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== Petea? ==
== Petea? ==


Why is Petey Piranha called Petea?[[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 12:23, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
Why is Petey Piranha called Petea?[[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 12:23, 25 September 2016 (EDT)


:Probably to make a tea joke, given the fact that he's found in a teapot. Regardless, that's what he's called in this game so that's what we list. {{User:Tails777/sig}}12:29, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
:Probably to make a tea joke, given the fact that he's found in a teapot. Regardless, that's what he's called in this game so that's what we list. {{User:Tails777/sig}}12:29, 25 September 2016 (EDT)


::That's very odd. I doubt they'd change the name of a major recurring character like that. It could easily be a typo. I don't know. I guess we'll see when the game comes out.[[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 12:44, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
::That's very odd. I doubt they'd change the name of a major recurring character like that. It could easily be a typo. I don't know. I guess we'll see when the game comes out.[[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 12:44, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
:::What you are seeing is the final game. Petea is different from Petey, as there is a "tail" from the tea envelope that Petey doesn't have. It's probably a new character or a variation of Petey. If the museum has bios we will know the proper definition, but it's surely not exactly like Petey--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:11, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
:::What you are seeing is the final game. Petea is different from Petey, as there is a "tail" from the tea envelope that Petey doesn't have. It's probably a new character or a variation of Petey. If the museum has bios we will know the proper definition, but it's surely not exactly like Petey--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:11, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Two questions. 1) Could you show me a picture so I can see the differences and 2) Should we the remove the Color Splash section on Petey's article until we confirm whether or not it's a new character?[[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:10, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Two questions. 1) Could you show me a picture so I can see the differences and 2) Should we the remove the Color Splash section on Petey's article until we confirm whether or not it's a new character?[[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:10, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::Forget the first question. I saw a picture.[[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:11, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::Forget the first question. I saw a picture.[[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:11, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::It might be wise to remove it from Petey's page, until we get confirmation from the game that he's actually Petey Piranha and not a related character. If a section has already been made about him, creating a new page with the content of the section might be a good idea. I'm not a part of the wiki's staff, though, so I'd wait an opinion from one of them.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:35, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::It might be wise to remove it from Petey's page, until we get confirmation from the game that he's actually Petey Piranha and not a related character. If a section has already been made about him, creating a new page with the content of the section might be a good idea. I'm not a part of the wiki's staff, though, so I'd wait an opinion from one of them.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:35, 25 September 2016 (EDT)


