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Not to mention the idea- which is often debated- as to whether or not characters die...{{unsigned|Ckoune}} | Not to mention the idea- which is often debated- as to whether or not characters die...{{unsigned|Ckoune}} | ||
: Well kill is used in the sense of the death of a character, while destroyed is more towards an object such as the Grobot. You could replace it with died which would be better. {{unsigned| | : Well kill is used in the sense of the death of a character, while destroyed is more towards an object such as the Grobot. You could replace it with died which would be better. {{unsigned|Cubeguy}} | ||
I completely agree, but the problem is that it isn't suited to the Mario universe, as I've never come across the word "kill" or "death" (and if so, not that often) when playing any Mario game. Anyway, I think it's fine the way it is now. | I completely agree, but the problem is that it isn't suited to the Mario universe, as I've never come across the word "kill" or "death" (and if so, not that often) when playing any Mario game. Anyway, I think it's fine the way it is now. | ||
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I agree with Cubeguy, plus the game is rated E10+ not E2-. | I agree with Cubeguy, plus the game is rated E10+ not E2-. | ||
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They use the words "kill", "dead", and even "murder" in ''Paper Mario'' when we think Mayor Penguin is dead (even though he really isn't). Antasma is dead, however you want to say it, but you can say "destroy" instead if you want (and they do say "destroy" when talking about killing Count Bleck). [[User:Ghostkaiba297|Ghostkaiba297]] ([[User talk:Ghostkaiba297|talk]]) 23:12, 27 November 2013 (EST) | |||
As to the debate of whether characters die, the only characters who seem to die but then return are in the Koopa Troop, like Bowser, the Koopalings, Petey Piranha, King Boo, etc. And New Super Mario Bros. establishes they can revive each other as Bowser Jr. does to Bowser onscreen after Mario ''kills'' him (reduced to a skeleton in the lava). The only exception is Tatanga, who seems to explode along with his ship, but it could be he either used a device on his ship (which is most powerful) to teleport off, or escaped in an escape pod blocked by a flash of light from the explosion or otherwise invisible, although it's pretty clear they intended to kill him there (as players would be dissatisfied to see him escape) but decided to bring him back as Wario's minion to show that he was working for him as a distraction. [[User:Ghostkaiba297|Ghostkaiba297]] ([[User talk:Ghostkaiba297|talk]]) 23:23, 27 November 2013 (EST) | |||
:First off, Ghost Kaiba Tatanga returns in the second Super Mario Land as a boss (im not sure if you know that), Second almost all of the mario games are non-linear on a timeline besides this series, Super Mario Galaxy and any others you guys can work out. Third, deaths of characters is usually discussed about the next upcoming game and not a real important issue here. Theres no real difference between died and destroy, i just suggested that to try and get this discussion over with. Fourth, i'll remind you this is not a forum and this sort of discussion is needed to be done on a forum, not here. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]] | |||
::First off, I've beaten Tatanga numerous times in Super Mario Land 2, his return in that game was what I was explicitly referring to when I said "''decided to bring him back as Wario's minion''". When I said "exception" I meant he was the only one who seems to die and then returns ''who is not in the Koopa Troop'', sorry if I didn't speak clearly enough. Second, to address your fourth point, this was only in response to the first comment in response to the debate over whether characters die in the Mario games, which is why we can say on here that Antasma and other villains are "dead". [[User:Ghostkaiba297|Ghostkaiba297]] ([[User talk:Ghostkaiba297|talk]]) 00:15, 3 April 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Antasma backstory == | == Antasma backstory == | ||
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=38067179 {{unsigned| | http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=38067179 {{unsigned|69.117.40.240}} | ||
:ummmmmmmmmmmmmm why? what do you want us to do? this isn't official game artwork and antasma always has that smile. So, yeah, why are you showing us this exactly. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]] | :ummmmmmmmmmmmmm why? what do you want us to do? this isn't official game artwork and antasma always has that smile. So, yeah, why are you showing us this exactly. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]] | ||
Sorry, meant better backstory. {{unsigned| | Sorry, meant better backstory. {{unsigned|69.117.40.240}} | ||
:Oh, well fan-made stuff is not included in the wiki articles, sorry. Unless it came from the game itself or the developers it won't be included. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]] | :Oh, well fan-made stuff is not included in the wiki articles, sorry. Unless it came from the game itself or the developers it won't be included. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]] | ||
==Cackletta mispelling== | |||
FYI, Cackletta has been misspelled "Cakletta" in the section referring to Antasma's abilities. | |||
We wouldn't want to imitate the same mistake that Fawful made in Superstar Saga, now, would we? Cheers.{{unsigned|Ckoune}} | |||
==Reason for removal of final antasma battle trivia== | |||
