Talk:Spiny

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::And yet, "spiders" and "Spiny Shells" being perceived as errors is subjective and unencyclopedic. A fan liberty. People in this proposal are using that line of thinking to argue against the highest-priority official sources that exist for these works, [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/60#Remove_.22Koopa.22_and_other_name_particles_from_Koopaling_article_titles|but that is par for the course on Super Mario Wiki]]. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 16:59, January 4, 2024 (EST)

:::If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has consistently been established by reliable sources as being, in fact, a duck, then there's nothing subjective or unencyclopedic about continuing to call it a duck just because a less reliable source mistakenly called it a goose on a certain occasion. I'm all for correcting mistakes ''if'' the greater context of material from the franchise as a whole makes it clear that it actually is a mistake. That's all I have to say on the matter. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:27, January 4, 2024 (EST)

::::"I'm all for correcting mistakes ''if'' the greater context of material from the franchise as a whole makes it clear that it actually is a mistake." '''It doesn't.''' Name changes can happen on a whim and can even be isolated cases. That does not make them errors. The movie doesn't call them anything, but there are 2 (two) different social media posts, both published 2 weeks apart and across multiple sites, that use that name. I'm really sorry, man, but your conviction that it's an error is quite simply unfounded. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:35, January 4, 2024 (EST)

::::"I'm all for correcting mistakes ''if'' the greater context of material from the franchise as a whole makes it clear that it actually is a mistake." '''It doesn't.''' [[Piranha Plant#Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door|Name changes can happen on a whim and can even be isolated cases.]] That does not make them errors. The movie doesn't call them anything, but there are 2 (two) different social media posts, both published 2 weeks apart and across multiple sites, that use that name. I'm really sorry, man, but your conviction that it's an error is quite simply unfounded. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:35, January 4, 2024 (EST)

I know this is a bit off-topic, but the Ptooie thing isn't necessarily a mistake. Not entirely, at least. According to [https://twitter.com/RipBlue_hime/status/1633675352655659008 this tweet], the internal name for the plant's model refers to it as a Stalking Piranha Plant (''TekutekuPackun''), so that's probably why the tweet called them that. Besides, according to the article, they "do not blow any items in Time Trials or when the item settings are not set on Normal Items", and Ptooie's main gimmick is blowing on things, not walking (not all of them even walk), unlike Stalking Piranha Plant. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 17:23, January 4, 2024 (EST)

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 ::And yet, "spiders" and "Spiny Shells" being perceived as errors is subjective and unencyclopedic. A fan liberty. People in this proposal are using that line of thinking to argue against the highest-priority official sources that exist for these works, [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/60#Remove_.22Koopa.22_and_other_name_particles_from_Koopaling_article_titles|but that is par for the course on Super Mario Wiki]]. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 16:59, January 4, 2024 (EST)
 :::If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has consistently been established by reliable sources as being, in fact, a duck, then there's nothing subjective or unencyclopedic about continuing to call it a duck just because a less reliable source mistakenly called it a goose on a certain occasion. I'm all for correcting mistakes ''if'' the greater context of material from the franchise as a whole makes it clear that it actually is a mistake. That's all I have to say on the matter. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:27, January 4, 2024 (EST)
-::::"I'm all for correcting mistakes ''if'' the greater context of material from the franchise as a whole makes it clear that it actually is a mistake." '''It doesn't.''' Name changes can happen on a whim and can even be isolated cases. That does not make them errors. The movie doesn't call them anything, but there are 2 (two) different social media posts, both published 2 weeks apart and across multiple sites, that use that name. I'm really sorry, man, but your conviction that it's an error is quite simply unfounded. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:35, January 4, 2024 (EST)
+::::"I'm all for correcting mistakes ''if'' the greater context of material from the franchise as a whole makes it clear that it actually is a mistake." '''It doesn't.''' [[Piranha Plant#Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door|Name changes can happen on a whim and can even be isolated cases.]] That does not make them errors. The movie doesn't call them anything, but there are 2 (two) different social media posts, both published 2 weeks apart and across multiple sites, that use that name. I'm really sorry, man, but your conviction that it's an error is quite simply unfounded. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:35, January 4, 2024 (EST)
 I know this is a bit off-topic, but the Ptooie thing isn't necessarily a mistake. Not entirely, at least. According to [https://twitter.com/RipBlue_hime/status/1633675352655659008 this tweet], the internal name for the plant's model refers to it as a Stalking Piranha Plant (''TekutekuPackun''), so that's probably why the tweet called them that. Besides, according to the article, they "do not blow any items in Time Trials or when the item settings are not set on Normal Items", and Ptooie's main gimmick is blowing on things, not walking (not all of them even walk), unlike Stalking Piranha Plant. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 17:23, January 4, 2024 (EST)