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::You mean like how I added that Ludwig had a "German" accent in the Personality and Traits section? -signed [[User:KoopaGuy|KoopaGuy]] [[User talk:KoopaGuy|(<small>Talk</small>)]] a.k.a. [[User:KoopaGuy|ShyTroopa]] or JohnRoberts- 13:21, 1 September 2013 (EDT) | ::You mean like how I added that Ludwig had a "German" accent in the Personality and Traits section? -signed [[User:KoopaGuy|KoopaGuy]] [[User talk:KoopaGuy|(<small>Talk</small>)]] a.k.a. [[User:KoopaGuy|ShyTroopa]] or JohnRoberts- 13:21, 1 September 2013 (EDT) | ||
:::Yes, but perhaps with the audio differences noted in parenthesis after the written quote. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:58, 1 September 2013 (EDT) | :::Yes, but perhaps with the audio differences noted in parenthesis after the written quote. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:58, 1 September 2013 (EDT) | ||
== Something that's been bugging me == | == Something that's been bugging me == | ||
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::I think his or her point is that the name translation box thing says "Ludwig, from the English name". {{User:Misty/sig}} 22:26, 18 June 2014 (EDT) | ::I think his or her point is that the name translation box thing says "Ludwig, from the English name". {{User:Misty/sig}} 22:26, 18 June 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::"English name" is there because that's what he's called in English speaking countries. {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 13:22, 19 June 2014 (EDT) | :::"English name" is there because that's what he's called in English speaking countries. {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 13:22, 19 June 2014 (EDT) | ||
::::I know that... {{User:Misty/sig}} 17:38, 23 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
==Are Ludwig's voice clips in Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. edition actually new?== | |||
There is currently an ongoing edit debate on whether David J. Goldfarb or Mike Vaughn should be indicated as latest portrayal for Ludwig. On the ground of Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition being released later, Mike Vaughn was left as only voice actor for Ludwig. However, his site on imdb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1993995/?ref_=nmexst_exst_nm) doesn't include that game. Since it is based on the New Super Mario Bros. series, could that game be reusing the voice clips from New Super Mario Bros. Wii, like in the case of Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:54, 10 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:Ludwig's voice clips in ''P&D:SMB Edition'' are definitely by Mike Vaughn. However, his imdb page claims his voice clips are also used for ''Mario & Sonic at 2016 Olympics'', while I think one of Ludwig's grunts was reused from ''Mario Kart 8'' where David J. Goldfarb voiced him. Also according to [[Talk:Iggy Koopa#Mike Vaughn don't voicing Iggy in Mario Kart 8|this]], another user got an answer from Vaughn that he didn't voice Iggy in ''MK8'', while claiming that he voiced Ludwig in that game which we know to be false. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 11:40, 18 November 2015 (EST) | |||
I think it's definitely David Goldfarb who voicing Ludwig in the 2016 olympics game. In terms of sources, imbd is definetely not a good one. But Unless confirmation from an sure source, nothing tell us that it's really Mike Vaughn's or David Goldfarb voice clips that has been reused for this game. | |||
It's still unclear concerning this, since the only sounds heard from Ludwig is a grunt. | |||
== Ludwig, leader of the Koopalings? == | |||
I found this on Mario & Luigi Paper Jam boss battle with Larry and Ludwig. Larry speak at Ludwig naming it "boss". I will upload a image that show it. Do this confirm that Ludwig is the leader of the Koopalings?--{{User:LudwigVon/sig}} 11:50, 4 December 2015 (EST) | |||
[[File:M&L-PJ - Ludwig & Larry Boss Battle.PNG|200px|left|]] That's what I want to say.--{{User:LudwigVon/sig}} 11:55, 4 December 2015 (EST) | |||
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:It's also been said he's the self-appointed leader: [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Koopalings&diff=prev&oldid=1917623 the reference was added here] (linking to a YouTube video), although it said the others contested it, whereas by this point, I guess they're going along with it? - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 12:39, 4 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::If I'm not mistaken, in that moment when Ludwig's authority is debated Larry says he's fighting with him by his own free will, not because he's some kind of leader, so he probably still thinks Ludwig has some authority. By the way, before the first battle (that of the screenshot, not that where Ludwig's authority is discussed) begins, Larry calls Ludwig "brother", so this is a direct confirmation that the Koopalings are sibling (the SSB4 trophy was indirect if I remember correctly).[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 14:47, 4 December 2015 (EST) | |||