i would just like to point out this is in no way trivia or a game developers error. Luigi must be asleep to become dreamy Luigi thus aiding mario, the only way Luigi is able to connect to Antasmas dream portal is by sleeping next to said portal, which makes the area there in a dream point allowing Luigi connection and an ease of access for falling asleep. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]] | |||
== Romanization == | |||
Antasma's Japanese name アックームIs romanized as Akkūmu and not Akkumu like it currently says. ク=u but クー=ū. | |||
== French NOA name == | |||
The French NOA name is Phobieux. It can be seen on the website. | |||
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==Possesing Brouque Monsuir?? MMMM....no== | |||
I gave this quite some thought and belive that this statement is false. First Brouque Monsuir apologizes for his behaviour during his "act" to the bros. Secondly, Antasma is unable to actually control anyone since he is imprisoned and if even so Brouqe is awake during the intro making this an impossible task for Antasma. So to some up no he is not possesing Brouqe. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]] <big>BOO!! ^w^</big> | |||
== Battle ideas == | |||
I am at Battle Medley, currently at level 55+. (Normal Mode). | |||
I kept losing, so I chose an idea. | |||
Keep two badge effects, one temporarily increases your pow, and the other temporarily decreases the enemy's def, dealing more damage to Antasma X. | |||
Use the Luiginary Wall to also attack Antasmunchie X's. | |||
--[[User:Mario091|Mario091]] ([[User talk:Mario091|talk]]) 23:53, 12 December 2014 (EST) | |||
What does this have to do with the page? - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]] | |||
== Rewriting == | |||
I don't understand what part of this article that needs rewriting. | |||
[[File:PowerKamekSig.jpg|100px|link=User:PowerKamek]] | |||
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<span style="color:red;font-family:monospace">Kamek Power!</span> 23:57, 10 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Read the link on the template. It's writing like a flowery narrative rather than straight to the point. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 01:00, 11 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Oh, I see. Thank you![[File:PowerKamekSig.jpg|100px|link=User:PowerKamek]] | |||
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<span style="color:red;font-family:monospace">Kamek Power!</span> 01:19, 11 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Battle glitch == | |||
I found a glitch in his battle, and have a video to show the results (I didn't get the glitch itself because I didn't expect it). Before I add the glitch, should I upload the video to mariowiki or YouTube? Also, where in the article should it go (maybe just trivia)? [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 16:06, May 18, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:I think that information would be better suited to [[List of Mario & Luigi: Dream Team glitches]] if you can get proof of the glitch in action. Do you know what caused the glitch? --{{User:Fawfulthegreat64/sig}} 16:11, May 18, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::Yeah I can remember very clearly. The glitch is the fight getting stuck on Marios death; Luigi had been freed from a munchie during a counterattack, then Mario died in the same attack. Both bros layed on the ground and the game couldn't decide whether to end the fight or put Luigi in Mario. I don't have a video of the glitch itself, but of the results. Is that enough or should I recreate it? [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 18:14, May 18, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== HP for the first battle == | |||
The HP for the first battle can actually be either 4 (if you jump with two jumps both times), 3 (if you jump with two jumps on one of the two turns and jump with one jump on the other turn), or 2 (if you jump with one jump both times). Thank You! | |||
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== Typos == | |||
The profiles and statistics section instead spells it statictics, and the trivia section spells erroneously as errounesly. Can someone who can edit this page please fix this? | |||
{{unsigned|Shaymiestar}} | |||
== Antasma's English Name Meaning == | |||
Antasma's name seems less like a combination of "Anti" and "Fantasm" and more like a combination of "Antagonist" and "Miasma". | |||
Reason I say this is because "Anti" and "Fantasm" are both a bit esoteric to suit Antasma in any way. "Anti" simply means "the opposite of", and "fantasm" means "a product of fantasy". It's frequently used to refer to ghostly beings but in truth, it's more of a blanket term for any purely fictional entity. | |||
Whereas "Antagonist" strictly refers to the villain, or the main opposition to the hero, or protagonist of the story. And "Miasma" refers to a cloud of unpleasant odor or smoke, which matches with Antasma's smoke-like aura. | |||
{{unsigned|ImpSassy}} | |||
:Personally, the name always reminded me of the Portuguese word "fantasma", which means "ghost", but I guess he's not exactly a ghost, and native English speakers probably don't have that association. Still feels more fitting than "miasma" though. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 14:21, December 15, 2023 (EST) | |||
::I'd always assumed "phantasm/phantasma" or related word, which is a moderately well-known variant of "phantom" (and cognate to "fantasma"). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:41, December 15, 2023 (EST) | |||