doesn't answer this question directly, and I'll provide a quote and translation to show that: | Would Dodorigesu Jr. be limited to ''Mario & Wario'' information, or would they be considered Pidgits without magic carpets? The sprites seem to be nigh-identical (like Ninjis in ''SMW'') and the official ''SMB2''/''DDP'' Pidgit profile states that Wart gave them their magic carpets, so that may imply the latter. The ''Mario & Wario'' manual doesn't answer this question directly, and I'll provide a quote and translation to show that: | ||
<blockquote>「<span class="explain" title="ま">真</span>っ<span class="explain" title="くろ">黒</span>なカラスです。マリオたちが<span class="explain" title="ちか">近</span>づく<span class="explain" title="まえ">前</span>に、<span class="explain" title="はや">早</span>めにやっつけておきましょう。」 ('' | <blockquote>「<span class="explain" title="ま">真</span>っ<span class="explain" title="くろ">黒</span>なカラスです。マリオたちが<span class="explain" title="ちか">近</span>づく<span class="explain" title="まえ">前</span>に、<span class="explain" title="はや">早</span>めにやっつけておきましょう。」 (''They are raven crows. Before Mario's group proceeds, let us quickly defeat them.'') - pg. 10.</blockquote> | ||
It doesn't note their relation to the original game's Pidgits, but given that they just stand there it can be presumed they're similarly flightless. On the other hand, character and object sprites are otherwise larger in ''Mario & Wario'' and the ''Super Show'' has Pidgits capable of flying on their own, so that and the usual connotation of "junior" can deem them little/baby Pidgits. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:14, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | It doesn't note their relation to the original game's Pidgits, but given that they just stand there it can be presumed they're similarly flightless. On the other hand, character and object sprites are otherwise larger in ''Mario & Wario'' and the ''Super Show'' has Pidgits capable of flying on their own, so that and the usual connotation of "junior" can deem them little/baby Pidgits. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:14, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | ||
:It would be limited to ''Mario & Wario'' info, as anything else would be speculation. [[User:Binarystep|Binarystep]] ([[User talk:Binarystep|talk]]) 18:56, 2 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
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Image verification.[edit]
First off, the featured image. I'm guessing it's from Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, but I don't recall there being much enemy art, just for the major characters. Second, the old-style image claiming to be from Mario & Wario... Why include the image and say it's from that game if there's no mention of the game otherwise? It also looks like the SMB2/DDP Pidgit, but the artwork for that Pidgit had yellow features instead of red and didn't show it without its carpet. LinkTheLefty 13:34, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
Split Dodorigesu Jr. from Pidgit[edit]
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SPLIT 4-0
Different Japanese name and acts differently, it's basically the Fire Snake/Bound Fire issue all over again.
Proposer: Binarystep (talk)
Deadline: April 14, 2015, 23:59 GMT
Support[edit]
- Binarystep (talk) Clearly not the same enemy.
- Mario (talk) It's a variation that varies enough for it to be split. Unless we're presented with evidence otherwise, I support the split.
- Stonehill (talk) Yep, they're two different enemies.
- Burningdragon25 (talk) Different enemies indeed so, that is a split!
Oppose[edit]
Comments[edit]
Would Dodorigesu Jr. be limited to Mario & Wario information, or would they be considered Pidgits without magic carpets? The sprites seem to be nigh-identical (like Ninjis in SMW) and the official SMB2/DDP Pidgit profile states that Wart gave them their magic carpets, so that may imply the latter. The Mario & Wario manual doesn't answer this question directly, and I'll provide a quote and translation to show that:
「真っ黒なカラスです。マリオたちが近づく前に、早めにやっつけておきましょう。」 (They are raven crows. Before Mario's group proceeds, let us quickly defeat them.) - pg. 10.
It doesn't note their relation to the original game's Pidgits, but given that they just stand there it can be presumed they're similarly flightless. On the other hand, character and object sprites are otherwise larger in Mario & Wario and the Super Show has Pidgits capable of flying on their own, so that and the usual connotation of "junior" can deem them little/baby Pidgits. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:14, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
- It would be limited to Mario & Wario info, as anything else would be speculation. Binarystep (talk) 18:56, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
