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→‎Rename to "small bird": not a big deal if we just go on with this proposal, but we could indeed make a coverage proposal afterwards, in the meantime Doc could have a look at the material we have
(→‎Rename to "small bird": not a big deal if we just go on with this proposal, but we could indeed make a coverage proposal afterwards, in the meantime Doc could have a look at the material we have)
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::::I mean, I would be fine with dropping this proposal if you feel this is the wider discussion we should have first. I can see the benefit of having dedicated articles for each small bird. I am sorry if it seemed like I was trying to Trojan horse this proposal - the way the page was already written and the way its [[Gallery:Little bird|gallery]] page was laid out left me under the impression that this article was already written with other small birds in mind. My intent was just to change the name to what I believe the preferred name is in ''Super Mario Odyssey''. — [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 09:21, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
::::I mean, I would be fine with dropping this proposal if you feel this is the wider discussion we should have first. I can see the benefit of having dedicated articles for each small bird. I am sorry if it seemed like I was trying to Trojan horse this proposal - the way the page was already written and the way its [[Gallery:Little bird|gallery]] page was laid out left me under the impression that this article was already written with other small birds in mind. My intent was just to change the name to what I believe the preferred name is in ''Super Mario Odyssey''. — [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 09:21, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
:::::My thoughts on this are still the same as they were 7 years ago: I think that indeed all the small "fly away when approached" (and otherwise generic) birds should be treated as the same subject regardless of design, including the [[Bird (Super Mario Sunshine)|ones from ''Super Mario Sunshine'']]. ''Odyssey'' just clarified that that is the correct decision by giving multiple designs. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 09:27, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
:::::My thoughts on this are still the same as they were 7 years ago: I think that indeed all the small "fly away when approached" (and otherwise generic) birds should be treated as the same subject regardless of design, including the [[Bird (Super Mario Sunshine)|ones from ''Super Mario Sunshine'']]. ''Odyssey'' just clarified that that is the correct decision by giving multiple designs. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 09:27, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
::::::To be fully fair, the behavior of the small birds is still that of the little birds, and the appearance of the little birds continues to be very consistent. They’re a very clear distinguishing element of the modern games. With that being said, we could indeed make a proposal to decide if we want this page to only cover the Mushroom Kingdom little birds or if we want to include the ''Odyssey'' small birds or, as a third choice, include even the ''Sunshine'' birds. In my opinion, it’s not a big deal if we just keep this proposal, in case we’ll make a second proposal afterwards, so in the meantime you might gather some material to see if indeed Nintendo wanted to make a connection between the ''Sunshine'' birds and the ''Odyssey'' small birds - after all Isle Delfino was originally planned for ''Odyssey'' so there might be some leftover material about a possible “bridge” between the two.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 08:22, April 12, 2024 (EDT)