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=== Userbox Page === | |||
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">TRIM DOWN USERBOX PAGE 11-8-0</span> | |||
Recently, I stopped by the userbox page and found it to be absolutly unacceptable. Users add new userboxes at will, and often don't care for things such as, I dunno, GRAMMAR? So, I'm prposing that we lock up the Userbox page or at least trim it down. If you want to make a new userbox so badly, don't place it on the main page. | |||
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Phailure}} <br> | |||
'''Deadline''': October 15, 2008, 17:00 | |||
====Lock the page==== | |||
====Don't lock==== | |||
#{{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}} Per myself. Anyways why lock just because if some userboxes seem useless. There just for user whom want them. You don't have to use the new ones that just pop up. The userboxes page is for every user to post a userbox (as long as there aproperate.) | |||
#{{User|Palkia47}} - Per Stumpers' original vote. Userboxes are epic, and someone may want to create their own. | |||
#{{User|M&SG}} - As long as the userbox is appropriate, I don't see the problem. Besides, even if that article is locked, we'll still be able to make our own personal userboxes for our user page. | |||
#{{User|Moonshine}} - I really see userboxes as an eyesore, nor would I ever use them. However, I do see where they may be appealing to others. Quite simply, the fact that they're constantly being used entirely makes up for the fact that they're cheesy and an eyesore. | |||
#{{User|Walkazo}} - More will get done if dedicated Users of all ranks can hack away at the garbage (as opposed to just the Sysops, who have more important things to do than this inconsequential community fluff). | |||
#{{User|Timn}} - As long as the grammor improves,anyways i make tons of userboxes. | |||
#{{User|Greenguy22}} - First, Timn, if you want better grammer in the userbox page, you should spell it right. Next, the userbox page is alright, but we should delete duplicates. The ones we delete do matter though. If one is a more complicated and desired one, the one that is less complicated and desired. Get the picture? | |||
#{{User|Supermariofan14}} - A dreadful idea. I can hardly figure how to do a userbox and I'm trying to put some in my page. If the page is locked, I would be unable to access it and, therefore, I would have to keep my personal page as simple as it is right now. I suggest that it is improved. | |||
REMOVED VOTE: {{User|Stumpers}} - <s>Right now I'm busy enough operating the rest of the Wiki, but maybe the other sysops aren't. Regardless, I have to say, userboxes themselves are useless, so I don't see why a useless userbox would be a problem. Plus, what are your criteria for determining whether a userbox is useless or useful?</s> Since other sysops are cool with trimming the page down, I no longer object. However, I'm keeping this vote here for everyone who "per'd" me. | |||
====Trim down==== | |||
#{{User|Phailure}} Per what I said. | |||
#{{user|tanokki}} -Both sides have a good point we should have criteria for userboxes {ie:This user likes luigi. '''OK'''. This user is friends with [insert username here]. '''NO'''} It shouldn't be that hard delete some keep others and we really need to trim down the userbox section other [I had to remove my own cose the page had trouble loading]. | |||
#{{User|Stooben Rooben}} - That page has been chaotic for quite a few months now. Many of the userboxes on there aren't needed, as they are simply edited from other similar userboxes. Also, the "This user is friends with __" have absolutely no reason to be on there; these userboxes, if created, should be created only for users to give to their friends. (Just like I used to do.) The page takes ridiculously long to load due to the mass amounts of images and coding on it as well. It's a '''MarioWiki''' page, not a '''User''' page. It's a fine page for referring to how to make basic userboxes, (ex: This user is an advanced gamer), etcetera. These userboxes that say, "this user's favorite character is Mametchi/Luigi/Francis/whatever" are entirely unnecessary – there only needs to be one userbox for that "genre" of userboxes – '''This user's favorite character is ___'''. The userbox can be edited from there to the user's liking. Take my userbox tower for example: Most of the userboxes on there were created/edited by me, but I don't recall ever putting them in the [[MarioWiki:Userbox|userbox]] page. | |||
#{{User|Phoenix Rider}} - This is definitely something that needs to be done. As Stooben said, '''one''' genre of userboxes that can be customized to the user's liking. Specific, one person/object/etc. userboxes should not be put of there. | |||
#{{User|Blitzwing}} - Per Stooben. Took the words right out of my mouth. | |||
#{{User|Stumpers}} - I'm switching sides to back Rooben... that's the second time this week. Per Stoob. | |||
#{{User|Super-Yoshi}} - Per St00by. | |||
#{{User|Shrikeswind}} - Per all. Strange as it may be that I don't even have a page FOR userboxes yet I have an opinion, really, failure at grammar and over-complication bother me. That, and I have actually been turned off of making mine based on how many userboxes there are. | |||