== The 30th anniversary books' bios of Ludwig von Koopa == | |||
In the same way that I reported the bios of Larry Koopa, here are the bios of Ludwig von Koopa from the 30th anniversary books, including a tentative translation that surely must be revised. Ludwig's name in the books is ルドウィッグ, so as expected, no surname here.<br /> | |||
'''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'''<br /> | |||
Characters' pages bio<br /> | |||
クッパ七人衆のひとり。頭脳派で目立ちたがり。<br /> | |||
''One of the Koopalings. Showoff of his intellect.''<br /> | |||
Super Mario Bros. 3 enemies section<br /> | |||
W7のボス。魔法を放って攻撃してくる。ジャンプのたびに震動を起こす。<br /> | |||
''Boss of world 7. Attacks shooting magic [fireballs]. Causes earthquakes every time he jumps.''<br /> | |||
Super Mario World enemies section<br /> | |||
せんべい山のボス。炎を<span class=explain title="は">吐</span>いたあと、こうらに入って攻撃してくる。<br /> | |||
''Boss of Cracker Mountain. After spitting fire, attacks by retreating in his shell.''<br /> | |||
New Super Mario Bros. Wii enemies section<br /> | |||
W7のボス。<span class=explain title="せま">狭</span>い足場を移動し、4方向に飛ぶ魔法を放ってくる。<br /> | |||
''Boss of World 7. While on a narrow moving platform, he shoots magic [fireballs] in 4 directions.''<br /> | |||
New Super Mario Bros. 2 enemies section<br /> | |||
W5のボス。<span class=explain title="くさり">鎖</span>につかまり、高い場所から魔法攻撃を放ってくる。<br /> | |||
''Boss of World 5. After grabbing a chain, he shoots magic [fireballs] from an high place.''<br /> | |||
New Super Mario Bros. U enemies section<br /> | |||
マシュマロうんかいのボス。3体に分身して攻撃してくる。<br /> | |||
''Boss of Meringue Clouds. He and his avatars attack in three.''<br /> | |||
'''Super Mario Memorial Book'''<br /> | |||
出っ歯のような牙がかわいい。初登場時はジャンプで地震を起こす攻撃を使った。<br /> | |||
''Has a cute protruding fang-like tooth. In his first appearance, he attacked by causing earthquakes with his jumps.''<br /> | |||
Again, there is much work to do, especially regarding the bio, still it's interesting to see that his mountain in Super Mario World is actually called Cracker Mountain. Furthermore, now a pattern starts to appear: in the encyclopedia the bio talks about him and the enemies sections talk about his attacks, while the memorial book goes dental and talks about the first appearance.<br /> | |||
Of course suggestion and corrections are more than welcome!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:10, 12 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:"Showoff of his intellect" sounds kinda awkward to me, I'd ask for better translation. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 09:33, 17 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::It is horrible indeed. 目立ちたがり is show-off, while 派 is "faction, group", 脳 is "brain", and 頭 is "head", so it seems that the bio says that Ludwig is a show-off with regards to intellectual things, that he likes to demonstrate that his intelligence is superior.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 10:51, 17 December 2015 (EST) | |||
== Portrayals in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam == | |||
Who voice Ludwig and Wendy in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam? Because Ludwig and Wendy's page implied it is David J. Goldfarb and Ashley Flannegan, but Mike Vaughn and Lani Minella's page say they voice them in Paper Jam. So, who voice Ludwig and Wendy?--{{User:LudwigVon/sig}} 20:08, 14 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:The Koopalings' voice clips are taken from Mario Kart 8, this is why these two actors are indicated as the voices of Ludwig and Wendy instead of Vaughn and Minella.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:33, 14 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::So, the informations should be add on Goldfarb and Flannegan's page instead of Vaughn and Minella. I will make the change.--{{User:LudwigVon/sig}} 20:37, 14 December 2015 (EST) | |||
== Paper Mario: Color Splash == | |||
Wasn't he confirmed for Color Splash? Can someone add a section for that? I don't know anything about his appearance, only that he was confirmed. [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|Ultimate Mr. L]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|talk]]) 16:21, 7 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
