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::As far as I know, last time Nintendo made an article about something reminiscent of biological affiliation was on {{media link|PEGMCE page 193.png|page 193}} of the ''[[Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia|Perfect Ban Mario Character Daijiten/Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia]]'', like 24 years ago. From what I've seen, the best we'll ever get now is that the member of the Turtle Tribe are turtles, that [[Glydon]] is similar to flying lizards, that [[Draggadon]] is a dragon, that [[Plessie]] is a dinosaur and so on... so it makes sense to associate from a design point of view, specifying the nature of the association. In the case of SSB4 we can just report the text and the affiliation as is, the problem is that the original text was improperly translated (or maybe they went with the PAL terms, because [https://youtu.be/v4NGYp02Z6Y?t=1110 in Italy ''Koopas'' are the ''Koopa Troopas''], while Bowser Jr. is sometimes rather described [https://i.imgur.com/W8KeMAy.jpg as a little turtle even in made-up parts]). It's obvious that Koopa Troopas are based on the previous Shellcreepers due to their shared behavior and design, but most other members of the Turtle Tribe pretty much only share being turtles from a design point of view.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 07:47, 13 March 2018 (EDT)
::As far as I know, last time Nintendo made an article about something reminiscent of biological affiliation was on {{media link|PEGMCE page 193.png|page 193}} of the ''[[Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia|Perfect Ban Mario Character Daijiten/Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia]]'', like 24 years ago. From what I've seen, the best we'll ever get now is that the member of the Turtle Tribe are turtles, that [[Glydon]] is similar to flying lizards, that [[Draggadon]] is a dragon, that [[Plessie]] is a dinosaur and so on... so it makes sense to associate from a design point of view, specifying the nature of the association. In the case of SSB4 we can just report the text and the affiliation as is, the problem is that the original text was improperly translated (or maybe they went with the PAL terms, because [https://youtu.be/v4NGYp02Z6Y?t=1110 in Italy ''Koopas'' are the ''Koopa Troopas''], while Bowser Jr. is sometimes rather described [https://i.imgur.com/W8KeMAy.jpg as a little turtle even in made-up parts]). It's obvious that Koopa Troopas are based on the previous Shellcreepers due to their shared behavior and design, but most other members of the Turtle Tribe pretty much only share being turtles from a design point of view.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 07:47, 13 March 2018 (EDT)


== Simplify terminology to take into account different enemies that are actually of the same speceis ==
== Simplify terminology to take into account different enemies that are actually of the same species ==


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::Wouldn't it take an insane amount of work to rename all of these? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 22:43, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
::Wouldn't it take an insane amount of work to rename all of these? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 22:43, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
:::For the renamed paramters, we just rename the displayed text for now, the names of the parameters are kept as-is - renaming the parameteres would be a nice long-term goal, but it must be seen if a bot can do such work, in the meantime changing the displayed text is fast and addresses the relevant point of shifting the focus from the species, better fitting the current usage of the template.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:19, August 3, 2019 (EDT)