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== Split Dragon (Yoshi Island) and Dragon (Species) == | == Split Dragon (Yoshi Island) and Dragon (Species) == | ||
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Ok, I don't know how to tell this, but I think that we messed this article with something official and not official in my opinion. I mean, we have '''Dragon''' seen in yoshi island, and I assume that is the official name for it, but I find that all the "dragons" seen in the Marioverse are called '''Dragons''' as well and now the article has been disorganized by adding this consideration. I propose to split the Dragon seen in the yoshi series and the dragons as a species (or a therm in general) seen in the Marioverse because I don't see if this name refers both those seen in the yoshi series and all in the mario world. Got it? | Ok, I don't know how to tell this, but I think that we messed this article with something official and not official in my opinion. I mean, we have '''Dragon''' seen in yoshi island, and I assume that is the official name for it, but I find that all the "dragons" seen in the Marioverse are called '''Dragons''' as well and now the article has been disorganized by adding this consideration. I propose to split the Dragon seen in the yoshi series and the dragons as a species (or a therm in general) seen in the Marioverse because I don't see if this name refers both those seen in the yoshi series and all in the mario world. Got it? | ||
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==Deletion?== | ==Deletion?== | ||
Why is this being deleted? {{user:Mario jc/sig}} | Why is this being deleted? {{user:Mario jc/sig}} | ||
:Can't you wait five minutes for me to say my reason? Anyhow, onto to my reason. This article squishes TONS of different dragons into one article, despite none of then having any relation other than being dragons. Heck, I doubt the Mario series ever called ''any'' of them dragons, so this is a speculative article. So, I say this should be deleted. {{User:Reversinator/sig}} | :Can't you wait five minutes for me to say my reason? Anyhow, onto to my reason. This article squishes TONS of different dragons into one article, despite none of then having any relation other than being dragons. Heck, I doubt the Mario series ever called ''any'' of them dragons, so this is a speculative article. So, I say this should be deleted. {{User:Reversinator/sig}} | ||
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==Keep, Delete, or Trim the Article== | ==Keep, Delete, or Trim the Article== | ||
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This has been discussed in detail up above, and more briefly over [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=18896.0 on the forums], so go read the other comments first. There are really three major stances that one could take here: Completely deleting the article from the wiki, stripping the article of all the info excluding the Chinese dragon from ''The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3'' and potentially the dragon from ''Donkey Kong Jungle Beat'', as suggested by Walkazo, or just leaving the article as it is. I'm all for the option that Walkazo suggested, considering that while all the other dragons have articles that give much more information on their respective dragons, the ''TAoSMB3'' and ''DKJB'' dragons don't actually have articles elsewhere, though due to the major visual difference between the two of them, the dragon from Jungle Beat could be split into its own article with a conjectural name. | This has been discussed in detail up above, and more briefly over [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=18896.0 on the forums], so go read the other comments first. There are really three major stances that one could take here: Completely deleting the article from the wiki, stripping the article of all the info excluding the Chinese dragon from ''The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3'' and potentially the dragon from ''Donkey Kong Jungle Beat'', as suggested by Walkazo, or just leaving the article as it is. I'm all for the option that Walkazo suggested, considering that while all the other dragons have articles that give much more information on their respective dragons, the ''TAoSMB3'' and ''DKJB'' dragons don't actually have articles elsewhere, though due to the major visual difference between the two of them, the dragon from Jungle Beat could be split into its own article with a conjectural name. | ||
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#{{User|Yoshi K}} Per all. | #{{User|Yoshi K}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|Bop1996}} Per Walkazo. | #{{User|Bop1996}} Per Walkazo. | ||
#{{User|Vommack}} Per Walkazo and Zero. | |||
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per Walkazo. | |||
===Leave Article as it is=== | ===Leave Article as it is=== | ||
===Comments=== | |||
==This article is rather pathetic in its current state== | |||
So is it really worth keeping? It has a few-second-long appearance from a cartoon and then a main article, and an infobox with a ''Wario's Woods'' character picture and some species and characters listed. I don't see much purpose, as the only generic appearance (which was actually the [[Great Wall of China]]) wasn't really enough to warrant its own article, it would appear. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:07, 2 February 2018 (EST) | |||
:Unlike the [[Talk:Giraffe|giraffe]] and [[Talk:Elephant|elephant]], the dragon has at least ''some'' significance to the story, but whether that level of significance still warrants its own article, I'm not sure myself. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:12, 11 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Adding category == | |||
Should I add a ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' category? [[File:NightWing.png|25px]][[User:Starclimber the NightWing|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#000000">Starclimber the NightWing</span>]]''' ('''[[User talk:Starclimber the NightWing|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#000000">message</span>]]''') 22:31, 16 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
:The dragons in the game ([[Hooktail]], [[Bonetail]] and [[Gloomtail]]) already have categories, so that's not necessary. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:35, 16 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Banish this article to the fiery depths == | |||
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{{ProposalOutcome|passed|13-0|delete}} | |||
Just when I thought <span class="plainlinks">[https://web.archive.org/web/20170203193921/mariowiki.com/Chicken Chicken]</span> and <span class="plainlinks">[https://web.archive.org/web/20160408145408/http://www.mariowiki.com/Elephant Elephant] were bad enough, I then realize that this pathetic excuse of an article is an ''even worse'' violation of the [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subjects policy]]. | |||
''Lord of the Rings'' joke aside, this page is a total mess. To start, we already ''have'' [[:Category:Dragons|a relevant category]] for the article's subject (à la "category in article form"). Additionally, the way this article is structured makes no sense. The infobox picture is of [[Drago]], who already has his own article. Furthermore, the only listed appearance in the article is in ''[[The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' episode "[[7 Continents for 7 Koopas]]", where it is treated as more of a plot device than an actual character, and is better off mentioned in the article's plot summary (where it is already mentioned). And then there's trivia, which mentions some needless information about [[Super Dragon]], and other than the inter-language section...that's about it, really. | |||
Basically, I propose we delete this article, as well as [[Gallery:Dragon|its corresponding gallery]], and then move [[Dragon (Yoshi's Story)|Dragon (''Yoshi's Story'')]] over here. Yes, this really needs to go. | |||
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Toadette the Achiever}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline:''' July 22, 2020, 23:59 GMT | |||
===Banish it to the ''n''th dimension=== | |||
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Let's rid ourselves of this ludicrous article that is a medieval holdout of its fallen comrades. Clearly unworthy of a victory of any kind. | |||
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Yeah, this isn't worth having an article. The gallery especially shows how painfully generic this article is. I'm surprised it's still around to be honest. | |||
#{{User|Keyblade Master}} I never knew this article existed, and it's way smaller than I thought it would be. And the whole thing is pretty much redundant too. | |||
#{{User|DarkNight}} Per preposal. | |||
#{{User|Duckfan77}} Per all. | |||
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per proposal. | |||
#{{User|Mister Wu}} Better to just use the category and then just have a page for each dragon, <s>including Yoshi</s> | |||
#{{User|Alex95}} - Nothing here worth keeping. Per all. | |||
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per everyone. | |||
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per myself above, this article is a pathetic embarrassment and I've wanted it gone for a while now. | |||
#{{User|BMfan08}} Just looking at the article makes me agree that some hammers need to be dropped. Per all. | |||
#{{user|TheDarkStar}} - per all | |||
#{{user|MarioManiac1981}} Per all. Vanquish this fruitless article! | |||
===Release it=== | |||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||