MarioWiki:Proposals talk archive 1: Difference between revisions

== Complete Rehaul ==

Expect a complete rehaul of this page and archives WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS by me – sub-pages of this & archive page. It's next on my to-do list after a couple of new MarioWiki pages. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 20:59, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

:No way, that would make things hard to find if you make a sub-page for every proposal or category. {{User:Plumber/Pignature}} 23:29, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

== Question ==

I made the "It's not just america" section,and I want to know, did I set it out right? And about the deadline, is it just the time the section was made plus "EDT"? I don't understand that part... [[User:Davidk92|Davidk92]]

== More rules ==

I believe we need two more rules for the proposals page. First, something that appears to be pretty obvious to me but the guidelines don't mention it yet: Every vote must be signed in order to count. (Currently, there's an unsigned vote by Fly Guy 2 on the proposal about Bob Hoskin's quote - I'm not suggesting the rule so his vote will be removed, I'm suggesting it to prevent this in future.) Second, there should be a deadline after which it won't be allowed anymore to edit the wording of a proposal - say, 3 days before the actual deadline. This is to prevent that users who don't visit the wiki very often have no chance to change their minds when a proposal's subject is modified (or when there are new voting options added - yeah, the Bob Hoskins proposal inspired me to that too :P). What do you think about this? Or should I start a proposal about it? ;) {{User:Time Q/sig}} 14:50, 9 February 2008 (EST)

:Signing your votes sorta seems like one of those "well duh" things and I just assumed it was already a bonafied rule... But if it's not we should ''definitely'' make it one. But maybe we should be a bit less lenient about editing the proposal. Things like fixing grammar are fine, but if anyone wants to actually ''change'' the proposal they should just pitch the idea in the Comments section, and if anyone agrees with that change they can just vote Yes but also say something like "as long as User's idea is enacted." That way, the people who voted for the original proposal and never came back are still voting for the same thing (since it's always possible they only agree with the original idea, and not the updated one - it's like twisting someone's words and meaning, it's just not right). Also, if it's a major enough change, another section can always be added; if any of the original votes say something like "yes we can remove the quote, but I'd rather it be censored with f---" (to use a recent example) then whoever is mediating the proposal (or someone else) can move that vote accordingly (but keep the wording the same so you can tell where it originally was from). Long story short, I think saying "no more rewrites, period" or "only in the first 48 hours" is better than "not during the last 3 days". - {{User:Walkazo/sig}}

== Problem ==

Am I the only one who gets an error when trying to view this page? Everytime I try to view it, a problem occurs, closing the page, and stopping me from viewing it. I'm not sure if anyone else has this problem, but its prooving fairly difficult for me to argue a Proposal. If the problem isn't just my Computer, then, can someone please try to figure out what is wrong with this page, and fix it. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

:It works for me. Clear your browser's cache (Ctrl+Shift+Del for Mozilla) and then try to load it again. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:28, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

== Making them? ==

How do I do it?

{{unsigned|Nintendofan146}}

== Another Error... ==

Huh? The page keeps giving my Computer an error everytime I try to load it... AGAIN! I checked the file history, and browsed through all edits in the last three days, and it didn't mess up until [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&oldid=376456 this edit]. Strangely, when I skipped that edit, and moved on to the [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&oldid=376457 following edit], it was working fine, til' I attempted to view [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&oldid=376470 Time Q's following edit], in which it bugged up again... Uh, that sounded kinda stupid. But it's true. I think it has something to do with PY's sig, but I'm not sure. Can anyone give me an explanation or a solution? :\ {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

:All the pages you linked to worked for me. The problem must be on your end. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 10:42, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

== Article Moves ==

I was wondering if a proposal could be made to move an article (for example, [[Cyan Yoshi]] to "Light Blue Yoshi")?  If so, which section of the page would it go under? {{User|Stumpers}}

:I don't think an actual proposal is needed for this. Why not make a "pseudo-proposal" on the Cyan Yoshi [[Talk:Cyan Yoshi|talk page]]? If there's no agreement, it can still be made an "official" proposal. (I would put it in the "Changes" section.) {{User:Time Q/sig}} 18:30, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

==new proposal==

how do make one? can I have a step by step dont wanna get it wrong... {{unsigned|Lu-igi board}}

:It's easiest to simply copy another proposal, and replace it with your text. So, go to the [[MarioWiki:Proposals|Proposals]] page, click "edit", and choose a proposal to copy. Select the appropriate section (depends on what your proposal is about: Splits & Merges, Changes, Removals, etc.) and paste it there (if there already is a proposal in the section, paste it below). Now, change the header and the actual proposal text, and be sure to replace the Proposer and Deadline lines. How to add the correct deadline is explained at the top of the Proposals page. Remove the Support, Oppose and Comments sections, leaving just the headers, and then it's done, I think. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:03, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

== Signature Tech Issue? ==

Can someone tell me what exactly is wrong with putting sig templates on this page? They worked completely fine at the beginning. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 14:02, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

:Some sigs mess up the numbering of lists. Which is why I'm trying to make people use the user template on FA nomination articles as well. {{User:Garlic Man/sig}}

==Per votes==

This is something that's been bugging me for a while now. Many votes are simply "Per X" and nothing more. While I don't know how all this "per" nonsense got started, it needs to stop, at least with those users whose vote consists of "Per X". It doesn't add anything and only serves to provide one more vote to overcome when actual '''reasons''' could be given instead.

