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With the recent release of ''Fortune Street'', I was wondering if Peach's artwork for the character infobox should be changed. There are two options that I can think of, which are the most suitable for the job. | With the recent release of ''Fortune Street'', I was wondering if Peach's artwork for the character infobox should be changed. There are two options that I can think of, which are the most suitable for the job. | ||
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:Wiki policy is to always use art from the most recent game assuming it's standard (i.e. no game-specific items or art quirks) and adequately displays the character. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:22, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | :Wiki policy is to always use art from the most recent game assuming it's standard (i.e. no game-specific items or art quirks) and adequately displays the character. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:22, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::Is that written anywhere? I don't see how it's a hard and fast rule especially as Nintendo have only recently been updating 3D renders of their major Mario characters. We have evidence to suggest Daisy's MKT artwork wasn't intended to be ''just'' used for MKT as it appeared in Mario & Sonic very shortly after. Rosalina's Mario Party Top 100 art showed up in her amiibo beforehand. I think stock 3D art should take priority unless Nintendo updates their renderer, as it's intended to represent the character in a standard fashion.--[[User:Memoryman3| memoryman3]] ([[User talk:Memoryman3|talk]]) 20:32, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | ::Is that written anywhere? I don't see how it's a hard and fast rule especially as Nintendo have only recently been updating 3D renders of their major Mario characters. We have evidence to suggest Daisy's MKT artwork wasn't intended to be ''just'' used for MKT as it appeared in Mario & Sonic very shortly after. Rosalina's Mario Party Top 100 art showed up in her amiibo beforehand. I think stock 3D art should take priority unless Nintendo updates their renderer, as it's intended to represent the character in a standard fashion.--[[User:Memoryman3| memoryman3]] ([[User talk:Memoryman3|talk]]) 20:32, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:::[[Template:Character | :::[[Template:Character infobox|That rule about the image is written here]]. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 20:34, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::: I see. Maybe we should revise that policy to 'ideally - use the character's main 3D pose, unless there is a more suitable pose (i.e - newer artwork that uses updated render techniques that make it of a considerably higher quality)'. Isn't that the reason why we recommend using the newest game? --[[User:Memoryman3| memoryman3]] ([[User talk:Memoryman3|talk]]) 20:38, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | ::: I see. Maybe we should revise that policy to 'ideally - use the character's main 3D pose, unless there is a more suitable pose (i.e - newer artwork that uses updated render techniques that make it of a considerably higher quality)'. Isn't that the reason why we recommend using the newest game? --[[User:Memoryman3| memoryman3]] ([[User talk:Memoryman3|talk]]) 20:38, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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Yes, game artwork takes priority. While I don't have anything against using an unassigned artwork that clearly shows the subject, that should be discussed first before changing it. As for the example being used, eh, maybe not. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:57, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | Yes, game artwork takes priority. While I don't have anything against using an unassigned artwork that clearly shows the subject, that should be discussed first before changing it. As for the example being used, eh, maybe not. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:57, April 17, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== Alternate outfits == | |||
See [[MarioWiki:Good_writing#Fan_worship]] | |||
That section needs an entire rewrite. I tried to remove all irrelevant outfits but found out that the entire section is treated like a comprehensive detailing of every outfit she wore that's not a dress. It's making me slightly uncomfortable especially when MarioWiki talks in weird detail. We should keep it focused to just recurring outfits, such as her sports outfits and her bike outfit (and WITHOUT the offputting detail), and then make mention that she does dress up for the occasion in Super Mario Odyssey and maybe talk about how powerups change her appearance. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:05, October 21, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:Rewrote the section. This article still has a long way to go regarding general appearance. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:17, October 21, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Is Princess Peach already married? == | |||
I've come across a certain website which shows a very old Mario manga from the 80s where Peach married a prince named Andre. I went on investigating this and I found out the book was published by Keibunsha Books, but since my Japanese is not even basic, I couldn't understand much. Is she really married? | |||
https://archive.org/details/supermariogaiden2gamebook - This is the gamebook/manga I've mentioned: Super Mario Bros Gaiden 2. | |||
Besides, here's the link where I got the news - https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2020/09/22/princess-peach-from-super-mario-could-be-married-to-someone-other-than-mario | |||
As you all can see in the first link, it was written by Rikio Harada and Shina Tachibana, published by Keibunsha Books and licensed by Nintendo. | |||
How can we interpret this information? What do you guys think? Is it true? | |||
[[User:NihilistLuma|NihilistLuma]] ([[User talk:NihilistLuma|talk]]) 13:56, May 8, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:I wouldn't be surprised. We've covered only a tiny amount of licensed media coming from Japan. Nintendo's Japanese branch is extremely lax in what they allow third-party publishers to do with their characters. An article about this game book can be created because it is [[MarioWiki:Coverage|officially licensed]]. You can read the rules (or lack thereof) on [[MarioWiki:Canonicity|canonicity]]. Ultimately, it is of no importance. After all, Peach has been canonically engaged to another prince and also has been canonically dead too.--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 14:29, May 8, 2023 (EDT) | |||
What?! Peach has been canonically dead? That surprised me more than her "marriage" with Prince Andre. Well I'm trying to find information on the author, Rikio Harada, but there's nothing about him. I'm trying to understand if Keibunsha is just a small library in Japan or some big book company... [[User:NihilistLuma|NihilistLuma]] ([[User talk:NihilistLuma|talk]]) 15:26, May 8, 2023 (EDT) | |||
I was trying to translate with the phone camera the pages of this book and I found out Crunchyroll was sensationalist. It seems, and I hope someone fluent in Japanese confirms it to me, that Mario was hired to escort Princess Peach and Prince Andrew until their wedding was over. then Peach gets kidnapped. In the end, Peach and Andrew reunite, but they do not marry. The ceremony doesn't happen, it is not shown, neither in written form nor drawn form. Maybe someone could take a look. [[User:NihilistLuma|NihilistLuma]] ([[User talk:NihilistLuma|talk]]) 16:09, May 8, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Nurse Toadstool probably needs a separate page again == | |||
The [[Super Mario (Kodansha manga)]] has shown her separate from Peach, in the same vein Dr. Mario is his own character separate from Mario. Anyway, uh [[Talk:Nurse Toadstool]] is giving me memories... {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:24, May 19, 2023 (EDT) | |||
I agree with you. I was on the Mushroom Kingdom Hospital page and clicked on the Nurse Toadstool link and it lead me to the Princess Peach page. | |||
-Spring_Luigi | |||