Talk:Ghost: Difference between revisions

== Merge Ghost (''Wario Land II'' enemy), Ghost (''DK'' series), Ghost (''Luigi's Mansion'' series) into a single "Ghost" article ==

Sooooo, funny story. I replied to Arend explaining why I considered the ghosts to be the same "species" as generic ghosts... and in doing so, listed multiple design characteristics that stereotypical ghosts lack, such as yellow eyes, and a variety of colors and shapes. It eventually dawned upon me that it would be extremely difficult to string the ghosts I mention in this proposal into anything resembling cohesive.

#{{User|Arend}} Per all; the ghosts involved in the proposed merger are all very distinct from one another; with the ''Yoshi's Story'' one being green and serpentine in appearance, serving as Baby Bowser's ride in a boss battle; the ''Wario Land II'' one being an uncommon enemy that moves in particular patterns, and can turn Wario into a zombie; the ''DK: King of Swing'' and ''Jungle Climber'' one being another uncommon enemy but can either be a hazard or passed through depending on its opacity, even having a distinct name in the Japanese ''King of Swing''; and the ''Luigi's Mansion'' one being an amalgamation of ''every type of ghost in the series'', which would be odd in general to merge with other ghost types from outside ''Luigi's Mansion'' considering how distinct each ghost in ''Luigi's Mansion'' is. The ''Wario Land'' and ''DK'' ghosts are probably the most similar if we have to merge any of these, considering how both look like the generic white-sheeted ghost with hole faces, and both having angry eyes and pointy ends at the back of their head, but they still act different in the games they're from, and they have different Japanese names, so any visual similarities are most likely coincidental.

#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} This doesn't sit well with me. Per all.

=== Comments ===

:Fair enough about the ''Yoshi's Story'' ghost, though I'd question why to list it with the other ghosts you ''do'' want to merge in the first place when it's irrelevant. You mentioned the ''Wario Land 4'' ghost separately when that one is ''also'' named "yūrei" in Japanese (albeit with different kana). Regardless, you're right, I should've read that more thoroughly.<br>And I wasn't talking exclusively about the "yūrei" and "obake" names when it comes to the WL2 and DK ghosts. As both of us know, the DK ghosts were called "Powan" in the Japanese version of ''King of Swing'', which is a unique name; I thought you'd be aware that I was taking that into account since I ''did'' specifically mention in my vote that the Japanese ''King of Swing'' had a distinct name.<br>As for the ''Luigi's Mansion'' ghosts, I still feel it's weird if we have that merged with the ghosts from other series; whereas the Wario Land II and DK ghosts are separate uncommon enemies from one or two games each, the Luigi's Mansion ghosts cover a variety of subspecies across the whole Luigi's Mansion series: each with somewhat similar appearances, attacks, and ways to defeat them. Yes, they do have aesthetic inconsistencies per game, but it's kinda like that [[Gold Ghost]]s, [[Greenie]]s and [[Goob]]s are as similar to each other as [[Klaptrap]]s, [[Klampon]]s and [[Krimp]]s are. The latter three are definitely Kremlings instead of generic crocodiles, as the former three are Luigi's Mansion ghosts instead of generic ghosts. That's why I feel merging the Luigi's Mansion ghosts with other generic ghosts would be a bit odd to me. {{User:Arend/sig}} 11:58, January 17, 2024 (EST)

::I guess the Kremlings are a fairly close comparison, but I feel like there is a major difference: the Klaptraps, Klampons, etc. are actually called "Kremlings" and not "crocodiles", something that cannot be said about the various "ghosts" in the Luigi's Mansion series. The ghosts have a generic label in Japanese, as well as a non-capitalized, also-generic label in English. If they were named "Spooks" or something like that, I might concur that they were intended to be a unique "species" from standard ghosts. They do appear to have certain design characteristics that other ghosts don't (colorful, having large, glowing eyes, and coming in a wide variety of shapes), but I think that could be chalked up to that just being how ghosts look in the Luigi's Mansion art style. [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 12:17, January 17, 2024 (EST)