== Proposal deletes ==

Why was the super mario wiki in various languages proposal deleted? {{User:Tucayo/sig}}

:Only [[User:Porplemontage|Steve]] (the founder) can make that sort of monumental decision for the Wiki; it's not up to us. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:22, 15 November 2008 (EST)

== Ending Coding ==

How does the code '''& n b s p ;''' (without the spaces between the characters) work? It was on the bottom of the page for the longest time, and got accidentally removed a couple months ago without being missed. Today I noticed that the new proposal's "Comments" header wasn't working: it showed up as a proper header in the preview, but once I saved, it appeared as <nowiki>====Comments====</nowiki> on the main page (though it acted like a normal header in that it didn't appear as part of the "Oppose" sub-header when it was edited). Once I put the code back on the bottom of page, it worked fine. What gives? Is it just to give the bottom section some sort of content so the header works? Also, why doesn't <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> work on it? - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 21:18, 1 February 2009 (EST)

:Aw, crap, I put my comment in that section... Should I put it above the little slippery code or below it? And I'm also curious about Walkazo's question... {{User:Bloc Partier/sig}}

==Y WOZ MY PROPASAL DELETED???!!!==

?  [[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]] 10:17, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

== Remove Tucayo's Vote from "Change 60-Day Rule to One Month" Proposal ==

<strike>''"The last proposal wasnt more than 60 days ago, so it cant be reversed"''</strike>

::<s>'''This is the reason for Tucayo's vote. But it has been proven wrong. Here is a quote from the comments section directed towards another user who had the same thoughts as Tucayo.'''</s>

== New Rule ==

The new rule is: "If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental (harmful) to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time." It may sound tyrannical at first, but it is only meant as a ''last resort'' to stop proposals the Sysops feel would not be beneficial to the Wiki should they pass. If a problematic proposal appears, we'll take it to the Sysop boards on the [https://www.marioboards.com/index.php MarioWiki Forum] and discuss it amongst ourselves. In order to give the community a chance to speak for itself, we will not veto a proposal until there is no hope of it failing through the normal voting procedure. This, of course, only applies to ''valid'' proposals: anything in violation of the Wiki's rules and regulations can be deleted by any Sysop at any time. Vetoing proposals requires the approval of the majority of the Sysops; however, the way the Sysops are voting here on the Proposals page should not be read as an indication of what we may be deciding behind the scenes on the Forums. In no way do the Sysops' votes hold more sway than those of regular users. Again, this rule is a last resort only, and we sincerely hope we will never have to use it. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:03, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

==Slight confusion==

Ok, I have a question about the most recent archived proposal, the one about splitting the SMA articles. So, from what I've heard in the comments of this proposal, we are going to create 9 new articles, including the three GBA remakes of the DKC games. However, that does not make sense, as the proposer only proposed to split the SMA articles:

== No Banjo and Conker ==

You know about Banjo & Conker, people especially me don't feel like Banjo and Conker should have a place on a Mario Wiki. They are not recurring characters like [[Donkey Kong]], [[Yoshi]] and [[Wario]]. They had only one appearance in a Mario game. [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] who is the mascot of [[Nintendo]]'s former rival [[Sega]] had more appearances in a Mario game than Banjo and Conker. Sonic competed in the Beijing and Vancouver Olympics and [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]. He also made cameos when Nintendo was trying to humiliate Sega. The characters from [[Super Smash Bros.]] for the N64 have made appearances in all 3 [[Super Smash Bros. series]] games, making more appearances then Banjo and Conker. Super Mario Wiki should not cover Banjo and Conker since their relation to Mario are very small. Since they are owned by Microsoft, who is competing with Nintendo, it is unlikely that they will ever appear again in a Mario game. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 21:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

:See [[MarioWiki:Coverage]]. {{User:BluePikminKong497/sig}} 21:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== New proposal ==

Hi, this is my first time suggesting a proposal, so forgive me if I screw something up.

== New Proposal ==

You know, in [[Talk:Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr./Mario Bros.]], me and some other people were discussing about deleting the article [[Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr./Mario Bros.]] because we felt like we didn't have to make compilation articles on the wiki. Should this be a proposal, or not a proposal. If you say yes, I will add the {{tem|Delete}} template on [[Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr./Mario Bros.]] because I already added the {{tem|delete-request}} template on it.

==Proposals==

I think we should merge Cassanova Koopa with Luigi. Because he is just Luigi in disguise. Just like how Kootie Pie's human form should be in Wendy's page.{{Unsigned|Tails777}}

== New Talk Page Proposal ==

Hey guys. I have a talk page proposal. Here is the summary. I am not putting it on the proposal's page yet, but if it has to be moved, I will move it there.