:That's the problem: we only know he will be in, on a warship, but at the moment have very little information. We should focus on Iggy before him, probably.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 16:32, 7 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Oh, so you know about as much as I do. OK, forget I said anything. Thanks. [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|Ultimate Mr. L]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|talk]]) 16:45, 7 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::Well, in the end I needed to start adding the bios from the 30th anniversary books, so I added the Color Splash section as well.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:23, 7 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
==Differences between the Japanese version and the Englsih version of ''Paper Mario: Color Splash''== | |||
Two [https://youtu.be/xKB_FBDVvx0?t=1487 Japanese] [https://youtu.be/fQRKubvt_GI?t=54 videos] showing the battle with Ludwig indicate that some parts mentioned in the ''Personality and traits'' section have apparently been added by the Treehouse team: in particular, all references to classical music don't appear at the beginning of the battle (suggesting that NCL still doesn't consider Ludwig a composer of classical music) and Ludwig is not called ''Your Evilness'' by the Paratroopas. The only confirmed parts appear to be Ludwig designing the Super Ludship and his line at the at the end, after being defeated. These are the two different parts I'm mentioning:<br /> | |||
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BEGINNING OF THE BATTLE<br /> | |||
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さあ、 戦闘開始だ!<br /> | |||
スーパー·ルド号の 高い攻撃性能を<br /> | |||
とくと 味わうがいい!<br /> | |||
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PARATROOPAS' INTRODUCTION<br /> | |||
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…サザ……<br /> | |||
……ガーッ…<br /> | |||
…ラジャー!<br /> | |||
パタバたい 2き、<br /> | |||
ルドごうの ぜんぽう<br /> | |||
じょうくうに とうたっ!<br /> | |||
マリオに<br /> | |||
こうげきを かいしします!<br /> | |||
<br /> | |||
Am I reading this correctly?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:43, 14 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Yes, no reference to "his evilness" there. Also, Ludwig has switched to キミ ''kimi'' as the second person pronoun from オマエ ''omae''. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 04:03, 15 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Cast roll sprite == | |||
You didn't mention in the Physical Appearance section, that his cast roll sprite depict him with the same teeth as Morton. Should i add it? --[[Special:Contributions/77.207.8.120|77.207.8.120]] 12:15, 18 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
:It'd probably fit better in the [[Ludwig von Koopa#Super Mario World|''Super Mario World'']] section, as it already talks about his appearance during the credits there. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:32, 18 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
== Musical reference == | |||
https://youtu.be/wAnsvs8rSRE | |||
I chose this video as a quick reference to what I’m talking about. The quote is at 3:55. Should we add this to the section about his love for music? [[User:PianoKing03|PianoKing03]] ([[User talk:PianoKing03|talk]]) 17:51, 21 January 2019 (EST) | |||
:I did a quick check, and indeed this is [https://youtu.be/cRC-JqMraAM?list=PL8vjcLwBD3aXXMidGvbsJ-qKrCZ1tI5xM&t=1056 yet another musical reference which is absent from the Japanese version], so you can just add it among the other examples that are already there.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:32, 22 January 2019 (EST) | |||
Thanks a bunch! I’m honestly none too good with creating new content...not that I at all mind, but I would say it’d be better if someone else could take care of it. For some reason, I can never get my editor to properly run links and references, so... [[User:PianoKing03|PianoKing03]] ([[User talk:PianoKing03|talk]]) 00:48, 23 January 2019 (EST) | |||
== Ludwig's attack pattern in SMB3 == | |||
''Ludwig shared his attack pattern with Roy; Ludwig could fire projectiles from his magic wand, pound the ground to stun the Mario Bros., and '''retreat in his shell for both defensive and offensive purposes'''. Although all the Koopalings in Super Mario Bros 3 frequently retreated into their shells when stomped on by the Mario Bros. '''Ludwig was the only one of the Koopalings to demonstrate doing so at will''', without having to be hit by the Mario Bros.'' | |||
Is that actually true? I never recalled seeing Ludwig doing this attack pattern in ''Super Mario Bros. 3''. I've been looking over Youtube to look at this, but could never found that attack pattern anywhere. Can someone could confirm it? {{User:Ninja Squid/sig}} | |||
:I definitely remember him tucking into his shell and causing quakes without my even jumping on him when playing the ''Advance 4'' version (in fact, being too far to even get a clean shot at him). It's after the first hit, though before I had a chance to do my second or final blow. [[User:Weedle McHairybug|Weedle McHairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle McHairybug|talk]]) 10:32, May 14, 2020 (EDT) | |||