#{{User|Mateus 23}} - Per Stooben. I think users can create their own userboxes, but it isn't necessary to put them in the userbox page. | |||
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all. Besides, altering existing Userboxes on one's specific User Page is fairly easy, so if someone ''really'' wants to say something unique, they still can; while those of us with cruddy computers can still see the general boxes without fear of freezing. | |||
#{{User|iggykoopa}} - Per all | |||
====Comments==== | |||
Okay, I take that back. But if you had stopped by before I cleaned it up, you'd see how atrocious it's become. {{User|Phailure}} | |||
:Rather than locking the page, what about just eliminating all of the excess userboxes? Take [[MarioWiki:Userbox#Characters|this]], [[MarioWiki:Userbox#Specific Games (A-Z)|this]], and [[MarioWiki:Userbox#Other|this]] for examples: they could easily be trimmed down to basic userboxes that could be edited to a user's liking. Also, if there was a "Trim Down" option on this proposal, I'd vote for it. {{User|Stooben Rooben}} | |||
::Same here. The Sysops have enough things to do without having to worry about something as frivolous as Userboxes. Simply let the Users who care about Userboxes keep them tidy, and be done with it. - {{User|Walkazo}} | |||
:::But that's the whole point. The page '''isn't''' kept tidy. It overloads the bandwidth with all the pictures and code, and most are used by maybe one or two people: the people that made them and decided to stick them on there. I have plenty of userboxes that I created myself without needing to put it on the Userbox page. {{User|Phoenix Rider}} | |||
::::Walkazo: You've conivinced my to change my mind. Now that I think about it, sysops DO have better things to do :l Phoenix Rider: Ditto. Palkia47:True, but they still don't need to clog up the page.{{User|Phailure}} | |||
:::::Since Stumpers switched his vote, I have a question about those who said "Per Stumpers". Since Grapes and Palkia have additional reasoning to their votes aside from "Per Stumpers", would their votes still be valid? With that being said, would Super-Yoshi's vote be the only invalid one? {{User|Stooben Rooben}} | |||
::::Good question. I assume that we can now take "Per Stumpers" to be "Per what Stumpers' original vote said." {{User|Stumpers}} | |||
:::::Sounds good. {{User|Stooben Rooben}} | |||
::::::Done. {{User|Phailure}} | |||
:::::::Glad I looked at the comments before editing. I was going to point out that anyone who was 'per'ing a now nonexistent vote wouldn't be counted if said vote still read as such when the proposal closed. -- {{User|Ghost Jam}} | |||
When I feel like making a new Userbox, I just 'steal' one from another User page, or make a new one. I never use that Userbox page, it seems kinda pointless. Like a blunt arrow. {{User|Dom}} | |||
:Ditto. {{User|Phailure}} | |||
Okay, first there's voting on whether or not is should be locked, and then there's voting to trim it down (but no header to vote for leaving it the way it is?). No one's voted on both issues yet, but can we? This is more like two proposals in one, which is a bit... screwy. - {{User|Walkazo}} | |||
:I think since we were talking about the sysops being busy, we're not going to want to lock it to all but the sysops... but maybe a new user block would work. {{User|Stumpers}} | |||
::Good idea. And I could change the voting choices to "Don't change it" and "Trim it down". {{User|Phailure}} | |||
::: Triming down sound better. (Because some computer/Laptops can freeze if there too much kilo bytes.) Plus there is some stupid userboxes like, This User thinks that Luigi shouldn't be called Mama Luigi. {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}} | |||
::::Protecting it from the new Users and their userbox-fever is definitely a good plan, as are cutting out some of the more superfluous ones and adding that extra header for the people who disagree. - {{User|Walkazo}} | |||
'''Phailure''': Just swapping "Don't Lock" for "Don't Change Anything" isn't right: those votes are now misplaced and should have been removed like mine. - {{User|Walkazo}} | |||
''SuperMarioFan14 You'll be still able to ascess the Userbox page. Lock the page only due one thing and thats make the page unable to be edited. {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}} | |||
:Speaking of your vote, Walkazo, you currently have two votes. Be sure to delete the old one. (or move it as I did my old vote if someone per'd you) {{User|Stumpers}} | |||
::Right now I'm voting once on the locking issue, and once on the trimming issue; as I said before, this proposal is messed-up. If it isn't going to be about locking or not locking anymore, but about trimming and leaving it as it is, the sections pertaining to locking and all the corresponding votes should all be deleted. But then the people would need to vote again, and time is running out before the deadline (which brings to mind an [[MarioWiki_talk:Proposals#More Rules|older discussion]] about changing proposals). - {{User|Walkazo}} | |||
:::Yeah, that was my mistake, I wasn't really thinking about the votes needing to be recounted. {{User|Phailure}} | |||
::::Um, this passed three days ago. Why is nobody archiving it? {{User|Palkia47}} | |||
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