== Template:Media for .OGV and .OGA files? ==

Shall we do a Template:Media just for .OGV and .OGA files? It would be useful for users who upload .OGV and .OGA files and not only .OGG files. [[File:Boomerangmariodance.png]]<span style="color:#00c">'''''[[User:Danimario9|dani]][[User talk:Danimario9|mario]][[Special:Contributions/Danimario9|9]]'''''</span>[[File:Boomerangmariodance.png]]  16:32, 12 January 2012 (EST)

== fake templates ==

i propose that fake templates be allowed, its just people being funny, not a violation. {{User:CatJedi/sig}}

:This is not how you propose a proposal. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 18:55, 8 May 2012 (EDT)

== Proposal Archives ==

Sometimes, I have trouble referring for certain proposals in the archive because, in short of guesswork, they are difficult to find. Do you think it's a good idea to reorganize the archive page? Maybe we can reorganize the main archive page by subpages such as MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/Changes, MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/Removals, and MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/New Features. The more recently archived proposals can go by subsections until they are moved to the subpages. I don't like alphabetically because your recall of the proposal may be inaccurate (is it "delete" or "remove"?), so that's more guesswork. I'm open to suggestions, but I think the way we store archives needs a little work.<br>

{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 20:08, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

== Proposals ==

Just wondering, why isn't the text above the list of proposals (that shows the rules and instructions) a separate template? --{{User:Mariotime11/sig}} 18:40, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

== Really old proposals ==

Hey, I've noticed that all proposals on June 23 haven't yet been archived. Could someone please do something about them? <font face="Stencil">{{color-link|User:Stonehill|#5f9ea0|STONE-HILL!!!}}</font> _{'''''[[User talk:Stonehill|At last, the rock fell.]]'''''}

  09:17, 24 June 2014 (EDT)

== Why is this in the Doctors category? ==

[[User:Toadbrigade5|Toadbrigade5]] ([[User talk:Toadbrigade5|talk]]) 23:13, 8 November 2014 (EST)

:Formatting. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}

== Replacing Deadline with "Passed" ==

When proposals are decided, we are supposed to currently replace the deadline with "passed." However, the word "passed" seems to falsely imply that the proposal has been successful and gotten more supportive votes, when it may in fact have not. I think we should have a slight rule change and replace the word "passed" with something less confusing, such as "Passed/Failed" or "Decided." [[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 18:58, 13 January 2015 (EST)

== Why can you only extend proposals up the three times? ==

If the proposal is still tied after 4-5 weeks, apparently it automatically fails (rule 11). However, I honestly feel like this cheats the proposer. Why would you every want to a proposal that is being heavily debated on? The only reason this rule should ever be implemented is that if there is a complete lack of voters. Maybe we could change the rule instead to "if a proposal has been extended three times and has 5 votes or less, then it automatically fails." [[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 14:07, 18 January 2015 (EST)

:If it's going on and on and on like that, there's clearly something wrong with the idea, and it'd be in the proposer's best interest (and the wiki's too, seeing as the community's clearly divided on the issue) is to go back and retool and relaunch the proposal in a new version more palatable to a larger chunk of the voters. Plus, it ensures things actually happen, instead of just getting deadlocked forever. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 14:31, 18 January 2015 (EST)

== Non-Mario Content ==

I am fully confident that it would be highly beneficial to allow a limited amount of non-Mario content to exist on this website. Please leave your opinions below; I have spoken to my many contacts and they are mostly in agreement that my proposal is an extremely wise one.

--[[User:I love selfies|I love selfies]] ([[User talk:I love selfies|talk]]) 19:24, 21 March 2015 (EDT)

==I am new to this, I want to make sure I am in the correct place==

Hello, I am planning on making a proposal. However, I am very inexperienced and have never made one. I wanted to know exactly where I make my proposal. I am also worried about a simple typo making my whole proposal go out of whack. I have read the rules over many times but I still would like a step by step help from anyone to make sure I do not make a mistake. If anyone could help me that would be great. {{user|Thenintendostooge}} 11:50 June 7, 2015

== New voting system ==

Is there any way to change the voting system? I made a proposal about this, but deleted it about 20 mins later after realizing a better way to do it. I was thinking about two sections- one for supportive reasons, and one for against reasons. After the set deadline, a team of users officially in the 'Proposal' team would decide the verdict.  

== Anyone can comment on proposals whether logged-in or not... ==

Seeing as this page is semi-protected, we should either unprotect this or reword Rule 2. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 14:24, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

:I think we should unprotect it since the only IP who vandalized was a spambutt or something that removed content from pages and undid it. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:53, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

== Weird vote result cases ==

according to the proposal rules, 3-0 proposals fail while 3-1 and 3-2 proposals pass even though the ones that pass in this case have more oppose votes than the ones that fail while having the same number of support votes.  I think a special case exception should be put into place here.

== SMW 2 ==

I am sorry but Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island is a Mario game too. Shigeru said so in an interview. Its labeled with a '2' in the game's title. Mario is in the game as a focal point of it.

== Conjecturaltext headers ==

Re: [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/44#Prohibit_the_Usage_of_.7B.7Bconjecturaltext.7D.7D_in_Headers|This passed proposal]]