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:In Plum Park, https://youtu.be/QcJNTANspYo?t=3h59m58s
:In Plum Park, https://youtu.be/QcJNTANspYo?t=3h59m58s
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== Full Story? ==
== Full Story? ==
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== Koopas = Reptiles ==
== Koopas = Reptiles ==
{{Talk}}
OK, an edit war is beginning. It has to do with the similarities sections. The RPG Gamer thinks that we should mention that the third boss is a reptile (Ludwig). I don't think that warrants a mention. For one thing, there is no complete confirmation that Koopas are reptiles, no matter how obvious it is. For another thing, every other main boss is a reptile, so it's not very notable that Ludwig is too. It's just too vague. What does everyone else think?<br>
OK, an edit war is beginning. It has to do with the similarities sections. The RPG Gamer thinks that we should mention that the third boss is a reptile (Ludwig). I don't think that warrants a mention. For one thing, there is no complete confirmation that Koopas are reptiles, no matter how obvious it is. For another thing, every other main boss is a reptile, so it's not very notable that Ludwig is too. It's just too vague. What does everyone else think?<br>
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::::That's why Mister Wu thought it'd be best to move the discussion here so others can give their input.--{{User:Eldritchdraaks/sig}} 11:41, 13 December 2016 (EST)
::::That's why Mister Wu thought it'd be best to move the discussion here so others can give their input.--{{User:Eldritchdraaks/sig}} 11:41, 13 December 2016 (EST)
:::::I am just suggesting you make a compromise if this idea doesn't work out. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 11:43, 13 December 2016 (EST)
:::::I am just suggesting you make a compromise if this idea doesn't work out. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 11:43, 13 December 2016 (EST)
::::::The idea has just been implemented the way you suggest, you can see the "R" letter near the "Cards" word stating that the Cards are obtained in a Roshambo Temple instead of being directly dropped by the enemy (in which case a "D" is used). I also added the meaning of the letters both through the span and through the explanation at the top of the bestiary.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:28, 13 December 2016 (EST)
:::::::Just returning to this matter and I stand firm in my opinion; The Koopaling and Kamek cards should not be included on the bestiary because they are unrelated to the fight itself. The cards are not dropped by the enemy, and are instead won in a separate mini-game completely unrelated to the battle with the bosses. In the bestiary, ALL of the information within directly relates to the enemy during battle and the cards and paint they drop. Since as far as I can tell the coins dropped can't really be tracked, or it's just the same for all enemies (not sure), they are left out for now. Enemies such as Soggy Guy, Poison Blooper, Piranha Plant, Black Shy Guy, the Whistle Snifits, all the small/mega enemies and gangs, stacks, wheels, accordians, etc. all drop different cards than what they are, so if we want to include the Kamek and Koopaling cards, we'd have to remove the cards those other enemies drop, and then add the Black Bowser's Castle card to Black Bowser because ''"Hey, guess what! After You beat Black Bowser, you get that card! Well technically you beat him, escape the castle, then Huey turns the castle into a card and its not even directly won by beating Bowser, but who cares!"'' That was sarcasm btw. My point is clear: IF THE CARD IS NOT DROPPED BY THE ENEMY, IT DOES NOT BELONG ON THE BESTIARY. Information on obtaining every card is found on the [[Battle Card (Paper Mario: Color Splash)|Battle Cards]] page.--{{User:Eldritchdraaks/sig}} 14:04, 26 December 2016 (EST)
::::::::I brought this topic [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=29237.msg1895357#msg1895357 on the forum], and there too we agree on leaving the cards there (and we also want to congratulate with you for the awesome work on the bestiary, by the way). A good idea on how to proceed would also be adding a link to the respective [[Battle Card (Paper Mario: Color Splash)|Battle Card]]s on the images. However, there is a very important point you have about the dropped items: enemies don't only drop Enemy Cards, Coins, paint and hammer scraps, but also Basic Battle Cards; in the [[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]] code [https://supermariofiles.wordpress.com/2016/04/11/paper-mario-ttyd-stats-the-sequel/ there are indeed stats and tables about these kinds of items] (with the obvious difference due to the items obtainable in that game), and they would be more than welcome in the Color Splash bestiary as well. Therefore, if we will manage to obtain these stats and tables from in-game data, if an enemy drops an unrelated enemy card, we might list it among the dropped cards instead, leaving only the actual enemy cards of the enemies in the current slots.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 09:39, 28 December 2016 (EST)
==Fire Bro 8-Stack==
Does anyone know where you can find Fire Bro 8-Stacks, or if they even exist, in the game? I have been trying to find out for Eldritchdraaks so that he can add them to his [[Paper Mario: Color Splash bestiary|bestiary]], but I cannot find any evidence to where they are found. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 21:03, 9 February 2017 (EST)
== Wii U link missing ==
In the first paragraph, it states that it's the 20th and final game for the Wii U, but it doesn't link to the [[Wii U]] page. [[User:Eleven23|Eleven23]] ([[User talk:Eleven23|talk]]) 01:16, March 23, 2019 (EDT)
:It's already linked earlier in the same paragraph, so it [[MarioWiki:Manual of Style#Linking, linking, linking!|doesn't need to be linked again]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:50, March 23, 2019 (EDT)
== List of colorless spots ==
Should we make a list of colorless spots in the game? I think that could help completionists; since they're a 100% completion objective, and we have pages like [[List of beanholes in Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time]]. They could go on the level articles, or be a separate list page, or both. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 00:00, June 27, 2019 (EDT)
:If you can make it, why not. It can be useful.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:09, June 27, 2019 (EDT)
::Okay, I'll try. I'll be replaying ''Color Splash'' anyways to add info and screenshots to a lot of the "under construction" articles, and I'll fill out the list along the way. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 00:36, June 29, 2019 (EDT)
:::Should the screenshots depict the spots themselves or Mario coloring them in? The former might make it unclear as to which spot the image is referring to (especially since there can be multiple on screen at once), and Mario coloring them in would make it more clear, but also obscure the spot itself. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 21:47, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
::::The spots gets bright before being colored, that might help you, if you can take a screnshot of that moment.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:35, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
:::::I'm glad to announce that this project is finally done: [[Colorless spot|List of colorless spots in Paper Mario: Color Splash]]. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 01:20, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
== Parallel World ==
I noticed that the [[Parallel World (Mechanic)]] Parallel World does not have its own page despite appearing in multiple levels and being a pretty integral mechanic at that. I am aware of the currently existing page called Parallel World used for the official Mario Maker level, I'm looking at disambiguation so I don't mess things up if I make a new page. Are there any problems with making this new wiki page? --[[User:Zaku|Zaku]] ([[User talk:Zaku|talk]]) 19:02, March 7, 2022 (EST)
:It's consistently called "parallel world" in lowercase, so I think [[parallel world]] as an article would work. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 20:37, March 7, 2022 (EST)
::Nice, and I see that distinction now. Does there need to be a disambiguation page for a only 2 similar titles? --[[User:Zaku|Zaku]] ([[User talk:Zaku|talk]]) 14:29, March 14, 2022 (EDT)
:::No, in that case [[Template:About]] is used. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:56, March 14, 2022 (EDT)
== External Links ==
I was checking the Official pages for this game using the external links, and I noticed that the one listed for the Official American Website redirects to a page about ordering Paper Mario: the Origami King. Should it be edited/removed? does the original site still exist under different url? {{User:Zaku/sig}} 20:49, March 24, 2022
:Fixed. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 21:05, March 24, 2022 (EDT)
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